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Old August 3rd 07, 12:33 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael

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Old August 3rd 07, 03:50 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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"Michael" wrote in message
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I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael



Both are good, depends on what you want.
If you want a lamp that is pretty and colorful and you don't particularly
care if it looks old and collectible, build a Worden and enjoy the glass
choices and have fun with it.

If you want a very accurate Tiffany reproduction, in pattern, and use glass
that is appropriate to the design and era in which it was originally
conceived, then go for the Odyssey.

Which ever one you chose, use a full round mold, the sectional things are a
PIA to work with, but can be done, just takes more fooling around to get
them accurate and straight.

I have built a few hundred lamps, don't count or keep track in particular,
but have a scrapbook full of pictures.........


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Old August 3rd 07, 04:32 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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"Michael" wrote in message
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I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael




Home shopping network..... 800 pieces of art glass, not the best but not
terrible craftsmanship..... $59.95.... including the base! OUCH...


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Old August 3rd 07, 05:54 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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"Michael" wrote in message
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I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael


Have you already finished that transom window?

Pay attention to what javahut told you about forms. He knows his stuff...


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Old August 3rd 07, 04:56 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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On Aug 2, 4:33 pm, Michael wrote:
I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael


If you decide that you want to use Worden forms and you want the
sectional, then buy enough sectionals to make a 360 degree mold.
Otherwise you can run into a lot of pain trying to get each section to
line up with the next one. Might cost a little more but it'll make
your lamp building a better experience. With the Worden molds you have
the ability to make several different designs on one mold. I prefer
the Odyssey because of the durability but with some care the Worden
molds can be used many times. I think everyone who's doing stained
glass should build at least one Tiffany style lamp.

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Old August 3rd 07, 05:12 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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On Aug 2, 4:33 pm, Michael wrote:
I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael


If you decide that you want to use Worden forms and you want the
sectional, then buy enough sectionals to make a 360 degree mold.
Otherwise you can run into a lot of pain trying to get each section to
line up with the next one. Might cost a little more but it'll make
your lamp building a better experience. With the Worden molds you have
the ability to make several different designs on one mold. I prefer
the Odyssey because of the durability but with some care the Worden
molds can be used many times. I think everyone who's doing stained
glass should build at least one Tiffany style lamp.



What about those Rainbow/Studio Design one piece plastic lamp forms? I
made lots of those in years past.


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Old August 3rd 07, 07:27 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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Default Worden and Odyssey Lamps


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On Aug 2, 4:33 pm, Michael wrote:
I'm wanting to build a Tiffany lamp. I've noticed that Worden and
Odyssey are two of the major players. I would appreciate any feedback
you might have on the quality of the forms and patterns provided by
the two companies.

Michael


If you decide that you want to use Worden forms and you want the
sectional, then buy enough sectionals to make a 360 degree mold.
Otherwise you can run into a lot of pain trying to get each section to
line up with the next one. Might cost a little more but it'll make
your lamp building a better experience. With the Worden molds you have
the ability to make several different designs on one mold. I prefer
the Odyssey because of the durability but with some care the Worden
molds can be used many times. I think everyone who's doing stained
glass should build at least one Tiffany style lamp.



What about those Rainbow/Studio Design one piece plastic lamp forms? I
made lots of those in years past.

Well then, what about the reverse mold that used to come from
Whittemore -Durgin? those made nice lamps too. and were easy to work with,
just had to be careful with the soldering iron.

You can take a shape you like, create it with a stiff material like paper
mache and build on that, use wood if you have a big-azz lathe too. The
possibilities are endless, but the easiest have been mentioned. Why
re-invent the wheel? but then if you are the curious, ambitious type, there
are methods to the madness.....


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Old August 4th 07, 12:10 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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Default Worden and Odyssey Lamps

javahut wrote:

I have built a few hundred lamps, don't count or keep track in
particular, but have a scrapbook full of pictures.........

*************
Wow! That's impressive. Especially considering the major amount of
work that must go into each one.

And thank you for the comparison between Worden and Odyssey. I think
I'll start with a small Worden with a fairly simple design and decide
where to go from there.

Thank you, Michael


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Old August 4th 07, 12:30 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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Default Worden and Odyssey Lamps

Moonraker wrote:

Have you already finished that transom window?

***************
Thank you for asking! The short answer is no. I was over at the
local stained glass store the day after we got back from Florida. I
had to order the white, the red, and the blue. I had enough yellow
and green from way back when. It's going to be about four weeks.
From another glass company in Bloomington I ordered a 2' x 2' plate

for a light box. I was amazed they didn't have it in stock and had to
order it. Be about a week.

I've been killing time putting together some new designs and learning
some of the intricacies of Glass Eye, but I got impatient and decided
I couldn't wait four weeks to make something so I settled on a Glass
Eye example that I can put in one of the glass-paneled cabinet doors
we've got over an island in the kitchen. I came home with the glass
today and tomorrow morning I'm going to try my luck at printing out
the pattern. Wahoo! I'm excited. I've also got to get a small work
bench built to cut and assemble on, but I'll improvise until that's
done.

Thanks, Michael

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Old August 4th 07, 02:09 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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"Michael" wrote in message
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javahut wrote:

I have built a few hundred lamps, don't count or keep track in
particular, but have a scrapbook full of pictures.........

*************
Wow! That's impressive. Especially considering the major amount of
work that must go into each one.

And thank you for the comparison between Worden and Odyssey. I think
I'll start with a small Worden with a fairly simple design and decide
where to go from there.

Something to keep in mind while choosing a pattern, especially the first
one. If the pattern that you chose has so few pieces as to make the pieces
large, "left to right" then you will have to center them to make them go
around the curve/circumference of the lamp, sort of "balance" them on the
curve. There are easier ways to learn than to chose a pattern where you
need to do that. AN example is the 13 in Worden WOODBINE or the Odyssey 16
in Woodbine, a certain balance of the pieces must occur. As a beginning
pattern I would chose something that has more pieces and forego that part of
learning, it is frustrating to tip them all the time instead of
concentrating on your glass and its design.

The important thing of lamp building is to learn and to enjoy the
process...I have yet to build one where I wouldn't do something a little
different to improve the one I just finished, when I do it again.


 




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