what is the American equivalent?

[Penny Lemire]

I'm hoping someone of our Australian correspondents can help
me with a material I've seen specified in some directions,
but can't identify. The directions to make your own pleater
board call for

"Vilene Fusible Badge Backing 1050HF",

and googling this only results in a pointer to hte same site
with the directions.

http://www.ggcreations.com.au/althea/notions/bits/pleat.html

As I'm about to assemble (with help) about 200 pleat front
cummerbunds, this looks like just the tool to help, if we
can get an adequate substitute for whatever his is. My best
guess is a really heavy interfacing, perhaps craft bond, but
if anyone knows for sure I'd be grateful.

Thanks
$.01

[Ron Anderson]

Drop the Vilene in your search and you should get the answers your looking
for. Vilene is a brand name.


--
Ron Anderson
A1 Sewing Machine
PO Box 60
Sand Lake, NY 12153
518-674-8491
http://www.a1sewingmachine.com
"Penny Lemire" > wrote in message
...
> I'm hoping someone of our Australian correspondents can help
> me with a material I've seen specified in some directions,
> but can't identify. The directions to make your own pleater
> board call for
>
> "Vilene Fusible Badge Backing 1050HF",
>
> and googling this only results in a pointer to hte same site
> with the directions.
>
> http://www.ggcreations.com.au/althea/notions/bits/pleat.html
>
> As I'm about to assemble (with help) about 200 pleat front
> cummerbunds, this looks like just the tool to help, if we
> can get an adequate substitute for whatever his is. My best
> guess is a really heavy interfacing, perhaps craft bond, but
> if anyone knows for sure I'd be grateful.
>
> Thanks
> $.01
>

[Irene]

Hi Penny,

What you are looking for is a fusible that is extremely crisp, thin
(not heavy interfacing) and webby. Badge backing is used in sewing
factories to back thinner cotton for machine embroidery, especially
satin stitch used over large areas.

Try a drapery supplier as they might have something very close to the
desired effect, and in large enough pieces to make a pleater form.
Also see if Nancy's Notions or some industrial supplier has a pleating
form already made up.

--Irene




Penny Lemire > wrote in message >...
> I'm hoping someone of our Australian correspondents can help
> me with a material I've seen specified in some directions,
> but can't identify. The directions to make your own pleater
> board call for
>
> "Vilene Fusible Badge Backing 1050HF",
>
> and googling this only results in a pointer to hte same site
> with the directions.
>
> http://www.ggcreations.com.au/althea/notions/bits/pleat.html
>
> As I'm about to assemble (with help) about 200 pleat front
> cummerbunds, this looks like just the tool to help, if we
> can get an adequate substitute for whatever his is. My best
> guess is a really heavy interfacing, perhaps craft bond, but
> if anyone knows for sure I'd be grateful.
>
> Thanks
> $.01

[D&D]

Try contacting Fran at www.fartycrafts.com.au
she did have a mail order business and should have a better idea than me of
what to use.
As Kate said Vilene is a brand name, but Pellon seems to be as well ( I'm
looking at a full page add for them both). Googling Freudenberg should bring
up the manufacturers site.

Sorry I can't help more

Dee in Oz

"Penny Lemire" > wrote in message
...
> I'm hoping someone of our Australian correspondents can help
> me with a material I've seen specified in some directions,
> but can't identify. The directions to make your own pleater
> board call for
>
> "Vilene Fusible Badge Backing 1050HF",
>
> and googling this only results in a pointer to hte same site
> with the directions.
>
> http://www.ggcreations.com.au/althea/notions/bits/pleat.html
>
> As I'm about to assemble (with help) about 200 pleat front
> cummerbunds, this looks like just the tool to help, if we
> can get an adequate substitute for whatever his is. My best
> guess is a really heavy interfacing, perhaps craft bond, but
> if anyone knows for sure I'd be grateful.
>
> Thanks
> $.01
>

[Penny Lemire]

Irene wrote:

> Hi Penny,
>
> What you are looking for is a fusible that is extremely crisp, thin
> (not heavy interfacing) and webby. Badge backing is used in sewing
> factories to back thinner cotton for machine embroidery, especially
> satin stitch used over large areas.
>
> Try a drapery supplier as they might have something very close to the
> desired effect, and in large enough pieces to make a pleater form.
> Also see if Nancy's Notions or some industrial supplier has a pleating
> form already made up.
>

I can buy an existing form, but I'll have to seriously alter
the pleat design, and the thing costs $66, which seems like
a lot to me, especially if I can mak several for a fraction
of the cost.

