@%#(*%&#$#%# Buttericks/McCalls/Vogue and lack of men's patterns

[duh who]

!%$*%*#$(%(% (x)*#%$#%$~!

damn it.

[Irene]

There, there, poor thing. It must be "that time of the month" and
your hormones are acting up, eh?

So when you are feeling yourself again, go ahead and post something
like" anybody got men's patterns in size___ to share?" and you might
actually get somewhere...




"duh who" > wrote in message

> !%$*%*#$(%(% (x)*#%$#%$~!

[Kate Dicey]

duh who wrote:
>
> !%$*%*#$(%(% (x)*#%$#%$~!
>
> damn it.

The Vogue man's suit pattern is good. Try KwikSew - they have some good
men's patterns. Burda also do more men's patterns, but the style may be
a little too 'European' for USA tastes.
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[Penny S]

duh who scrawled in bright red lipstick:
> !%$*%*#$(%(% (x)*#%$#%$~!
>
> damn it.

I feel the same way, and avoid them like the plague. Have you tried a
Kwik-sew yet? They are pretty fool proof.

Penny S

[duh who]

"Irene" > wrote in message
m...
> There, there, poor thing. It must be "that time of the month" and
> your hormones are acting up, eh?

Leave me alone, or I'll type on the top row again. I'm warning you.

>
> So when you are feeling yourself again, go ahead and post something
> like" anybody got men's patterns in size___ to share?" and you might
> actually get somewhere...

anybody got men's patterns in size 42 to share?

Ok, I"m waiting.....still waiting.......still waiting....

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

duh who wrote:
>
> anybody got men's patterns in size 42 to share?
>
> Ok, I"m waiting.....still waiting.......still waiting....

Have you thought of Wild Ginger's Pattern Master Tailor Made?

http://wildginger.com/PRODUCTS/pmdescriptions.htm#tailormade

Melinda the Wild Ginger cheerleader

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[Kate Dicey]

duh who wrote:
>
> "Irene" > wrote in message
> m...
> > There, there, poor thing. It must be "that time of the month" and
> > your hormones are acting up, eh?
>
> Leave me alone, or I'll type on the top row again. I'm warning you.
>
> >
> > So when you are feeling yourself again, go ahead and post something
> > like" anybody got men's patterns in size___ to share?" and you might
> > actually get somewhere...
>
> anybody got men's patterns in size 42 to share?
>
> Ok, I"m waiting.....still waiting.......still waiting....

Is that 42" chest or a European size 42? They are different...

For a 42" chest, yes, several: that's DH's size. I have some nice
outdoors garment patterns (think Polartec) a couple of shirts, a suit
patterns (also useful for sports jackets and slacks), waistcoat
patterns... Just email me and I can send you some pix to chose from.
Yes, I lend my patterns internationally: conditions on application!
Also advice on copying and altering patterns.
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[CW]

That's where it should be anyway.
"duh who" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Leave me alone, or I'll type on the top row again. I'm warning you.
>

[duh who]

"CW" > wrote in message
news:rfDdb.453114$cF.143797@rwcrnsc53...
> That's where it should be anyway.

I'm talking about the top row of the keyboard. Which brings up that other
issue. I notice that everyone here top-posts, i.e. answers other posts by
typing at the top of the page. From my experience with other newsgroups,
this is frowned upon and is very annoying to deal with. So, is the
netiquette different for the sewing groups?

I figured I'd cover my bases here by typing in the middle.

> "duh who" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Leave me alone, or I'll type on the top row again. I'm warning you.
> >
>
>

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

duh who wrote:
>
> I'm talking about the top row of the keyboard. Which brings up that other
> issue. I notice that everyone here top-posts, i.e. answers other posts by
> typing at the top of the page. From my experience with other newsgroups,
> this is frowned upon and is very annoying to deal with. So, is the
> netiquette different for the sewing groups?

The netiquette is different here because we are more tolerant. The
argument about top vs. bottom posting is akin to the argument about
which way to place toilet paper on the roll, with the paper coming off
the top or the bottom. Everybody will always be convinced that their
way is right, and really unless you have particular circumstances (in
our case a cat who bats at the roll) there really is no one right answer.

