grrrrrrr. Price gouging OT

Sorry to reply to my own post, but I wanted to add that I don't think an
extra dollar is outrageous or anything. I was merely curious as to the
reasoning. Hope I didn't step on any toes or offend anyone.

Anita


"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the quick answer, Snigs. It has always been one of those
questions that make sme go Hmm. I appreciate getting a point of view from
someone doing the mailing. That being said, here is my experiences
concerning mail traveling to some of the mentioned places.

Having received mail at these places for about 15 years, I'm curious as to
why folks think this mail takes anymore of a beating than mail to anywhere
else. I have volunteered at military post offices before and am aware
that mail is dropped directly into the mailbags assigned to various
international airport hubs such as Atlanta, Boston, NYC, and St. Louis to
name a few. This is the same practice as a stateside PO uses. Mail is
then driven by truck to an airport and shipped to the distribution hub and
then flown on to the next place. Mail coming to Alaska or an APO travels
basically the same as mail going from say NYC to San Francisco. At most
APOs and Alaskan destinations, it is placed directly into drop boxes and
never even leaves the PO till the box owner picks it up. The chances for
mail to be damaged in transit is the same for mail in CONUS as it is for
APOs, FPOs and Alaska in my experience, can't say about the others as I
have never received mail in those locations.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer me and give me something to
think about. I learn much more than quilting from this great group.

Anita in cold, non-snowy Alaska


"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
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Can't say why others do it but I charge an extra $1 PER ORDER - NOT
ITEM - for water proofing materials. APO, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico
mail all take a real beating in transist. In order to insure safe
shipment I need to use extra packing supplies. If anyone wants to take
their chances I will be happy to drop the extra charge at their request
but it's at their own risk. Hope that helps answer your question.

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"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
I have a question concerning shipping and handling charges and I hope I
don't upset anyone with it. Why do people charge extra for post going to
Alaska, Hawaii, APO's and FPO's? All of these mailing destinations are
serviced by the US Postal Service. I am now in Alaska and have spent the
last 12 years receiving my mail at APOs and have always wondered this.

When we want to ship items to folks in CONUS (the regular 48 states) we
are not charged any extra nor is there any reason the Post Office can
find for us being charged extra to receive items at these locations.

I would appreciate any input to my ponderings. Just one of those
questions that has always bugged me. Oh to clarify, I mean on items
going Priority or regular US Mail, not heavy items. I fully understand
the reasoning behind prices when shipping computers and furniture and
the like as they often go by container service in some form or another.

Anita in Alaska wondering if the East Coast has any snow it would like
to ship up here since it seems the Spring is trying to arrive ahead of
schedule.



"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
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That's exactly why I ship my FQs free. Shame on them for gouging
people on shipping cost.

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"lisa skeen" wrote in message
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Surfing around ebay this afternoon I found a FQ I liked, but the woman
wants $2 to stick it in an envelope and mail it. I emailed her and
said she could put it in an envelope and mail it for 39 cents, could
she be more reasonable on the shipping price. She said her prices
were lower than anyone elses, and she wasn't going to lower the
shipping price.

It seems to me in the last six months or so, there have been more and
more people on ebay price gouging in the shipping department. Week
before last I calculated the shipping on a 5-ounce book via media
mail, $1.52. The guy wanted over $5 for shipping!

I can understand adding a bit in the shipping department if you have
to do a lot of packing, like I have to do for my pottery, but shoving
a FQ into an envelope, or a book even, that's a no-cost proposition
other than the postage. It's getting to the point where people want
more for shipping than you pay for the item. sigh I hate price
gougers.

--
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Organized people are just too dang lazy to look for things.

Well, I agree with you both! :-)

Walmart, near me at least, always has Cranston or VIP quilt fabric. And
I understand from their website that they sell their fabrics to discount
stores, large chains and quilt shops. So, yes I agree with Snigdibbly
that that fabric no matter which place you purchase it is the very same
stuff.

