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Old April 22nd 04, 07:47 PM
Diego
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Hi Phil:

That plasticine clay would be rather difficult to wedge. I work
with both the ceramic clay and the plasticine clay. You'd have
to get a pretty good chunk of the plasticine and wedge it for about
a half hour. That is unusual to see unmixed specks. That must
be frustrating. The sculpture I do with the plasticine really doesn't
matter if it has inconsistent color. A mold is made of it then cast in
bronze or resin.

An acquantence of mine works for Disney and any claymation they
have done they've order some from kleanklay. He says it's pretty
consistent. I know they use it a lot in forensics and have many different
skin tones.

Good Luck!

Diego


"Phil" wrote in message
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Diego, thanks. I've bookmarked the page and will look into it later.

Earlier today I bought some Van Aken brand Claytoon Clay because I'd
heard a lot of good things about it. So I get it home, tear off a piece
of beige skin color clay, and what do I see? The exact same problem -
red spots all throughout the clay. The white seems to be the same way,
except with blue instead of red.

If I just worked the clay a bit (that wedging stuff you guys are
debating) before trying to make something with it I could probably get
rid of most of the spots but it is still very annoying and I'm not quite
that patient, I'm afraid. I guess I'd better learn to be if I'm going to
be serious about this stuff, eh?

I'm really not impressed with the Van Aken brand. It doesn't smooth out
nearly as well as the Studio Basics I bought (it seems rather dry to me
and water doesn't seem to help) AND it has the same color problems.

Phil



"Diego" wrote in
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Hi Phil:

http://www.kleanklay.com

This is my source for plasticine clay. They have all kinds of colors
and firmnesses. Many companies resell this clay. But, if what you
purchased wasn't from this company, then you might want to give them a
try. Their modeling clay seems to be the most consistent in quality.
Call them up. They will fax or email you a price list. Their prices
are half what everyone
else charges.

Diego

"Phil" wrote in message
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I'm posting here in the hopes that someone will have experience with
modelling clays. The only group that exists for this subject is quite
unused, sadly. I just have a question about clay quality.

I bought some "plasticina" modelling clay from a company called
Studio Basics. I paid $3.95 for a 1 pound block. It's non-drying for
claymation type work.

My question is this: Is it normal for these kinds of clays to have
specks of the colors that were used to make them? It seems like
poor-quality clay to me; I can't imagine that pros use something like
this. I'm finding it really difficult to work with as I'll be trying
to get a shape with it and suddenly a speck of a different color will
appear and ruin my progress.



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Old April 22nd 04, 10:19 PM
Diego
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Oh, one more thing. That plasticine clay is usually some sort
of petroleum base. So, water may not have any affect. The
only think I use water for is to lubricate the surface when
burnishing it. Really gives a nice, smooth surface. Without
knowing the exact ingredients, you might run the risk of breaking
down the clay into something unusable.

Diego

"Phil" wrote in message
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Diego, thanks. I've bookmarked the page and will look into it later.

Earlier today I bought some Van Aken brand Claytoon Clay because I'd
heard a lot of good things about it. So I get it home, tear off a piece
of beige skin color clay, and what do I see? The exact same problem -
red spots all throughout the clay. The white seems to be the same way,
except with blue instead of red.

If I just worked the clay a bit (that wedging stuff you guys are
debating) before trying to make something with it I could probably get
rid of most of the spots but it is still very annoying and I'm not quite
that patient, I'm afraid. I guess I'd better learn to be if I'm going to
be serious about this stuff, eh?

I'm really not impressed with the Van Aken brand. It doesn't smooth out
nearly as well as the Studio Basics I bought (it seems rather dry to me
and water doesn't seem to help) AND it has the same color problems.

Phil



"Diego" wrote in
:

Hi Phil:

http://www.kleanklay.com

This is my source for plasticine clay. They have all kinds of colors
and firmnesses. Many companies resell this clay. But, if what you
purchased wasn't from this company, then you might want to give them a
try. Their modeling clay seems to be the most consistent in quality.
Call them up. They will fax or email you a price list. Their prices
are half what everyone
else charges.

Diego

"Phil" wrote in message
...
I'm posting here in the hopes that someone will have experience with
modelling clays. The only group that exists for this subject is quite
unused, sadly. I just have a question about clay quality.

I bought some "plasticina" modelling clay from a company called
Studio Basics. I paid $3.95 for a 1 pound block. It's non-drying for
claymation type work.

My question is this: Is it normal for these kinds of clays to have
specks of the colors that were used to make them? It seems like
poor-quality clay to me; I can't imagine that pros use something like
this. I'm finding it really difficult to work with as I'll be trying
to get a shape with it and suddenly a speck of a different color will
appear and ruin my progress.



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Old April 30th 04, 12:39 PM
Phil
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Yes I noticed that about the plasticine...it's kind of water-resistant and
does smooth really nicely with water.

That's interesting about the forensics stuff..I'd wondered what they used
for that actually. Once I get better at doing this I'll give kleanklay a
try..for now I can deal with the stuff I have. It's all practice at this
point

Phil


"Diego" wrote in news:qFWhc.48244$L31.18470
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Oh, one more thing. That plasticine clay is usually some sort
of petroleum base. So, water may not have any affect. The
only think I use water for is to lubricate the surface when
burnishing it. Really gives a nice, smooth surface. Without
knowing the exact ingredients, you might run the risk of breaking
down the clay into something unusable.

Diego

 




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