Melinda, who does both depending on how much she is quoting and how much
she is writing

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[CW]

I doubt anyone here has thought about it. They just do what makes sense. I
top post in any newsgroup and will continue to do so.
"duh who" > wrote in message
...
>
> "CW" > wrote in message
> news:rfDdb.453114$cF.143797@rwcrnsc53...
> > That's where it should be anyway.
>
> I'm talking about the top row of the keyboard. Which brings up that other
> issue. I notice that everyone here top-posts, i.e. answers other posts by
> typing at the top of the page. From my experience with other newsgroups,
> this is frowned upon and is very annoying to deal with. So, is the
> netiquette different for the sewing groups?
>
> I figured I'd cover my bases here by typing in the middle.
>
> > "duh who" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Leave me alone, or I'll type on the top row again. I'm warning you.
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[CW]

Exactly.


"IMS" > wrote in message
...
If quoting a particularly long post, it's perfectly Ok to top post. Who
wants to scroll down and down, to read a one-sentence reply? That's
more annoying IMHO. .I much prefer reading what people have to say than
worring about if they've posted it in the right place.

[Trishty]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:48:08 GMT, CW wrote:

> I doubt anyone here has thought about it. They just do what makes sense. I
> top post in any newsgroup and will continue to do so.

I think, if memory serves, that the netiquette for alt.sewing (sent to me
by Penny) says you should bottom post. I was top posting till I read this,
but have bottom-posted since, on all groups. You're also meant to snip long
posts, and not to send 'me too' posts, in the interests of reducing
clutter.

Whether people top or bottom post, I'm finding it easier to read since I
switched to 40Tude, because it colour-codes replies. It was much harder in
IE - which top-posts automatically, of course.

:) Trish

[Kate Dicey]

IMS wrote:
>
> If quoting a particularly long post, it's perfectly Ok to top post. Who
> wants to scroll down and down, to read a one-sentence reply? That's
> more annoying IMHO. .I much prefer reading what people have to say than
> worring about if they've posted it in the right place.
>
I try to remember to snip everything except the bit I'm replying to.
Then I post under it, as this is more relevant. On long posts I pop an
intro at the top and then answer each bit as it comes up.

Mostly I snip and bottom post.
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[Joanna]

I post on the top. For people that have a slow connection or pay by the minute
this does make a difference. Also there are lots of posts I don't read because
I get tired of scrolling through twenty message to see the new reply.
Especially if I have all ready been following that thread. Just my two cents,
but as someone else said it is equilvant to the toilet paper issue.
Take Care
Joanna
Remove "quilt" to reply

[Valkyrie]

I almost always post from the top unless I'm making a specific reply to one
part of a post, then I snip and leave just a bit of what I'm replying to and
post under. I figure if you really need to refresh in your mind what a post
is referring to you can always just click up to the post above or first in a
thread. I'm of the "I don't give a rat's patootey which way the toilet paper
winds off the roll as long as it's not an empty tube on the spindle after
I'm enthroned" school of life.

Life Lesson #1; Don't sweat the small stuff
Life Lesson #2; About 98% of it is all small stuff

Val

"Joanna" > wrote in message
...
> I post on the top. For people that have a slow connection or pay by the
minute
> this does make a difference. Also there are lots of posts I don't read
because
> I get tired of scrolling through twenty message to see the new reply.
> Especially if I have all ready been following that thread. Just my two
cents,
> but as someone else said it is equilvant to the toilet paper issue.
> Take Care
> Joanna
> Remove "quilt" to reply
>
>

[Valkyrie]

"Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
...
> Wait a minute!! Do you mean to tell me you can make a man from a pattern??
> Really??
> Do they do housework?

...........and give foot and back/shoulder rubs?

People made from patterns.....I think that may explain my problem, I was cut
not quite on the bias, as Kate's bridesmaid dresses from hell......I'm
starting to twist, sag and do other most unflattering things the longer I
hang in life. In the next life I'm coming back as beautifully lovely yet
sturdy and durable dupioni instead of this cheap poly sh*t!!

