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Ethical question about quilt shows
I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this
year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
Sunny wrote:
I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? I've got a pile of old magazines that I've just been reading, I've read many many articles, so I'm a bit mixed up, but I'm pretty sure one place said that back in the 30s it was entirely normal to enter kit quilts for shows. In the present day, it seemed that it might be ok, but very much depends on the rules for the specific show. If it's a kit, credit must be given to the designer of the quilt and displaying it might break the copyright of the original designer and it should definitely be made clear on a note by the quilt that it was a kit designed by x and made by y. If she didn't fill that in on the application and it's just something she happened to let slip, I agree that would be unethical. Even with the information being clearly stated, I guess that not all viewers would read it or take it in, but I guess that's a risk you take if you enter a show that's entirely viewers choice, there are some traditional designs that can be stunning as well as some that come completely from the makers imagination, a judge should be reading the accompanying info and applying knowledge, you can't expect that of viewers choice and some unusual winners crop up. Having said all that, even if it's all within the rules, I'd hope for a better example by an LQS owner, in a similar way to how you'd expect a fireman to not have an open fire in the woods, you expect something a little bit more from them, whether that's fair or not! Cheers Anne |
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On Oct 22, 10:51 pm, Sunny wrote:
I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny On one hand, it doesn't seem ethical, esp. if she didn't give credit to whomever *did* choose those fabrics for that particular pattern. On the other hand, the workmanship *is* hers, even if the fabric choices arent. Maybe they should have a separate category for "Quilt Kits"? |
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Most of us view kits as nice but a sort of "cheater quilt." I do think it is unfair for the competition who has to pick their own fabrics. I certainly think he/she should admit that it is a kit so the judges can take that into accout. "Sunny" wrote in message oups.com... I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:51:55 -0700, Sunny wrote:
I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny It isn't any different than buying a Thimbleberries quilt pattern and then buying exactly the same Thimbleberries prints as shown in the pattern sample picture. The only advantage would be having the full fabric line or lines the designer used when designing the quilt. I've seen many BOMs sold as monthly block kits, but they would only be listed as BOMs in a show. Many of those BOM patterns are only sold in kits so there isn't even a chance to choose a set of fabrics yourself unless you want to throw away several hundred dollars worth of kit fabric, do a lot of math to figure actual yardage needed, and buy all new fabric to make the quilt. I don't think a quilt kit would be easier to sew than following a pattern in a book either. It might be harder since there is a risk of running out of any of the fabrics included in the kit, and if the block pieces are pre-cut there is the added risk of poorly cut pieces to challenge the quilter. I think as long as the designer was mentioned on the information card, as it should be for any other quilt designer, it should be all right. It isn't like all the quilts at a show are expected to be original patterns by each quilt maker. If that were expected there would be a lot fewer quilts in shows, and probably a lot fewer shows too. Debra in VA See my quilts at http://community.webshots.com/user/debplayshere |
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I think the accompanying info should say, "Made from a kit by XYZ." The
maker can get points for her workmanship. Nann "Sunny" wrote in message oups.com... I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Did the judges know that it came from a kit? I once saw a quilt made from
a kit in a show and people were raving about it too. Scads of fabrics and it was lovely. It did win a prize but I didn't see anything on it that said it was from a kit---and I knew that it was because I had bought the same kit then returned it when I knew I just couldn't do that much hand applique !! Mary/VT snipped: "Sunny" I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. |
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What I think: the rules of each show will vary, so some
may permit kit quilts, others not. If you prefer another set of rules, volunteer for the next show committee. Of course the rest of the committee may out vote your suggestions, but at least you would have tried. (BTDT!!) If a committee is required to hang those quilts, perhaps that should be a separate committee. You are not rude, nor snitty ... unless you've blabbed it all over the show and guild, which of course I doubt. I'd have your reaction too!! PAT in VA/USA Sunny wrote: I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
While Sunny is being snitty, I'll just be uppity. (Ha. My mind zigzags off
here to the How the Fight Started and 'which one are you then?'). I simply can not imagine making a quilt where someone else chose the fabric prints and colors and orchestrated the blending thereof. I can't even take a cheater panel for a crib quilt and leave it alone; I always have to make it mine. Even out here in the Swamp where all they sell is barbed wire and hawg feed, it would be impossible for me to accept what someone else put together. So. I reject the notion that a kit would be an unfair advantage. We 'uppity' quilters would think of it as a handicap. Which one are you then? Polly "Pat in Virginia" wrote in message ... What I think: the rules of each show will vary, so some may permit kit quilts, others not. If you prefer another set of rules, volunteer for the next show committee. Of course the rest of the committee may out vote your suggestions, but at least you would have tried. (BTDT!!) If a committee is required to hang those quilts, perhaps that should be a separate committee. You are not rude, nor snitty ... unless you've blabbed it all over the show and guild, which of course I doubt. I'd have your reaction too!! PAT in VA/USA Sunny wrote: I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny |
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Ethical question about quilt shows
I think it depends on the rules of the show. Our local show is not a
judged show, so rules are probably more lax than in a judged show and I would find a quilt from a kit to be more acceptable. It seems like the "kit-builder" should be given some credit. Of course, you could end up with quite a list of credits: "Pattern designed by A, fabrics selected by B, piecing and/or applique done by C, quilted by D". I'm not a big fan of kits, because I like the challenge of selecting fabrics to make a pattern my own; for me part of the process is making something that is not exactly like someone else's. Julia in MN Sunny wrote: I was admiring the gorgeous quilt that won the top prizes at this year's local guild quilt show a few weeks back today. It was made by one of the owners of the LQS here. I opined that picking the fabrics must have been really a hoot when she said that she hadn't picked any, it was a kit. OK, I understand somebody entering a kitted quilt if they are just getting started, but ...... this struck me as just a bit unethical. The show is viewer's choice and the quilt is stunning. It's paper pieced and the design just seems to glow. But she didn't really make those fabric choices. What do you folks think? Am I just being rude and snitty, as my DH suggests? Sunny -- This message has been scanned for viruses by Norton Anti-Virus http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/ |
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