Thanks for the input all!
$.01

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Re: what is the American equivalent?

(Penny=A0Lemire)
Irene wrote:
<>Try a drapery supplier as they might have something very close to the
desired effect, and in large enough pieces to make a pleater form. Also
see if Nancy's Notions or some industrial supplier has a pleating form
already made up.
---
I can buy an existing form, but I'll have to seriously alter the pleat
design, and the thing costs $66, which seems like a lot to me,
especially if I can mak several for a fraction of the cost.
Thanks for the input all!
$.01
---
Penny, what are you going to use for your pleater form? Inquiring
minds...
Cea

[Cynthia Spilsted]

Fusible badge backing sounds like it could be one of two things: fusible
web (to make the badges iron-on) or double-sided iron-on interfacing which I
have only seen once before, years ago. That would give the 'badge'
stability plus fusibility. It is some kind of fusible interfacing or
webbing. (Perhaps not even double-sided.)
Now for my question: What is a pleater board?
Cynthia
Not Aussie or American - just a plain Canadian!
"Penny Lemire" > wrote in message
...
> I'm hoping someone of our Australian correspondents can help
> me with a material I've seen specified in some directions,
> but can't identify. The directions to make your own pleater
> board call for
>
> "Vilene Fusible Badge Backing 1050HF",
>
> and googling this only results in a pointer to hte same site
> with the directions.
>
> http://www.ggcreations.com.au/althea/notions/bits/pleat.html
>
> As I'm about to assemble (with help) about 200 pleat front
> cummerbunds, this looks like just the tool to help, if we
> can get an adequate substitute for whatever his is. My best
> guess is a really heavy interfacing, perhaps craft bond, but
> if anyone knows for sure I'd be grateful.
>
> Thanks
> $.01
>

[Penny Lemire]

wrote:

>
> Re: what is the American equivalent?
>
> (Penny Lemire)
> Irene wrote:
> <>Try a drapery supplier as they might have something very close to the
> desired effect, and in large enough pieces to make a pleater form. Also
> see if Nancy's Notions or some industrial supplier has a pleating form
> already made up.
> ---
> I can buy an existing form, but I'll have to seriously alter the pleat
> design, and the thing costs $66, which seems like a lot to me,
> especially if I can mak several for a fraction of the cost.
> Thanks for the input all!
> $.01
> ---
> Penny, what are you going to use for your pleater form? Inquiring
> minds...
> Cea
>
Well, I've gotten into the job of running a sewing project
to produce 200+ bow tie and cummerbund sets to "classy up"
our school's performing groups (and make them more
identifiable to parent chaperones at major festivals when we
want to herd our 200 from the 3000 running about...)

The cummerbunds are pleated over the middle section. This,
at least for me, was the really slow part of the assembly
and I'm seeking ways to speed this production, and to make
it as idiot-proof as possible. We have a terrific school
with lots of volunteers willing to help, but I know from
experience that enthusiasm is not the same as skill, or even
a decent substitute.

In truth I've never worked with a pleater board, so I'm only
hoping this will be a time saver. If anyone has used one,
I'd love to hear comments. They sound good, and if I can
whip up one from some of this "badge backing" and some of my
stash, great. If it doesn't work, I'm not out worlds of $$.
If I have to buy one, then we'll do it the slower way.

The slower way I was planning, by the way, is to mark the
lines of fold and "fold to" on the back, pin and machine
baste these tucks together, then iron the crud out of all of
it. Last, pull the basting. The best reasons to avoid this
is the potential for pulls in the satin. It's several steps
as well, and if I can reduce that to time at the ironing
board, that's all the better.

If you know a better way to do this, I'm all ears (or is
that eyes here?)

Thanks
$.01

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Re: what is the American equivalent?/Penny L.