Val

[Diana Curtis]

Wait a minute!! Do you mean to tell me you can make a man from a pattern??
Really??
Do they do housework?
Diana, thinking if there isnt, there should be

--
>
> anybody got men's patterns in size 42 to share?
>
> Ok, I"m waiting.....still waiting.......still waiting....
>
>

[duh who]

"Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply" > wrote in
message ...
> duh who wrote:
> >
> > I'm talking about the top row of the keyboard. Which brings up that
other
> > issue. I notice that everyone here top-posts, i.e. answers other posts
by
> > typing at the top of the page. From my experience with other
newsgroups,
> > this is frowned upon and is very annoying to deal with. So, is the
> > netiquette different for the sewing groups?
>
> The netiquette is different here because we are more tolerant. The
> argument about top vs. bottom posting is akin to the argument about
> which way to place toilet paper on the roll, with the paper coming off
> the top or the bottom.

How about leaving the lid up or down? ;-)

[duh who]

"CW" > wrote in message
et...
> I doubt anyone here has thought about it. They just do what makes sense. I
> top post in any newsgroup and will continue to do so.

Well, be that way.

[CW]

Almost right. You edit then post above it.
"duh who" > wrote in message
...
> Well, I guess the whole story is, you go to the trouble of editing out all
> except what you are responding to, and then post below that. That way you
> don't get longer and longer blocks of text uselessly going back and forth
> across the net.
>
> "IMS" > wrote in message
> ...
> If quoting a particularly long post, it's perfectly Ok to top post. Who
> wants to scroll down and down, to read a one-sentence reply? That's
> more annoying IMHO. .I much prefer reading what people have to say than
> worring about if they've posted it in the right place.
>
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:00:35 GMT, "duh who" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"CW" > wrote in message
> >news:rfDdb.453114$cF.143797@rwcrnsc53...
> >> That's where it should be anyway.
> >
> >I'm talking about the top row of the keyboard. Which brings up that
other
> >issue. I notice that everyone here top-posts, i.e. answers other posts
by
> >typing at the top of the page. From my experience with other newsgroups,
> >this is frowned upon and is very annoying to deal with. So, is the
> >netiquette different for the sewing groups?
> >
> >I figured I'd cover my bases here by typing in the middle.
> >
>
>

[duh who]

"Kate Dicey" > wrote in message
...
> IMS wrote:
> >
> > If quoting a particularly long post, it's perfectly Ok to top post. Who
> > wants to scroll down and down, to read a one-sentence reply? That's
> > more annoying IMHO. .I much prefer reading what people have to say than
> > worring about if they've posted it in the right place.
> >
> I try to remember to snip everything except the bit I'm replying to.
> Then I post under it, as this is more relevant. On long posts I pop an
> intro at the top and then answer each bit as it comes up.
>
> Mostly I snip and bottom post.

You da man...or lady...or...well, you know what I mean.

[duh who]

"Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
...
> Wait a minute!! Do you mean to tell me you can make a man from a pattern??
> Really??
> Do they do housework?

Ok, you get only one: a man, or someone to do housework.

Of course, you can always start altering the pattern, but I'd be really
interested in what parts you alter first.

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

duh who wrote:
>
> How about leaving the lid up or down? ;-)

It has to be down here or else the cats play in it and the dogs drink
out of it, and in both cases it leaves the seat massively wet and the
floor sploshed.

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[Diana Curtis]

Maybe your problem isnt that youre polyester but that you are a soft drapey
cotton knit, and someone put you on a hanger in the closet, or worse yet, a
hook. (I know thats a harsh image but it had to be suggested) The nice thing
is that you will continue to get softer and more comfortable the older you
get...
and yes, men from patterns who do foot rubs and back massages and always
take out the garbage... sighhhhh...
Diana

--
http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44
"Valkyrie" > wrote in message
news:1064796450.524532@yasure...
>
> "Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Wait a minute!! Do you mean to tell me you can make a man from a
pattern??
> > Really??
> > Do they do housework?
>
> ..........and give foot and back/shoulder rubs?
>
> People made from patterns.....I think that may explain my problem, I was
cut
> not quite on the bias, as Kate's bridesmaid dresses from hell......I'm
> starting to twist, sag and do other most unflattering things the longer I
> hang in life. In the next life I'm coming back as beautifully lovely yet
> sturdy and durable dupioni instead of this cheap poly sh*t!!
>
> Val
>
>

[CW]

I will.