However, many quilt fabric manufacturers will only sell to quilt shops.
I find their fabric to be smoother and have a better hand than the
Cranston or VIP brands of fabric. You cannot buy it anywhere other than
the quilt shop as the manufacturers only sells to independent quilt
shops. I agree that if you put a piece of Maywood or Nothcott fabric at
$10 a yard up against a Cranston or VIP fabric at whatever price you pay
for it you will feel the difference. You may even see a difference in
color penetration and print clarity depending on the print. I find the
quilt shop only brands to be much nicer to work with than the brands
available elsewhere.

marcella

In article 1dmIf.88856$4l5.25255@dukeread05,
"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote:

I hear ya loud and clear. It's okay to disagree with me. I'm just basing
my statements on a lady who owned her own quilt shop and who is now a buyer
for Walmart General Offices. They buy 1000's of bolts of the same print
fabric from the same vendors as the LQS - it's the same fabric (thread count
and quality) but because they buy in bulk they get a discount. Makes sense.
A LQS may buy 1-2 bolts of the same print and Walmart is buying 1000s of the
same print. I don't think the vendor would be in business very long if they
sold only their best 2 bolts only to the LQS. I would think their best
would go to the buyer with the most quantity and turn over. I wouldn't be
surprised that they tell the LQS those fairy tales to justify charging them
the premium wholesale prices they charge to them. It was quite discouraging
to my friend. Her shop was called Makin' Memories in Lowell, AR. Walmart
does sell less quality on their $1 & $2 tables - I like them for backing -
but their regular priced $3.47/yard fabric is the same fabric the LQS is
charging $15/yard for.

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" Ellison" wrote in message
t...
Howdy!
Darlin' girl, I'll just agree to disagree on this one.
I worked in the quilt shop, talked to the sales reps,
saw the difference in the fabric quality according to
where it's sold. Checked it out myself.
Have been to the garment & decorating
warehouse district in Dallas, too.
There is *often* a difference.
I know you have a friend who had a different experience & opinion.
My milage has varied. ;-)
http://www.fiddlesticksquilts.com/qu...ml#fabrictypes
http://www.quilthome.com/catalog/library.php?room=2
http://www.fabrics.net/cotqual.asp

Btw, thanks, Cindy, for the clarification on "price gouging."
Amen and amen.

with respect,
Ragmop/Sandy

"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
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They sell the same quality fabric at Wal-mart as they do at the LQS but
Wal-mart also has some cheaper, thinner, non-brand names on their sale
tables. You're only fooling yourself if you think Wal-mart quality isn't
as good as LQS. It's the same stuff.

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" Ellison" wrote in message
t...
Howdy!
Unless it's cheap, discount fabric ala Wallyworld,
you'd pay $2 (or more) per FQ at a quilt shop or quilt show.
If this seller wants to be compensated for her own time and effort,
good for her; she can set the prices wherever she pleases
(those FQs don't cut/tear themselves g).
Money talks; yours can say, "No, thanks!" ;-)

Ragmop/Sandy

My guild had a rep from Northcott give a lecture, slide and trunk show. She
answered the Walmart question. They do make a lower grade of fabric, that
is used for testing the colours and the registration of the pattern. They
make this in all the same colours and styles as their high end fabric. It
is sold to discount stores and Walmart. Also, Walmart buyers never buy the
whole line, just 3 to 5 of the fabrics in each line.
" Ellison" wrote in message
t...
Howdy!
Darlin' girl, I'll just agree to disagree on this one.
I worked in the quilt shop, talked to the sales reps,
saw the difference in the fabric quality according to
where it's sold. Checked it out myself.
Have been to the garment & decorating
warehouse district in Dallas, too.
There is *often* a difference.
I know you have a friend who had a different experience & opinion.
My milage has varied. ;-)
http://www.fiddlesticksquilts.com/qu...ml#fabrictypes
http://www.quilthome.com/catalog/library.php?room=2
http://www.fabrics.net/cotqual.asp

Btw, thanks, Cindy, for the clarification on "price gouging."
Amen and amen.

with respect,
Ragmop/Sandy

"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
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They sell the same quality fabric at Wal-mart as they do at the LQS but
Wal-mart also has some cheaper, thinner, non-brand names on their sale
tables. You're only fooling yourself if you think Wal-mart quality isn't
as good as LQS. It's the same stuff.

