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DECEMBER'S BLOCKS - 2005-2006 RCTQ Block-of-the-Month (BOM)
I know they aren't as hard as I once feared. But, I must admit, if I can
re-draft a block to avoid them and still get the look I want, I will. Sometimes that extra seam really messes up the look or causes you to cut into a fabric motif that should stay whole, so I agree that it is a good idea to practice and get over any Y-seam phobia. Thanks for the nice clear instructions too Patti. Anne in CA annerudolph AT comcast DOT net "It's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got." -- Sheryl Crow http://community.webshots.com/user/annerudolph3 http://www.frappr.com/rctq Patti wrote: For anyone who is thinking that a 'Y' seam is difficult - it really isn't. If you try going from one end, into the centre, pivot, and then out the other side, yes perhaps it might not give a satisfactory result, and so it is seen as: 'difficult' BUT, if you make a habit of seeing the seam as *two* seams: sew the first - and I would suggest going from the centre to the outside; then take the piece out of the machine and re-fold so that the second seam is convenient for sewing, again sew from the centre to the outside, and *always* sew only to within a quarter of an inch of the centre end of both seams (another reason why it is a good idea to start from the centre!), then these seams are absolutely no more difficult that any other kind of seam. Truly. (I'm not in any way criticising anyone who has found a way to avoid them, if that is what they want to do, just thought it might be timely to suggest an easy method - since we haven't had 'Y' seams crop up for a while) . In message . com, Dee in Oz writes Isn't that cheating on the challenge of the 'harder' blocks and not doing the 'Y' seams ??? Dee in Oz ( yes I did save it thanks Anne as it may just come in handy after I get Novembers done !! LOL ) |
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DECEMBER'S BLOCKS - 2005-2006 RCTQ Block-of-the-Month (BOM)
Cause they give up instead of pulling up their shorts and setting to. NightMist is manic, and thus depression is a totally alien concept On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:30:11 -0800, DrQuilter wrote: how come some people kill themselves though? SNIGDIBBLY wrote: Hang in there - it's hard but they say the Creator never gives us more than we can handle. Sometimes I wonder tho. -- Dr. Quilter http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out for a walk) -- "To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole |
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Why Suicide?
I don't have an answer for that. I have known some people who said their
lives were just too painful to endure. I strongly believe in self-determination but suicide can be a selfish act that leaves those who loved that person with such raw, agonizing pain and so many unanswered questions. It can also be a manipulation that goes wrong. A lot of the suicide notes I have seen during my professional life were massive guilt trips. My DD has recently been diagnosed with Manic-Depressive/Bi-polar Disease and has often said how painful her life can be when she is in her low times. She feels compelled to end her emotional pain during these times but during the good times is glad that she didn't act on those dark thoughts. The Lithium has evened it out some but has horrible side effects. Her hand trembles so much that she can no longer hand quilt or cross stitch and that breaks her heart. They are still working with the dosage but her neurologist says she may have to live with this particular side effect in order to even out the mood swings. I worry that I will get a call someday. I just try to put her in her Creators hands and pray for her to find some kind of peace. I never end a conversation with her without telling her I love her. It isn't much but it will comfort me if the worst ever happens. Selfish of me, now. I have worked very hard on accepting the fact that I can't control other people - not even my children, LOL!! -- http://community.webshots.com/user/snigdibbly SNIGDIBBLY ~e~ " / \ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/snigdibbly. http://www.ebaystores.com/snigdibbly...ox&refid=store "DrQuilter" wrote in message ... how come some people kill themselves though? SNIGDIBBLY wrote: Hang in there - it's hard but they say the Creator never gives us more than we can handle. Sometimes I wonder tho. -- Dr. Quilter http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out for a walk) |
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DECEMBER'S BLOCKS - 2005-2006 RCTQ Block-of-the-Month (BOM)
Yelp!! I'm not into inflicting pain on myself - lifes too short. I find my
pleasure where I can. -- http://community.webshots.com/user/snigdibbly SNIGDIBBLY ~e~ " / \ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/snigdibbly. http://www.ebaystores.com/snigdibbly...ox&refid=store "NightMist" wrote in message ... Cause they give up instead of pulling up their shorts and setting to. NightMist is manic, and thus depression is a totally alien concept On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:30:11 -0800, DrQuilter wrote: how come some people kill themselves though? SNIGDIBBLY wrote: Hang in there - it's hard but they say the Creator never gives us more than we can handle. Sometimes I wonder tho. -- Dr. Quilter http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out for a walk) -- "To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole |
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OT: Why Suicide?