"duh who" > wrote in message
...
>
> "CW" > wrote in message
> et...
> > I doubt anyone here has thought about it. They just do what makes sense.
I
> > top post in any newsgroup and will continue to do so.
>
> Well, be that way.
>
>

[CW]

No dog but leave it down for the cats. As to the toilet paper, it needs to
unroll from the back to make it cat resistant. One of our cats grabbed the
end of the TP, got up on the counter, walked to the other side and unrolled
about a quarter roll into the sink. It then got into the sink and went to
sleep. Got to have a mattress, you know.


"Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply" > wrote in
message ...
> duh who wrote:
> >
> It has to be down here or else the cats play in it and the dogs drink
> out of it, and in both cases it leaves the seat massively wet and the
> floor sploshed.

[Kate Dicey]

duh who wrote:

> How about leaving the lid up or down? ;-)


I don't care so long as you don't widdle on the seat! Oh, and mop the
floor if you miss!

Hay - dint we juzz to this a while back? ;P
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[Kate Dicey]

CW wrote:
>
> No dog but leave it down for the cats. As to the toilet paper, it needs to
> unroll from the back to make it cat resistant. One of our cats grabbed the
> end of the TP, got up on the counter, walked to the other side and unrolled
> about a quarter roll into the sink. It then got into the sink and went to
> sleep. Got to have a mattress, you know.
>

Never had this problem with the cats. They are way too interested in
sleeping on the nice fluffy fat new duvet with freshly laundered cover!
The cats only ever go in the bathroom if I want to go in!

--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[Kate Dicey]

duh who wrote:

> Of course, you can always start altering the pattern, but I'd be really
> interested in what parts you alter first.


I don't think I've ever made anything EXACTLY according to the pattern!
I use bits from different patterns quite often. I wonder where THAT
would lead me... ;)
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[duh who]

"Kate Dicey" > wrote in message
...
> duh who wrote:
>
> > How about leaving the lid up or down? ;-)
>
>
> I don't care so long as you don't widdle on the seat! Oh, and mop the
> floor if you miss!
>
> Hay - dint we juzz to this a while back? ;P

Other list.

[Diana Curtis]

Well... I am happy with the one I got without a pattern but if I were making
a custom order for next time Id make one that would sew clothing, make
quilts, snip posts appropriately, top post and aim carefully first thing in
the morning.
Diana
--
http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44

"duh who" wrote
> Of course, you can always start altering the pattern, but I'd be really
> interested in what parts you alter first.
>
>

[Diana Curtis]

Id like to come back as a CQ worked vest, full of silk ribbon roses and
fancy fabrics, and very comfy. Right now I am a pair of well worn jeans, a
bit out at the knees and botton hem but still with a lot of life left in
them.
You may be canvas, Kate, but you're still stylin'!
Diana

--
http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44
"Kate Dicey" > wrote in message
...
> I'm planning to come back as a slender, bias cut silk Haute Couture
> thing - fantastically beautiful, veeeeerrrryyyyy expensive and rare!
> This life I seem to be sturdy canvass: sag a bit under strain, but snap
> back if scrubbed!
> --
> Kate XXXXXX
> Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
> http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
> Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[[email protected]]

(Valkyrie)
<People made from patterns.....I think that may explain my problem, I
was cut not quite on the bias, as Kate's bridesmaid dresses from
hell......I'm starting to twist, sag and do other most unflattering
things the longer I hang in life. In the next life I'm coming back as
beautifully lovely yet sturdy and durable dupioni instead of this cheap
poly sh*t!!
---
Stop this this minute!! I've blown coffee out my nose twice, and I'm
already short on beans, with no grocery trip planned today.
Cea <you wouldn't like me on no coffee, I mean it!>

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

Kate Dicey wrote:
>
> Never had this problem with the cats. They are way too interested in
> sleeping on the nice fluffy fat new duvet with freshly laundered cover!
> The cats only ever go in the bathroom if I want to go in!