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" Ellison" wrote in message
t...
Howdy!
Unless it's cheap, discount fabric ala Wallyworld,
you'd pay $2 (or more) per FQ at a quilt shop or quilt show.
If this seller wants to be compensated for her own time and effort,
good for her; she can set the prices wherever she pleases
(those FQs don't cut/tear themselves g).
Money talks; yours can say, "No, thanks!" ;-)

Ragmop/Sandy

Our sun is brighter than your sun I guess : )
I still hold to what I said. I do agree that felling the
hand of the fabric really helps a lot. Every time someone
brings up thread count I wonder about all the feedsack
quilts that are still around.
Taria


SNIGDIBBLY wrote:

Nope that doesn't hold true either. I've been buying Wal-mart fabric for
years and don't find that it fades any more than the Hancocks of Peducah
fabric or the LQS fabric - unless I pour bleach on it!! LOL When I want a
particular print - I don't care where I get it - as long as it has a good
thread count and "hand" and fits the project I'm working on. I've bought
some really bad fabric from LQS and from Wal-mart alike. It's harder to
make good decisions when you buy on line and can't feel the fabric.

I changed my shipping practices after I got several complaints that the
regular packaging had gotten wet, destroyed, etc. After I started using
more packaging materials than I used successfully in the "lower 48" I
received no more complaints. I've also learned that if I use Global
Priority Mail to International buyers that it doesn't get held up for a
month or more in Customs - why??? I haven't a clue. I will still ship air
mail for international customers if they request it - but I always advise
that it will take at least 30 days to get there and that customs officials
rip open the package and aren't too nice about how they put it back
together. I try to make every one happy just because that makes me feel
good.

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"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the quick answer, Snigs. It has always been one of those
questions that make sme go Hmm. I appreciate getting a point of view from
someone doing the mailing. That being said, here is my experiences
concerning mail traveling to some of the mentioned places.

Having received mail at these places for about 15 years, I'm curious as to
why folks think this mail takes anymore of a beating than mail to anywhere
else. I have volunteered at military post offices before and am aware
that mail is dropped directly into the mailbags assigned to various
international airport hubs such as Atlanta, Boston, NYC, and St. Louis to
name a few. This is the same practice as a stateside PO uses. Mail is
then driven by truck to an airport and shipped to the distribution hub and
then flown on to the next place. Mail coming to Alaska or an APO travels
basically the same as mail going from say NYC to San Francisco. At most
APOs and Alaskan destinations, it is placed directly into drop boxes and
never even leaves the PO till the box owner picks it up. The chances for
mail to be damaged in transit is the same for mail in CONUS as it is for
APOs, FPOs and Alaska in my experience, can't say about the others as I
have never received mail in those locations.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer me and give me something to
think about. I learn much more than quilting from this great group.

Anita in cold, non-snowy Alaska


"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
newshmIf.88857$4l5.32683@dukeread05...
Can't say why others do it but I charge an extra $1 PER ORDER - NOT
ITEM - for water proofing materials. APO, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico
mail all take a real beating in transist. In order to insure safe
shipment I need to use extra packing supplies. If anyone wants to take
their chances I will be happy to drop the extra charge at their request
but it's at their own risk. Hope that helps answer your question.

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"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
I have a question concerning shipping and handling charges and I hope I
don't upset anyone with it. Why do people charge extra for post going to
Alaska, Hawaii, APO's and FPO's? All of these mailing destinations are
serviced by the US Postal Service. I am now in Alaska and have spent the
last 12 years receiving my mail at APOs and have always wondered this.

When we want to ship items to folks in CONUS (the regular 48 states) we
are not charged any extra nor is there any reason the Post Office can
find for us being charged extra to receive items at these locations.

I would appreciate any input to my ponderings. Just one of those
questions that has always bugged me. Oh to clarify, I mean on items
going Priority or regular US Mail, not heavy items. I fully understand
the reasoning behind prices when shipping computers and furniture and
the like as they often go by container service in some form or another.

Anita in Alaska wondering if the East Coast has any snow it would like
to ship up here since it seems the Spring is trying to arrive ahead of
schedule.



