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Ethical question about quilt shows
It all depends on the rules of the show. Some shows don't allow kits at all.
Some allow them, but say that there must be a notation on the entry form. Other shows (including many guild shows) don't care. It's only unethical (which is pretty strong language) if she broke the show rules. Personally, I don't see much difference between entering a kit quilt and entering a quilt made from a pattern and having a friend choose the fabrics. In both cases, the person entering the quilt didn't design the pattern and didn't choose the fabrics. As long as they aren't taking credit for what they didn't do (in other words, I think patterns, kits, etc should ALWAYS be credited on the little sign hanging on the quilt), where's the problem? -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious to reply "Sunny" wrote in message oups.com... I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
On Oct 22, 11:51 pm, Sunny wrote:
I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny I think you have a valid point. but I also think there are many aspects of quilt shows where this is common practice. I also feel when you send your quilt out to be quilted by someone else they should be given the credit for that part of the quilt. Kits, patterns, quilting are all things that should be taken into consideration when judging. I have also been to shows that do not use accredited judges. Are the awards valid, accredited or is that just a "matter of opinion" award. :-) Marsha |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
What if two people entered identical quilts!
Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin MB wrote: Did the judges know that it came from a kit? I once saw a quilt made from a kit in a show and people were raving about it too. Scads of fabrics and it was lovely. It did win a prize but I didn't see anything on it that said it was from a kit---and I knew that it was because I had bought the same kit then returned it when I knew I just couldn't do that much hand applique !! Mary/VT snipped: "Sunny" I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
Our guild show doesn't allow kit quilts to be entered for competition.
G They also don't allow kitted block of the month quilts and such. IF there is room in the show these items may be entered for display only. Along the same lines they also do not allow whole cloth that are pre-stamped with the quilting design. sigh. (That one I don't understand...... especially with the small ones that are a single stencil. why should it matter if I transfered the design, or someone else did it?? I am doing the quilting-- selecting the backing, batting, thread and finishing. sigh) I agree with you. And also think that kit quilts should be labeled as such. We all know to acknowledge the designer of the quilt on the label, well, the selection of the fabric is a part of the process that should also be credited. In my opinion anyway. VBG Pati, in Phx http://community.webshots.com/user/PatiCooks Sunny wrote: I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
Uppity Quilters Unite!!
PAT, a UQ in VA/USA Polly Esther wrote: While Sunny is being snitty, I'll just be uppity. (Ha. My mind zigzags off here to the How the Fight Started and 'which one are you then?'). I simply can not imagine making a quilt where someone else chose the fabric prints and colors and orchestrated the blending thereof. I can't even take a cheater panel for a crib quilt and leave it alone; I always have to make it mine. Even out here in the Swamp where all they sell is barbed wire and hawg feed, it would be impossible for me to accept what someone else put together. So. I reject the notion that a kit would be an unfair advantage. We 'uppity' quilters would think of it as a handicap. Which one are you then? Polly |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
Yes, you are right. The show that I saw the quilt made from a kit was a
small show but it was still a treat to see it made up. The shop that sold the kit was 2 hours away from this town so perhaps the judges hadn't known about it...and how could they with so much available today. And would it have made a difference..I don't know. I've noticed that a lot of art quilts today use paint on the surface ..kind of make your own fabric....and I had to get used to that idea which was new to me. Quilting methods.. surface designing..etc., are moving in all directions ! "Julia in MN" wrote in message ... I think it depends on the rules of the show. Our local show is not a judged show, so rules are probably more lax than in a judged show and I would find a quilt from a kit to be more acceptable. It seems like the "kit-builder" should be given some credit. Of course, you could end up with quite a list of credits: "Pattern designed by A, fabrics selected by B, piecing and/or applique done by C, quilted by D". I'm not a big fan of kits, because I like the challenge of selecting fabrics to make a pattern my own; for me part of the process is making something that is not exactly like someone else's. Julia in MN Sunny wrote: I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny -- This message has been scanned for viruses by Norton Anti-Virus http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/ |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
Now that could create problems !!! I do remember entering only one
show but had to send a picture along w/ the entry form so perhaps they would ...if they had a lot of quilts entered.....deny one..or both entries? I guess I'll never get into judging ...I wouldn't want to be the one making decisions !!...Mary "Sally Swindells" ... What if two people entered identical quilts! Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin MB wrote: Did the judges know that it came from a kit? I once saw a quilt made from a kit in a show and people were raving about it too. Scads of fabrics and it was lovely. It did win a prize but I didn't see anything on it that said it was from a kit---and I knew that it was because I had bought the same kit then returned it when I knew I just couldn't do that much hand applique !! Mary/VT snipped: "Sunny" I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
Boy, my sentence after "(BTDT!)" is really confusing
.... even I cannot understand it! I THINK I meant to say something along the lines of "If the committee elects or is required to accept kit quilts, perhaps that should be a separate category." Clear as mud? PAT in VA/USA Pat in Virginia wrote: What I think: the rules of each show will vary, so some may permit kit quilts, others not. If you prefer another set of rules, volunteer for the next show committee. Of course the rest of the committee may out vote your suggestions, but at least you would have tried. (BTDT!!) If a committee is required to hang those quilts, perhaps that should be a separate committee. You are not rude, nor snitty ... unless you've blabbed it all over the show and guild, which of course I doubt. I'd have your reaction too!! PAT in VA/USA Sunny wrote: I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
It happens a lot, Sally. We noticed there were three identical quilts at
the most recent quilt show we attended. They were all baskets with the very same 3-dimensional flowers in the very same fabrics. Maybe they were from a kit or a class. If making and entering them made the quilters happy, it's certainly okay with me but I just couldn't do it. Polly "Sally Swindells" asked What if two people entered identical quilts! |
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