a new development in Scotland

Ah, that explains a lot!! Maybe it is time
start working on the 'quiet voice' lessons
now. There is ALWAYS a new lesson required to
tame these charming little ones, and keep
them charming! One thing I've noticed was
that kids develop loud voices in day care
situations. We had that happen, and ours
never spent more that about 2 hour shifts at
the most twice a week! Happens at kiddy party
and other kiddy mob scenes, too. We'd just
remind them 'quiet voice, please!'
PAT, in VA/USA

DrQuilter wrote:

btw, she was very good until two months ago when she turned two...

Sandy Foster wrote:

Amen. We started taking our two DDs to restaurants when they were
babies ....

In article ,
DrQuilter wrote:

I didnt believe in that... thought it was just spoilt kids! )

Not usually. It's the age. The child is realizing that he/she is
separate from the parent and is trying to figure out where the limits
and boundaries are. Independence in the making.


Sandy Foster wrote:

In article ,
DrQuilter wrote:


btw, she was very good until two months ago when she turned two...



LOL! And you're surprised? Remember the "terrible-twos" -- but they
do grow out of it, at least until the girls become teenagers.




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OTOH....[this from a list of random thoughts]...

Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and when he grows
up he'll never be able to merge his car onto a freeway.

"Sally Swindells" wrote in message
...
Another thing that really gets to me are children who interrupt when
you are talking to their parents - often by jumping up and down and
pulling at parent's sleeve - the parents stop the conversation to talk
to the child (on a completely unrelated subject) while you stand there
hopefully waiting to hear the end of the story you were being told.
Absolutely no reprimand - the child is in complete charge.

Roberta Zollner wrote:

I disagree that there are different sets of manners for home -start as you
mean to go on! One's family deserves polite and respectful behavior just as
much as strangers in a restaurant. And children who are polite at home feel
no stress when out in public.
Roberta in D

I didn't say that kids should be allowed to be rude or disrespectful
at home just that they don't have to be on their *best* behaviour. Even
we adults have different sets of rules and behaviours for different
social situations.
By teaching small children just exactly WHAT the different sets of
rules are, we encourage them to be critical thinkers and look at their
surroundings to determine just which set of behaviours are the most
appropriate. Even at school, kids are expected to behave differently in
the classroom, the playground and the cafeteria. There are certain
rules that DO apply in ALL situations (there is no excuse for rudeness &
disrespect) but I don't really believe that there is just one set of
general rules for ALL situations. CiaoMeow ^;;^

Sally Swindells wrote:

Another thing that really gets to me are children who interrupt when
you are talking to their parents - often by jumping up and down and
pulling at parent's sleeve - the parents stop the conversation to talk
to the child (on a completely unrelated subject) while you stand there
hopefully waiting to hear the end of the story you were being told.
Absolutely no reprimand - the child is in complete charge.

Akk! I too hate that. Mind gets told off for it and made to wait
CHEERFULLY! Sulking is Not Allowed.

We have a friend's daughter who still does this at 18, tho she doesn't
jump up and down any more! What has always surprised me is that her
mother is a teacher, but the crowd control obviously doesn't go as far
as home!

My Goddaughter's mum turned to her once when she interrupted us and
asked: are you bleeding or dying? On being told no, GD was told: then
wait quietly until WE want to hear you! Next time, with the same
question, she said yes, naturally. We said in one voice, Then do it
quietly! She got the message. We are/were both teachers with
experience of sink schools.


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SNIGDIBBLY wrote:

What do you consider good behavior at 3 and 6 weeks of age?


Hehehehe... I wondered who might fire up at that!

Well, with James, if he got fractious at that age, I looked him right in
the eye and said: Hush, milk is on the way! and waved the bottle at him.
He was usually so hungry he just lay there, mouth open and quiet,
until I picked him up and fed him. At which he got extravagant praise
for being so good. Worked for me, but I admit, I was lucky in that even
when tiny we had a cherub that only turned into a boiled goblin if
something was seriously wrong, and not usually then. Probably happened
once a week, on average, until he started school. After that I don't
remember many mo then he started stomping off in a huff and sulking
in his room for half an hour instead. Much better - it's QUIET!

--
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
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DrQuilter wrote:

I didnt believe in that... thought it was just spoilt kids! )


Nope - even James did that at that age. Not all the time, but there
were a few rocky moments! I remember his dad taking him out of the
bakers for throwing a boiled goblin fit, me taking him out of the
supermarket, and another time almost dragging him up Faversham High
Street when he threw one about LEAVING the pub (I think he wanted to
stay there all afternoon - he's always loved pubs!)

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Jack Campin - bogus address wrote:

I don't see how somebody using a laptop should annoy anybody.... I work
in the bus with my laptop a couple of days a week and I seriously doubt
I am bothering anybody.


I once had the misfortune to share a library reading room with somebody
who was using some kind of crummy Windows machine that went bleep every
time she hit a key. I was trying to read musical scores. Can you imagine
how hard it is to hear music in your head with that in the background?
(She didn't know how to turn it off, either).

Time for the hatchet reprogramming moment...
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.katedicey.co.uk
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DH and DS and DD have never had any difficulty doing this - its me who
is the coward! We were all good boys and girls - very conformist my
family!
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On Sat, 01 Apr 2006 18:36:47 GMT, "KI Graham"
wrote:

OTOH....[this from a list of random thoughts]...

Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and when he grows
up he'll never be able to merge his car onto a freeway.

"Sally Swindells" wrote in message
.. .
Another thing that really gets to me are children who interrupt when
you are talking to their parents - often by jumping up and down and
pulling at parent's sleeve - the parents stop the conversation to talk
to the child (on a completely unrelated subject) while you stand there
hopefully waiting to hear the end of the story you were being told.
Absolutely no reprimand - the child is in complete charge.

And she's still good! She's just testing. Remember that you still know more
than she does, and you can stay a step or 2 ahead, even though it takes more
effort. She will predictably answer "no" if you give her a yes-or-no choice,
so don't. Do give her plenty of things to decide (big spoon of peas or
little spoon? red shirt or blue shirt? apple or pear?), just make sure the
choices are between things you want.
Roberta in D

"DrQuilter" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
btw, she was very good until two months ago when she turned two...

Sandy Foster wrote:

Amen. We started taking our two DDs to restaurants when they were babies
....

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