"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
news:bK4If.88582$4l5.32672@dukeread05...
That's exactly why I ship my FQs free. Shame on them for gouging
people on shipping cost.

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"lisa skeen" wrote in message
ink.net...
Surfing around ebay this afternoon I found a FQ I liked, but the woman
wants $2 to stick it in an envelope and mail it. I emailed her and
said she could put it in an envelope and mail it for 39 cents, could
she be more reasonable on the shipping price. She said her prices
were lower than anyone elses, and she wasn't going to lower the
shipping price.

It seems to me in the last six months or so, there have been more and
more people on ebay price gouging in the shipping department. Week
before last I calculated the shipping on a 5-ounce book via media
mail, $1.52. The guy wanted over $5 for shipping!

I can understand adding a bit in the shipping department if you have
to do a lot of packing, like I have to do for my pottery, but shoving
a FQ into an envelope, or a book even, that's a no-cost proposition
other than the postage. It's getting to the point where people want
more for shipping than you pay for the item. sigh I hate price
gougers.

--
L. P. Skeen, Summerfield NC
Organized people are just too dang lazy to look for things.

Nah!! I got Rhino hide. You can't offend me ... LOL!! My toes are too
short and stubby to be stepped on and they are well shadowed by my big
belly - HEh Heh.

Speaking of belly - it's about 15 pounds smaller than it was. I have been
really sick - wound up in the hospital for 3 days with bacterial pneumonia
and came home too soon because I made the usual ass of myself at the
hospital. I hate the places and want out as soon as possible so I throw a
hizzy fit until they let me go. Since then I have puked my socks up and
haven't been able to keep anything down until they prescribed some really
nasty tasting stuff to stop it. I started feeling better on Monday morning
and then got the call from my neice about my sister EmmaJeanne.

The good news is that I have lost 15 pounds. Now have to keep from gaining
it back.

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"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I wanted to add that I don't think an
extra dollar is outrageous or anything. I was merely curious as to the
reasoning. Hope I didn't step on any toes or offend anyone.

Anita


"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the quick answer, Snigs. It has always been one of those
questions that make sme go Hmm. I appreciate getting a point of view from
someone doing the mailing. That being said, here is my experiences
concerning mail traveling to some of the mentioned places.

Having received mail at these places for about 15 years, I'm curious as
to why folks think this mail takes anymore of a beating than mail to
anywhere else. I have volunteered at military post offices before and am
aware that mail is dropped directly into the mailbags assigned to various
international airport hubs such as Atlanta, Boston, NYC, and St. Louis to
name a few. This is the same practice as a stateside PO uses. Mail is
then driven by truck to an airport and shipped to the distribution hub
and then flown on to the next place. Mail coming to Alaska or an APO
travels basically the same as mail going from say NYC to San Francisco.
At most APOs and Alaskan destinations, it is placed directly into drop
boxes and never even leaves the PO till the box owner picks it up. The
chances for mail to be damaged in transit is the same for mail in CONUS
as it is for APOs, FPOs and Alaska in my experience, can't say about the
others as I have never received mail in those locations.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer me and give me something to
think about. I learn much more than quilting from this great group.

Anita in cold, non-snowy Alaska


"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
newshmIf.88857$4l5.32683@dukeread05...
Can't say why others do it but I charge an extra $1 PER ORDER - NOT
ITEM - for water proofing materials. APO, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico
mail all take a real beating in transist. In order to insure safe
shipment I need to use extra packing supplies. If anyone wants to take
their chances I will be happy to drop the extra charge at their request
but it's at their own risk. Hope that helps answer your question.

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SNIGDIBBLY
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"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
I have a question concerning shipping and handling charges and I hope I
don't upset anyone with it. Why do people charge extra for post going
to Alaska, Hawaii, APO's and FPO's? All of these mailing destinations
are serviced by the US Postal Service. I am now in Alaska and have
spent the last 12 years receiving my mail at APOs and have always
wondered this.

When we want to ship items to folks in CONUS (the regular 48 states) we
are not charged any extra nor is there any reason the Post Office can
find for us being charged extra to receive items at these locations.