(Penny=A0Lemire)

Well, I've gotten into the job of running a sewing project to produce
200+ bow tie and cummerbund sets to "classy up" our school's performing
groups
<snip>
The slower way I was planning, by the way, is to mark the lines of fold
and "fold to" on the back, pin and machine baste these tucks together,
then iron the crud out of all of it. Last, pull the basting. The best
reasons to avoid this is the potential for pulls in the satin. It's
several steps as well, and if I can reduce that to time at the ironing
board, that's all the better.
If you know a better way to do this, I'm all ears (or is that eyes
here?)
Thanks
$.01
---
I do believe I recall seing instructions for making a DIY pleater in
an older issue of Threads magazine. Might you be able to access it
through Threads online mag.?
Let me know; if you can't access anyhing, I'll dig through my files
and see what I can turn up.
Cea

[SewStorm]

> I do believe I recall seing instructions for making a DIY pleater in
>an older issue of Threads magazine.

Also, Clotilde sells two different sizes of pleaters. They work great, too.
I've actually used mine to make cumberbunds, years ago.


Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

[Penny Lemire]

wrote:

> I do believe I recall seing instructions for making a DIY pleater in
> an older issue of Threads magazine. Might you be able to access it
> through Threads online mag.?
> Let me know; if you can't access anyhing, I'll dig through my files
> and see what I can turn up.
> Cea
>
I haven't found anything - but I may also be doing it wrong.
If you have the article without going to too much pain, I'd
appreciate it, but don't spend a lot of time hunting on my
account! I do lots of the "well try this" sort of project
anyway.

By the way, IK don't know how universal it is, but my local
Joannes has a large classroom area, fully equipped with
tools, including 5 Viking machines, which they are letting
us use free for this project. Next week we will spend 8
hours there (people coming in in shifts as they are
available) starting the cutting and sewing. I found out
about using their classroom by chatting with the employees,
and they said they make it available to "charitable" groups
for the asking.

Thanks so much
$.01

[C Underwood]

Maria's Index of Threads Magazine Articles (
http://www.freespace.net/~marpin/threads.htm#SP ) shows these issues/pages.

Pleating 42-54
Pleats 81-48
Pleats - Cartridge 79-64
Pleats - Open 92-62
Pleats - Skirt 84-20
Pleated Fabric 31-47
Pleated Fabric 46-48
Pleats Twisted 39-32
Pleats in skirt 30-43

I've completed my collection of Threads magazines so will try to look at
these today to see if any of them tell how to make a pleater.

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..·´ Chris
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Washington State, USA
> wrote in message
...

I do believe I recall seing instructions for making a DIY pleater in
an older issue of Threads magazine. Might you be able to access it
through Threads online mag.?
Let me know; if you can't access anyhing, I'll dig through my files
and see what I can turn up.
Cea

[Penny Lemire]

OK all. I finally got to the actual making of the pleater I
neede for this cummerbund project (which now may grow to 250
of the things!!). After much searching and lots of help
from you all, I ended up going with heavy (shirt collar
weight) interfacing in place of the Vilene Fusible Badge
Backing 1050HF.

The first stuuf I bought for stiffening looked interesting,
labled as shirt weight fusible, somewhat spider-webby
looking and very stiff. I neglected to write down the
brand, tho. Texture was nice, but I've NEVER had such a
problem with fusible shrinkage! I did the usual preshrink
steaming, watched it contract what seemed like miles, and
thought, OK, I'm ready to fly. When I tried fusing it to
the cotton face, though, I got about 10% more shrinking,
making for an amazing pebbled surface. I was reminded of
some of the deliberate fabric crinkling techniques I've
seen. NOT what I need for this job, however.

Oncce that was tosssed out, I pulled out my old standby
Pellon Shirt-tailor (I think it's labled). Fused like the
champ it has always been. I spent quite while getting the
pleats just right (one line always wanted to go crooked),
and steamed the life out of it. Adding the back webbing and
face was simple.

This thing looks like it will be a real life saver. I drew
on the cotton alignment points for the cummerbund piece in
two sizes, and tried it out on a handfull of samples. It
takes a bit of patience to get it tucked in, but much less
fuss than marking and aligning. I suspect practice will
improve the speed, too.

Total time to make this was ~45 minutes, including fighting
the rotten interfacing stuff. Total time saved: anybody's
guess. Now that I know how easy it can be, I may just make
myself one for skirts and miscellaneous projects.

Thanks to all of you for all your help.

$.01