They used to not go in, but with the kitchen remodel the only place we
could find for the catbox was in the bathtub.

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[duh who]

> Stop this this minute!! I've blown coffee out my nose twice, and I'm
> already short on beans, with no grocery trip planned today.

I knew you were full of beans.

[SewStorm]

>I'm planning to come back as a slender, bias cut silk Haute Couture
>thing - fantastically beautiful, veeeeerrrryyyyy expensive and rare!

Kate, you're already as rare as a fine wine, and don't you forget it!

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

[SewStorm]

>
>It has to be down here or else the cats play in it and the dogs drink
>out of it, and in both cases it leaves the seat massively wet and the
>floor sploshed.

And if there are toddlers in the house, it must be down, or they play in it,
and occasionally fall in. Not a good thing!

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

SewStorm wrote:
>>It has to be down here or else the cats play in it and the dogs drink
>>out of it, and in both cases it leaves the seat massively wet and the
>>floor sploshed.
>
> And if there are toddlers in the house, it must be down, or they play in it,
> and occasionally fall in. Not a good thing!

There are an incrediblyi large number of toddlers who drown in toilet
bowls every year.

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[Byron Kindig]

I just got a pattern from Burda #8452. It is for a man' Jacket. It was very
similar to #8450. It is more complicated than, I have made before. I am
fairly new at sewing and have made a Polar Fleece jacket, several different
shirts, shorts, and a bath robe. It is hard to find men's patterns,
especially from companies that are on sale.
Byron
"duh who" > wrote in message
...
> !%$*%*#$(%(% (x)*#%$#%$~!
>
> damn it.
>
>

[[email protected]]

Re: @%#(*%&#$#%# Buttericks/McCalls/Vogue and lack of men'spatterns

(duh=A0who)
<Cea wrote:=A0=A0
=A0=A0<=A0=A0Stop this this minute!! I've blown coffee out my nose
twice, and I'm already short on beans, with no grocery trip planned
today.
---
<I knew you were full of beans.
---
<<Tsk! Such a mild pejorative, it might be looked at as a compliment.
I've heard much worse. ; )
BTW, there are a couple more alternatives to your pattern dilemma:
haunt the thrift shops--I find more men's patterns there than I find in
the pattern books. Vintage, but with usable details. Deconstruct
clothing and make patterns. Actually, I prefer to copy a pattern without
taking the garment apart.
While you're haunting the thrift shops, check out the men's wear aisle
for styles you want to copy. I have yet to see any upscale re-sale
boutiques for menswear, or I'd recommend searching through their racks.
In my experience, most men wear their timeless suit uniforms for a
minimum of 20 years. Kinda kills the resale value.
For mandarin collars, check the robe and pj patterns--and don't
neglect patterns which are labelled 'Unisex'.
Last, but not least, butter up Sharon. She now has such a lovely
vintage patten stash. :O
Cea

[melinda]

duh who > wrote:

> I'm talking about the top row of the keyboard. Which brings up that other
> issue. I notice that everyone here top-posts, i.e. answers other posts by
> typing at the top of the page. From my experience with other newsgroups,
> this is frowned upon and is very annoying to deal with. So, is the
> netiquette different for the sewing groups?

> I figured I'd cover my bases here by typing in the middle.

I usually bottom-post and snip or put my comments in appropriate spaces
through what I'm replying to.

--
Melinda
<http://cust.idl.com.au/athol>

[joy beeson]

The rule is very simple: you top-post if, and only if, you
quote the entire post.

On Usenet, quoting the entire post is extremely frowned
upon, so top-posting is even more strongly frowned upon,
since top-posting rudely asserts that you are failing to
trim on purpose.

But in the sewing groups, we don't strongly frown, just sigh
and put up with it. Since we seldom get long threads,
top-posting and whole-thread quoting are merely annoying,
and don't make it impossible to communicate.