I would appreciate any input to my ponderings. Just one of those
questions that has always bugged me. Oh to clarify, I mean on items
going Priority or regular US Mail, not heavy items. I fully understand
the reasoning behind prices when shipping computers and furniture and
the like as they often go by container service in some form or another.

Anita in Alaska wondering if the East Coast has any snow it would like
to ship up here since it seems the Spring is trying to arrive ahead of
schedule.



"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
news:bK4If.88582$4l5.32672@dukeread05...
That's exactly why I ship my FQs free. Shame on them for gouging
people on shipping cost.

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"lisa skeen" wrote in message
ink.net...
Surfing around ebay this afternoon I found a FQ I liked, but the
woman wants $2 to stick it in an envelope and mail it. I emailed her
and said she could put it in an envelope and mail it for 39 cents,
could she be more reasonable on the shipping price. She said her
prices were lower than anyone elses, and she wasn't going to lower
the shipping price.

It seems to me in the last six months or so, there have been more and
more people on ebay price gouging in the shipping department. Week
before last I calculated the shipping on a 5-ounce book via media
mail, $1.52. The guy wanted over $5 for shipping!

I can understand adding a bit in the shipping department if you have
to do a lot of packing, like I have to do for my pottery, but shoving
a FQ into an envelope, or a book even, that's a no-cost proposition
other than the postage. It's getting to the point where people want
more for shipping than you pay for the item. sigh I hate price
gougers.

--
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Organized people are just too dang lazy to look for things.

you all may remember that I got a sock monkey from ebay last year. He
cost about $4. I almost dropped my teeth when I heard that the shipping
would be $7. I've only purchased a couple of other things from ebay, so
I didn't even think to ask first. But he is a very well behaved monkey
and worth every penny.

Denise

Snigs,

Sorry to hear that you have been so sick. Hope you are on the mend quickly
and that the weight stays long gone. Who knows maybe some more will get
lonely for it and leave in search of companionship.

Take care of yourself and get plenty of rest.

Anita in Alaska where the rain and snow are making a comeback
"SNIGDIBBLY" wrote in message
news:wjGIf.90153$4l5.37165@dukeread05...
Nah!! I got Rhino hide. You can't offend me ... LOL!! My toes are too
short and stubby to be stepped on and they are well shadowed by my big
belly - HEh Heh.

Speaking of belly - it's about 15 pounds smaller than it was. I have been
really sick - wound up in the hospital for 3 days with bacterial pneumonia
and came home too soon because I made the usual ass of myself at the
hospital. I hate the places and want out as soon as possible so I throw a
hizzy fit until they let me go. Since then I have puked my socks up and
haven't been able to keep anything down until they prescribed some really
nasty tasting stuff to stop it. I started feeling better on Monday
morning and then got the call from my neice about my sister EmmaJeanne.

The good news is that I have lost 15 pounds. Now have to keep from
gaining it back.

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"Harry and Anita" wrote in message
...
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I wanted to add that I don't think an
extra dollar is outrageous or anything. I was merely curious as to the
reasoning. Hope I didn't step on any toes or offend anyone.

Anita

That's true not only with fabric. A Sunbeam toaster from WalMart is not the
same quality as a Sunbeam toaster from the hardware store or department
store. WalMart has special contracts all over the country.

Karen, Queen of Squishies

My guild had a rep from Northcott give a lecture, slide and trunk show.
She
answered the Walmart question. They do make a lower grade of fabric, that
is used for testing the colours and the registration of the pattern. They
make this in all the same colours and styles as their high end fabric. It
is sold to discount stores and Walmart. Also, Walmart buyers never buy
the
whole line, just 3 to 5 of the fabrics in each line.

Queen of Squishies wrote:
That's true not only with fabric. A Sunbeam toaster from WalMart is not the
same quality as a Sunbeam toaster from the hardware store or department
store. WalMart has special contracts all over the country.
It's a lot of the big box stores, and not just Wal-Mart. Ever try to
compare, for example, Maytag washers at Best Buy or Menards or Home
Depot with those at the local appliance store? The model numbers are
never the same, and there are just enough differences in the features
available to make it difficult to compare apples-to-apples. There may
not be a difference in quality of the product, but comparisons are still
difficult.

Julia in MN


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