SNIGDIBBLY wrote:
I don't have an answer for that. I have known some people who said their lives were just too painful to endure. I strongly believe in self-determination but suicide can be a selfish act that leaves those who loved that person with such raw, agonizing pain and so many unanswered questions. ...... This is sort of long -- sorry. I haven't followed this thread but I wanted to say that there are people like my older DSis who committed suicide. She was in her mid-50's at the time (1994) when she finally made the decision to leave us. When conceived, she was *supposed* to be a conjoined twin connected at the base of the spine. The other fetus spontaneously aborted at about 6 months gestation and as a result my DS was born with Spinabifida, clubbed feet, Scoliosis, severe nerve damage to her bladder and other problems too numerous to mention. He spine was so deformed that one hip was a full inch higher than the other. She was *always* in pain as an adult. When her Dr. told her that she would soon be on morphine to handle the pain, she knew she would very soon end up in a nursing home and be bed-ridden. She knew that once on morphine she would have less than a year to live so she decided it was time to take her leave. After Christmas, she started to tell everyone that she was just too tired and in too much pain to deal with another hot Phoenix summer and would probably "do what needs to be done". She left us on 04 June 1994 and the only one who was really surprised was my Dad, probably because he never did acknowledge the fact that she had such severe handicaps. Her suicide *was* a selfish act but one that was understandable and didn't really cause severe trauma for those of us left behind. Anyway, I personally feel that people who are in chronic terrible pain that cannot be alleviated or have a terminal illness -- things that we know will not ever get better -- have the right to choose when they will die. I am still upset about the fact that my poor sister had to take this last step all alone because anyone who had been with her could have been prosecuted and put in jail. DSis was SO severely handicapped that an autopsy wasn't done, even tho' she had died "under unknown circumstances". Once the medical authorities got one look at her body, they understood and KNEW she had been a suicide. Obviously, the whole family was upset about loosing her but we knew why it happened. Her true friends understood and there wasn't really anything unusually traumatic for us in dealing with the loss. We were lucky in that we all (except for Papa) accepted her decision and knew that she WAS in a better place. Unfortunately, this isn't true for many families of suicides. I like to think that she chose self euthanasia as opposed to suicide. Her death was a well though out occurrence, there was no severe emotional problem, and she really didn't have many other options. VBS -- I still miss her even tho' we weren't close. CiaoMeow ^;;^ -- PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their whiskers! Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary |
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OT: Why Suicide?
Tia Mary - I just wanted to say thank you for sharing this thoughtful
post. I have seen, and been on, both sides of this issue and it is a tough call to make for many people. Those who do it, or don't, and those who have to survive, or not. Myself, in many ways I think it is also selfish of the people left behind - to think that the person who chose to end their life was "selfish". Perhaps they were suffering an unbearable physical or mental pain, that another person not experiencing, could not begin to imagine. For someone to want that person to stay alive, and in their life, just to suit them, is the most selfish act I can imagine. Again, there are two sides to every story and situation and I can see and respect both sides. I am most grateful and honored to you for your courage and ability in sharing this story. Hugs, Tina |
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OT: Why Suicide?
