When embroidering silk on silk?
 

Any one a tip? when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???
mirjam

I wish I knew Mirjam. Maybe we both will learn something here.
when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???

Try to explain what you mean by "slipping". Thread slips out of
needle's eye? Thread slides on the cloth? Threads aren't easily
controlled to make a stitch? What kind of stitch? Every kind?

I've stitched with spun silk but only once tried filament silk and have
none on hand (gave away my supply to someone in need). However, I've
worked with rayon, filament silk in the past, and very slippery grounds.

This comment has come up in the past, and I asked the same question.
However, if my question was answered, I missed it. To answer, more
specific questioning is needed. :-) (How's that for clarity?)

Dianne
BDS2pds wrote:
I wish I knew Mirjam. Maybe we both will learn something here.

when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???

Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:
Any one a tip? when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???
mirjam

But that's part of the charm of the process!

I guess you could iron interfacing to the back of the silk fabric, or
rinse the silk floss in sugar water to make it less silky or both, but I
wouldn't seriously advise either.

Diane Hare

If you are talking about the thread slipping out of the needle, the
only solution I have is to make sure your hands are very smooth. Silk
can find the tiniest of rough patches to catch on.

If you are talking about the fabric slipping in the frame/hoop/stand,
this is why the Japanese literally sew thier fabric into a frame on
the top and bottom, then use the scroll bars on the sides the keep the
material taut as a drum. They have frames of all lengths so that a
10' long peice will actually be mounted onto a 10' frame. Imagine
stitching on a frame that longer than a room is tall!

The best way I know of to hold silk, or any other slippery fabric, in
a hoop or frame is to stitch another rougher fabric onto the edges of
the silk and use that to anchor the peice. I would use a very strong
unbleached broadcloth or polished cotton. Make sure you have washed
the cotton in hot water acouple of times to get it to shrink as much
as possible. This will help prevent the cotton from stretching with
time. You do not want to go so heavy on the cotton that there is a
great disparity between the weights of the silk cloth and the cotton,
but you do need a stong cotton.

hope this helped

On Mon, 10 May 2004 17:34:34 GMT, (Mirjam
Bruck-Cohen) wrote:

Any one a tip? when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???
mirjam

I would say a muslin backing fabric behind the silk ground fabric might
stop the thread from slipping...
Just a thought.
Jeanine in Canada (no expert by any means!)

Diane Hare wrote:
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:

Any one a tip? when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps how do
i stop that ??? mirjam


But that's part of the charm of the process!

I guess you could iron interfacing to the back of the silk fabric, or
rinse the silk floss in sugar water to make it less silky or both, but I
wouldn't seriously advise either.

Diane Hare

Thank you ,,,i could do without that charm ..
as to the sugar water ,,, yeah i can see it increase the Number of
onlookers in exhibitions ,,,,, lines of ants etc coming to taste the
sugar ,,,,,
mirjam
But that's part of the charm of the process!

I guess you could iron interfacing to the back of the silk fabric, or
rinse the silk floss in sugar water to make it less silky or both, but I
wouldn't seriously advise either.

Diane Hare

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
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Any one a tip? when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???
mirjam

Have you tried the soluble stabilizer that Sulky (I think) makes? I used it
to do some surface embroidery on silk gauze for a class project and it
worked quite well. I used the medium weight, drew my design on a piece, and
layered it in my hoop, stabilizer with design, fabric, stabilizer. It was a
little like embroidering on dried Elmer's glue, but when the stabilizer was
disolved, there were no pulls or problems with the design.

I'll have to find my butterfly - on silk gauze - worked in a hoop and
load up the jpg. I didn't need any stabilizer. The organdy was stiff
enough. This is so interesting how we all approach projects and how
different people react to different fibers.

Dianne

Nancy Scott wrote:

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
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Any one a tip? when i embroider silk on silk ,, it slippppppps
how do i stop that ???
mirjam


Have you tried the soluble stabilizer that Sulky (I think) makes? I used it
to do some surface embroidery on silk gauze for a class project and it
worked quite well. I used the medium weight, drew my design on a piece, and
layered it in my hoop, stabilizer with design, fabric, stabilizer. It was a
little like embroidering on dried Elmer's glue, but when the stabilizer was
disolved, there were no pulls or problems with the design.

My issue with silk thread on silk fabric is keeping the needle threaded! I can
keep the tension fine on the fabric but I have to stop stop stop and rethread
the needle all the time.....