Besides, our shtick is teaching people how to sew. We leave
lessons in communication technique to other groups.

Joy Beeson
--
http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ -- needlework
http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ -- Writers' Exchange
joy beeson at earthlink dot net

[duh who]

> Besides, our shtick is teaching people how to sew.

New bumpersticker: "Topstitching, not top-posting"

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

duh who wrote:
>>Besides, our shtick is teaching people how to sew.
>
> New bumpersticker: "Topstitching, not top-posting"

How about: "Sew many seams, so little time"?

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[Kathy Morgan]

IMS > wrote:

> If quoting a particularly long post, it's perfectly Ok to top post. Who
> wants to scroll down and down, to read a one-sentence reply?

Ack! No, absolutely not! You should never be quoting an entire long
post unless you're going to be specifically commenting on all parts of
it, in which case the responses should be interleaved. If you're going
to do a one-sentence reply, *cut out* most of the original post leaving
just enough to provide context for your reply. It's better to put your
comment below the quoted material, since English is read top to bottom,
left to right, but if you have edited appropriately and no one is going
to be following up to you it probably doesn't matter a great deal.
--
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[Kathy Morgan]

Joanna > wrote:

> I post on the top. For people that have a slow connection or pay by the minute
> this does make a difference

Yes, it does, because most people who top post do not trim out the
material they're replying to, and this makes the post larger and slower
to download. Failing to trim the quoted material to leave only enough
for context is the real problem.

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<http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/>

[Kate Dicey]

SewStorm wrote:
>
> >I'm planning to come back as a slender, bias cut silk Haute Couture
> >thing - fantastically beautiful, veeeeerrrryyyyy expensive and rare!
>
> Kate, you're already as rare as a fine wine, and don't you forget it!
>
> Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

You sweet lady! Thank you.
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[Kate Dicey]

Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply wrote:
>
> Kate Dicey wrote:
> >
> > Never had this problem with the cats. They are way too interested in
> > sleeping on the nice fluffy fat new duvet with freshly laundered cover!
> > The cats only ever go in the bathroom if I want to go in!
>
> They used to not go in, but with the kitchen remodel the only place we
> could find for the catbox was in the bathtub.

Ours, being well trained to the outdoors, only get a litter box if they
are ill and need to be confined to the house.
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

[Mike Behrent]

Thanks for the tip. I'm new to Usenet. I spend most of my online time
between the web and IRC so I'm not familiar with Usenet conventions
Mike in Wisconsin

"joy beeson" > wrote in message
...
>
> The rule is very simple: you top-post if, and only if, you
> quote the entire post.
>

>
> Joy Beeson
> --
> http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ -- needlework
> http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ -- Writers' Exchange
> joy beeson at earthlink dot net

[duh who]

"Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply" > wrote in
message ...
> duh who wrote:
> >>Besides, our shtick is teaching people how to sew.
> >
> > New bumpersticker: "Topstitching, not top-posting"
>
> How about: "Sew many seams, so little time"?

groan...but good.

I'm going to change my name to "Jack, the Seam Ripper". Oh the horror.

[duh who]

"Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
...
> The rules are changing tho. It was considered rude to top post back in the
> early days... for reasons I cant remember..but now the common sense rules
> say post at the top, post at the bottom, but please remember to trim the
> posts.
> In one group I know top posting is preferred since so many of the readers
> have stiff hands and cant scroll down easily. In other group top posters
are
> mocked and humiliated.
> Diana

Even if you do top-post, leave some space between your comments and the
rest. When I get a dense block of text with includes the poster's message,
and a bunch of gobbledy-gook in the header, both jammed together, its a
pain.