Thank you so much for taking the time and energy--and having the courage--to
write this. --Heidi Plattsburgh (UPstate) NY http://community.webshots.com/user/rabbit2b -- "Tia Mary" wrote in message ... SNIGDIBBLY wrote: I don't have an answer for that. I have known some people who said their lives were just too painful to endure. I strongly believe in self-determination but suicide can be a selfish act that leaves those who loved that person with such raw, agonizing pain and so many unanswered questions. ...... This is sort of long -- sorry. I haven't followed this thread but I wanted to say that there are people like my older DSis who committed suicide. She was in her mid-50's at the time (1994) when she finally made the decision to leave us. When conceived, she was *supposed* to be a conjoined twin connected at the base of the spine. The other fetus spontaneously aborted at about 6 months gestation and as a result my DS was born with Spinabifida, clubbed feet, Scoliosis, severe nerve damage to her bladder and other problems too numerous to mention. He spine was so deformed that one hip was a full inch higher than the other. She was *always* in pain as an adult. When her Dr. told her that she would soon be on morphine to handle the pain, she knew she would very soon end up in a nursing home and be bed-ridden. She knew that once on morphine she would have less than a year to live so she decided it was time to take her leave. After Christmas, she started to tell everyone that she was just too tired and in too much pain to deal with another hot Phoenix summer and would probably "do what needs to be done". She left us on 04 June 1994 and the only one who was really surprised was my Dad, probably because he never did acknowledge the fact that she had such severe handicaps. Her suicide *was* a selfish act but one that was understandable and didn't really cause severe trauma for those of us left behind. Anyway, I personally feel that people who are in chronic terrible pain that cannot be alleviated or have a terminal illness -- things that we know will not ever get better -- have the right to choose when they will die. I am still upset about the fact that my poor sister had to take this last step all alone because anyone who had been with her could have been prosecuted and put in jail. DSis was SO severely handicapped that an autopsy wasn't done, even tho' she had died "under unknown circumstances". Once the medical authorities got one look at her body, they understood and KNEW she had been a suicide. Obviously, the whole family was upset about loosing her but we knew why it happened. Her true friends understood and there wasn't really anything unusually traumatic for us in dealing with the loss. We were lucky in that we all (except for Papa) accepted her decision and knew that she WAS in a better place. Unfortunately, this isn't true for many families of suicides. I like to think that she chose self euthanasia as opposed to suicide. Her death was a well though out occurrence, there was no severe emotional problem, and she really didn't have many other options. VBS -- I still miss her even tho' we weren't close. CiaoMeow ^;;^ -- PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their whiskers! Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary |
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DECEMBER'S BLOCKS - 2005-2006 RCTQ Block-of-the-Month (BOM)
I personally, live my life by this philosophy. But can you imagine for
one second, the person who does not believe in God, or A God, or a Creator? Why would this "cliche" mean a hill of beans to them? For someone suffering extreme pain or mental anguish, to be told "The Creator never gives us more than we can handle." Would seem to say, "Oh just suck up, you're never given more than you can handle, you're just being a wimp at the moment." Not true. You wouldn't mean it that way. I might not take it that way. But I can sure empathize with the feeling of being told such. Well, if the Creator (whoever that is) doesn't give me anything more than I can handle, then I must be a wimp or something, because I sure don't think I can handle this unbearable pain, or suffering, or loss, or....... insert your trauma/disaster/trouble here........ and it just may be, if He/She/The Creator DID put something in our life that was more than we were capable of handling, then perhaps it was His/Her/The Creators choice to give us a situation so unbearable that we would choose to take our own life, and He/She/The Creator would allow that to happen. If He/She/The Creator thought it was something we SHOULD have been able to handle, then perhaps He/She/The Creator would not have allowed the 'suicide' to be successful. Now there's a thought to chew on............ Hugs, Tina |
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Why Suicide?
