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Dakota Colors?
Yeah, Homer just wouldn't look right without the right color yellow
head... :-) Doc On Oct 6, 6:13*pm, "J*" wrote: fair enough. *j. |
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ME Threads [Was: ME: Dakota Colors?]
Okay- I've had the flu for two weeks and still not thinking straight. It's
TriloBAL thread by Coats and Clark that I have on hand. Sorry! ;-) http://www.coatsandclark.com/Product...ery+Thread.htm http://www.equilter.com/cgi-bin/webc...html?catid=190 http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...-yds/products/ http://www.syntheticthread.com/superbrite.htm Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. "Dr. Zachary Smith" wrote in message ... On Oct 6, 3:25 pm, "Leslie& The Furbabies in MO." wrote: I am just about to start playing with the trilobars so haven't formed any opinions yet. I can tell you that they look and feel very much like my rayon threads and may be a good substitute for you to use due to the fragile nature of the rayons. I just did a 'pull til it breaks' test on a rayon and a trilobar and the trilobar is substantially stronger. Trilobars? Isn't that a fossil? :-) http://brianlean.files.wordpress.com...trilobite1.jpg Nevermind... I'll look it up... Doc |
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ME Threads [Was: ME: Dakota Colors?]
On Oct 7, 9:25*am, "Leslie& The Furbabies in MO."
wrote: Okay- I've had the flu for two weeks and still not thinking straight. *It's TriloBAL thread by Coats and Clark that I have on hand. *Sorry! *;-) Well, that explains why "trilobars" sent me to a slew of medical sites - Ewww! :^D Doc |
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ME Threads [Was: ME: Dakota Colors?]
I'm impressed with the first word you used. I wouldn't have known it
gg .. In message , Leslie& The Furbabies in MO. writes Okay- I've had the flu for two weeks and still not thinking straight. It's TriloBAL thread by Coats and Clark that I have on hand. Sorry! ;-) http://www.coatsandclark.com/Product...hreads/Triloba l+Polyester+Embroidery+Thread.htm http://www.equilter.com/cgi-bin/webc...html?catid=190 http://www.superiorthreads.com/shop/...-yds/products/ http://www.syntheticthread.com/superbrite.htm Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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ME Threads [Was: ME: Dakota Colors?]
I have tried several brands of machine embroidery thread with my Janome
MC10001. Of all the ones that I tried, there is only one brand that I had real difficulty with -- Coats & Clark. I tried their rayon & polyester embroidery threads and had the same problem with both, though I think their rayon is the worst. Their thread is not twisted as tightly as other brands, and this caused me no end of difficulty with it (breakage, thread splitting, etc). I purchased is at a 50% off sale at Joann's, but this was truly a case of "you get what you pay for". I now wish that I had spent that money more wisely. There is some variation in texture between other brands, but they all worked well with my machine. Given those variations, you would need to test them out to see what works best for your project. They were touting Floriani thread as extra special at my LQS (their metallic thread is supposed to be made with a different process than the other mfgs), but I have not tried it yet (it costs more than the thread I normally buy). Their polyester thread appears to be a bit more lustrous than some, so I plan to try it out some day. Regarding thread colors, I just searched and the following site has links to many machine embroidery thread color conversion charts. http://www.sewterific.com/threadcharts.htm For example, if you know a Madeira rayon thread color, then you would use these charts to find a closely (or the closest) matching color in another thread type (e.g., polyester) or another mfg. -- Bev in TX "Dr. Zachary Smith" wrote in message ... .... portion snipped ... I *am* asking for opinions on which brands of thread are better/worse. Things are just more complicated than brand x vs. brand y. If someone had experience that brand x were terrible, kept breaking in the machine, faded, etc. or that brand y was really good and they wouldn't consider using anything else... that kind of stuff (the usual opinion fests here on RCTQ :-) it might help me figure this mess out. OTOH, if all embroidery threads are pretty much the same, that would help too. We just don't know, so I asked. Doc |
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ME Threads [Was: ME: Dakota Colors?]