[Diana Curtis]

The rules are changing tho. It was considered rude to top post back in the
early days... for reasons I cant remember..but now the common sense rules
say post at the top, post at the bottom, but please remember to trim the
posts.
In one group I know top posting is preferred since so many of the readers
have stiff hands and cant scroll down easily. In other group top posters are
mocked and humiliated.
Diana

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"Mike Behrent" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the tip. I'm new to Usenet. I spend most of my online time
> between the web and IRC so I'm not familiar with Usenet conventions
> Mike in Wisconsin
>
> "joy beeson" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > The rule is very simple: you top-post if, and only if, you
> > quote the entire post.
> >
>
> >
> > Joy Beeson
> > --
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~joybeeson/ -- needlework
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ -- Writers' Exchange
> > joy beeson at earthlink dot net
>
>

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

Kate Dicey wrote:
>>
>>They used to not go in, but with the kitchen remodel the only place we
>>could find for the catbox was in the bathtub.
>
> Ours, being well trained to the outdoors, only get a litter box if they
> are ill and need to be confined to the house.

We don't "do" outside cats, or ours would be the same.

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

Mike Behrent wrote:
> Thanks for the tip. I'm new to Usenet. I spend most of my online time
> between the web and IRC so I'm not familiar with Usenet conventions

You can also try www.newbie.net and news:news.newusers.questions

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply]

duh who wrote:
>
> I'm going to change my name to "Jack, the Seam Ripper". Oh the horror.

ROTFL!!!!!!!

--
I know God will not give me anything I can't handle.
I just wish that He didn't trust me so much. - Mother Teresa

[duh who]

"Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
...
> Yep, I try to remember but sometimes I rush and leave all that blue
garbage
> sitting there. There should be a name for that ... tailors chalk? Hmmm...
> Oh, and signing ones posts is considered good manners too.. wink, wink,
> nudge, nudge.
> Diana :-)
>

What part of "Duh Who" don't you understand? ;-)

Due to past problems, I"m usually reluctant to reveal my real name on the
web.

You should feel honored I gave in a little bit. ;-)

[Diana Curtis]

Yep, I try to remember but sometimes I rush and leave all that blue garbage
sitting there. There should be a name for that ... tailors chalk? Hmmm...
Oh, and signing ones posts is considered good manners too.. wink, wink,
nudge, nudge.
Diana :-)

--

"duh who" wrote
> Even if you do top-post, leave some space between your comments and the
> rest. When I get a dense block of text with includes the poster's
message,
> and a bunch of gobbledy-gook in the header, both jammed together, its a
> pain.
>
>

[duh who]

"Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
...
> I do. Honest.. I do. (feel honored)
> You could make up a name, I dont know why but I keep looking for more to
> read until I see a name.
> Diana
>

Ok, just for your sentiments here, I'll make up a name for myself.

Corduroyly yours,
Auntie Sipation

[Diana Curtis]

I do. Honest.. I do. (feel honored)
You could make up a name, I dont know why but I keep looking for more to
read until I see a name.
Diana

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"duh who" wrote
>
> What part of "Duh Who" don't you understand? ;-)
>
> Due to past problems, I"m usually reluctant to reveal my real name on the
> web.
>
> You should feel honored I gave in a little bit. ;-)
>
>

[CW]

Appropriate trimming is convenient and should be done but the fact is that
those that do not trim are just as likely to be bottom posters as top. That
is particularly annoying as you have to scroll through all that to get to
the message.

"IMS" > wrote in message
...
Sorry I don't agree. I like to be able to read the entire message
someone is referring to,

[CW]

Apparently the rule is, make up rules as you go.
Very creative.
"joy beeson" > wrote in message
...
>
> The rule is very simple: you top-post if, and only if, you
> quote the entire post.
>

[Diana Curtis]

Bless you.
sniff.. Im touched.. at least thats what my family says..
Thanks Auntie! :-P
Di

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"duh who" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I do. Honest.. I do. (feel honored)
> > You could make up a name, I dont know why but I keep looking for more
to
> > read until I see a name.
> > Diana
> >
>
> Ok, just for your sentiments here, I'll make up a name for myself.
>
> Corduroyly yours,
> Auntie Sipation
>
>

[duh who]

"Diana Curtis" > wrote in message
...
> Bless you.
> sniff.. Im touched.. at least thats what my family says..
> Thanks Auntie! :-P
> Di

I'm from the South. My family says I'm "tetched".

Aunty Sipation

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