Hey Snigs! The hand tremors are called tardive dyskinesia. There are more than a few mental health drugs that can cause it. Often switching drugs can stop it while still taking care of the symptoms you are taking it for. If you do not switch off on the drugs the tremors may become permanent. I got it at one point when I saw a substitute doctor at the clinic and he went bonkers on me over some stuff I considered very minor, and overloaded me on meds. I did the medication merry-go-round for a while. Then I realized that my psychiatrist really didn't care if the drugs completely incapacitated me so long as they allieviated the symptoms, and that there was no failsafe in case the _drugs_ made me completely bonkers, as did happen with one medication. Fortunately, my diagnosis is one of the ones that are not only fairly easy to live with (so long as you avoid the wrong stress), but it can also make you very productive. NightMist On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:19:56 -0600, "SNIGDIBBLY" wrote: I don't have an answer for that. I have known some people who said their lives were just too painful to endure. I strongly believe in self-determination but suicide can be a selfish act that leaves those who loved that person with such raw, agonizing pain and so many unanswered questions. It can also be a manipulation that goes wrong. A lot of the suicide notes I have seen during my professional life were massive guilt trips. My DD has recently been diagnosed with Manic-Depressive/Bi-polar Disease and has often said how painful her life can be when she is in her low times. She feels compelled to end her emotional pain during these times but during the good times is glad that she didn't act on those dark thoughts. The Lithium has evened it out some but has horrible side effects. Her hand trembles so much that she can no longer hand quilt or cross stitch and that breaks her heart. They are still working with the dosage but her neurologist says she may have to live with this particular side effect in order to even out the mood swings. I worry that I will get a call someday. I just try to put her in her Creators hands and pray for her to find some kind of peace. I never end a conversation with her without telling her I love her. It isn't much but it will comfort me if the worst ever happens. Selfish of me, now. I have worked very hard on accepting the fact that I can't control other people - not even my children, LOL!! -- http://community.webshots.com/user/snigdibbly SNIGDIBBLY ~e~ " / \ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/snigdibbly. http://www.ebaystores.com/snigdibbly...ox&refid=store "DrQuilter" wrote in message ... how come some people kill themselves though? SNIGDIBBLY wrote: Hang in there - it's hard but they say the Creator never gives us more than we can handle. Sometimes I wonder tho. -- Dr. Quilter http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out for a walk) -- "To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole |
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OT: Why Suicide?
Thanks Tia Mary.
So sad for all concerned. I have always told the children I have taught that they must never, ever pass any kind of judgement on someone who takes their own life, whatever the circumstances. I do believe that is how we should all think. I trust I am not offending anyone by saying that. .. In message , Tia Mary writes This is sort of long -- sorry. I haven't followed this thread but I wanted to say that there are people like my older DSis who committed suicide. She was in her mid-50's at the time (1994) when she finally made the decision to leave us. When conceived, she was *supposed* to be a conjoined twin connected at the base of the spine. The other fetus spontaneously aborted at about 6 months gestation and as a result my DS was born with Spinabifida, clubbed feet, Scoliosis, severe nerve damage to her bladder and other problems too numerous to mention. He spine was so deformed that one hip was a full inch higher than the other. She was *always* in pain as an adult. When her Dr. told her that she would soon be on morphine to handle the pain, she knew she would very soon end up in a nursing home and be bed-ridden. She knew that once on morphine she would have less than a year to live so she decided it was time to take her leave. After Christmas, she started to tell everyone that she was just too tired and in too much pain to deal with another hot Phoenix summer and would probably "do what needs to be done". She left us on 04 June 1994 and the only one who was really surprised was my Dad, probably because he never did acknowledge the fact that she had such severe handicaps. Her suicide *was* a selfish act but one that was understandable and didn't really cause severe trauma for those of us left behind. Anyway, I personally feel that people who are in chronic terrible pain that cannot be alleviated or have a terminal illness -- things that we know will not ever get better -- have the right to choose when they will die. I am still upset about the fact that my poor sister had to take this last step all alone because anyone who had been with her could have been prosecuted and put in jail. DSis was SO severely handicapped that an autopsy wasn't done, even tho' she had died "under unknown circumstances". Once the medical authorities got one look at her body, they understood and KNEW she had been a suicide. Obviously, the whole family was upset about loosing her but we knew why it happened. Her true friends understood and there wasn't really anything unusually traumatic for us in dealing with the loss. We were lucky in that we all (except for Papa) accepted her decision and knew that she WAS in a better place. Unfortunately, this isn't true for many families of suicides. I like to think that she chose self euthanasia as opposed to suicide. Her death was a well though out occurrence, there was no severe emotional problem, and she really didn't have many other options. VBS -- I still miss her even tho' we weren't close. CiaoMeow ^;;^ -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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