Trilobals are polyester, with a high sheen. Somewhat more colorfast
than rayon, definitely stronger than rayons, especially when wet. G All trilobals are not created equal... same as any thread. I have used, and have some of the Superior threads that are trilobal poly, and they are great, But a bit on the fine side. Coverage will vary depending on the size of the thread and the density of the stitching. g I too, love Sulky threads--rayons, metallics, slivers, and holographic-- but understand some of both the strengths and weaknesses of them. And different machines do seem to react differently to different threads. Play with tension as needed and be prepared to do several "test runs" to get things straightened out. If the test runs work, then use them. G If not, figure out what to do and make notes on/about it. Keep the "losers" with the notes to help remind you what you did/didn't do. It is a learning process, and that means making less than perfect examples along the way. As to color choices.... yes each company has their own set up, and different design designers/digitizers will use their "favorite". However, if you have a color picture you want to get close to, you can use whatever specific colors/brands you want to use. G I am one who usually wants to change things up...and choose my own colors for a design. Others are not comfortable doing that, at least at first. So whatever works, works. Have fun, Pati, in Phx n Oct 6, 12:25*pm, "Leslie& The Furbabies in MO." wrote: Good thoughts! *I only do free motion machine embroidery (and LOVE it!!!) so I can't speak on threads for an embroidery machine but I've had great luck with Janome brand rayon thread (yep, same as my beloved sm!) and Sulky brand rayon (LOVE rayons!). *Sulky metallics have never given me any troubles but I am careful to get my tension right and use the proper needles for any sewing job. I've heard good things about the polyester trilobar thread (I think it was Kathy A. and where *is* that gal???)- I have Coats and Clark trilobar from Joann's. *I am just about to start playing with the trilobars so haven't formed any opinions yet. *I can tell you that they look and feel very much like my rayon threads and may be a good substitute for you to use due to the fragile nature of the rayons. *I just did a 'pull til it breaks' test on a rayon and a trilobar and the trilobar is substantially stronger. Not much help, but I *always* have an opinion! Leslie & The Furbabies in MO. |
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ME Threads [Was: ME: Dakota Colors?]
Pati, I just wanted to say thank you for always jumping and
sharing your vast knowledge of threads (and other quilt help) I appreciate it and know it has to help others too. Taria "Pati, in Phx" wrote in message ... Trilobals are polyester, with a high sheen. Somewhat more colorfast than rayon, definitely stronger than rayons, especially when wet. G All trilobals are not created equal... same as any thread. I have used, and have some of the Superior threads that are trilobal poly, and they are great, But a bit on the fine side. Coverage will vary depending on the size of the thread and the density of the stitching. g I too, love Sulky threads--rayons, metallics, slivers, and holographic-- but understand some of both the strengths and weaknesses of them. And different machines do seem to react differently to different threads. Play with tension as needed and be prepared to do several "test runs" to get things straightened out. If the test runs work, then use them. G If not, figure out what to do and make notes on/about it. Keep the "losers" with the notes to help remind you what you did/didn't do. It is a learning process, and that means making less than perfect examples along the way. As to color choices.... yes each company has their own set up, and different design designers/digitizers will use their "favorite". However, if you have a color picture you want to get close to, you can use whatever specific colors/brands you want to use. G I am one who usually wants to change things up...and choose my own colors for a design. Others are not comfortable doing that, at least at first. So whatever works, works. Have fun, Pati, in Phx |
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Dakota Colors?
pardon?
j. "Dr. Zachary Smith" wrote ... Yeah, Homer just wouldn't look right without the right color yellow head... :-) Doc "J*" wrote: fair enough. j. |
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Dakota Colors?
J* wrote:
pardon? j. Homer Simpson - re-colored.... "Dr. Zachary Smith" wrote ... Yeah, Homer just wouldn't look right without the right color yellow head... :-) Doc "J*" wrote: fair enough. j. |
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Dakota Colors?
i got the hair colour part but i dont see the relevence.
nevermind tho, it must be a cultural thing and have no culture as a back up to understanding most things in this world... j. "Herb" wrote ... Homer Simpson - re-colored.... J* wrote: pardon? "Dr. Zachary Smith" wrote ... Yeah, Homer just wouldn't look right without the right color yellow head... :-) "J*" wrote: fair enough. |
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