Thermal Pane

I visited with a very nice lady at Southern Glass down here at
Jacksonville a few days ago. They were using a perimeter spacer and
adding a eighth-inch plate of glass to either side, making the panes a
complete and energy-efficient window between outside and inside.

Has anybody else done this? Is there any description of the hardware
and procedure necessary to do it?

Thanks, Michael

"Michael" wrote in message
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I visited with a very nice lady at Southern Glass down here at
Jacksonville a few days ago. They were using a perimeter spacer and
adding a eighth-inch plate of glass to either side, making the panes a
complete and energy-efficient window between outside and inside.

Has anybody else done this? Is there any description of the hardware
and procedure necessary to do it?

Thanks, Michael

The materials and equimpent are available from CRLaurence. My experience is
that the manual procedure of insulating glass with SG in the middle is iffy
at best. I have my IG work done for me at a commercial glazier that has a
machine that seals the unit with heat and pressure. Plan on spending $250K
for something like that.

What were they insulating with 1/8" thick glass? Where was it installed?

Michael wrote:

I visited with a very nice lady at Southern Glass down here at
Jacksonville a few days ago. They were using a perimeter spacer and
adding a eighth-inch plate of glass to either side, making the panes a
complete and energy-efficient window between outside and inside.

Has anybody else done this? Is there any description of the hardware
and procedure necessary to do it?

Thanks, Michael


We do it all the time at our studio. If you can't figure it out you
might want to take it to a pro. You could probably do a search and find
a description. Maybe Brady can explain it to you.

Jack

Moonraker wrote:

What were they insulating with 1/8" thick glass? Where was it
installed?

They sandwiched a stained glass window, a symetrical and repeated set
of diamonds, between the 1/8" pieces using a perimeter spacer and some
type of black goo to seal them. The finished piece was between 3/4"
and an inch in thickness. I was sceptical, because I thought that
thermal windows needed a vacuum pulled on them to keep them from
getting condensation in them. She said they used a dessicant
(spelling?) and didn't have to vacuum them.

She said the work was done for a major window company (I'm thinking
Pella but wouldn't swear to it), and it was destined to be installed
in a house.

Michael

Jack wrote:

We do it all the time at our studio. If you can't figure it out you
might want to take it to a pro.

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I think I'd hesitate to do it myself, but it doesn't keep me from
being curious about the technique and the hardware. Southern Glass
said that there was somebody in Indianapolis who could do it for me.

Thanks, Michael

"Michael" wrote in message
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Moonraker wrote:

What were they insulating with 1/8" thick glass? Where was it
installed?

They sandwiched a stained glass window, a symetrical and repeated set
of diamonds, between the 1/8" pieces using a perimeter spacer and some
type of black goo to seal them. The finished piece was between 3/4"
and an inch in thickness. I was sceptical, because I thought that
thermal windows needed a vacuum pulled on them to keep them from
getting condensation in them. She said they used a dessicant
(spelling?) and didn't have to vacuum them.

She said the work was done for a major window company (I'm thinking
Pella but wouldn't swear to it), and it was destined to be installed
in a house.

Michael


I just finished a 6'-0 by 6'6" bath window that I had insulated. I used
1/4" safety glass on both sides, which is code for the application. It is
installed in a rot-free sash, and heavier than Hell. I know some of the
guys on this group go the do-it-yourself route for insulating windows. I
never have, because I have a source about 4 miles from my shop and they have
the $250K machine and make IG units 25-30 times a day. I'd rather buy a
wheel when I need one than to reinvent one.

Michael wrote:

Jack wrote:

We do it all the time at our studio. If you can't figure it out you
might want to take it to a pro.

***************
I think I'd hesitate to do it myself, but it doesn't keep me from
being curious about the technique and the hardware. Southern Glass
said that there was somebody in Indianapolis who could do it for me.

Thanks, Michael



That spacer you are talking about is the adhesive and dessicant. Comes
in rolls of various thicknesses. The black stuff is silicone. We often
install at 3000' higher elevation than we build them. We install a
capillary tube to equalize the pressure and pull it out at the installed
elevation.

Jack

" Moonraker" wrote in message
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I just finished a 6'-0 by 6'6" bath window that I had insulated. I used
1/4" safety glass on both sides, which is code for the application. It
is installed in a rot-free sash,


Man my back hurts just thinking about picking that thing up!


--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

"Michael" wrote in message
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I visited with a very nice lady at Southern Glass down here at
Jacksonville a few days ago. They were using a perimeter spacer and
adding a eighth-inch plate of glass to either side, making the panes a
complete and energy-efficient window between outside and inside.

Has anybody else done this? Is there any description of the hardware
and procedure necessary to do it?

Thanks, Michael


I hate doing it, but will if they insist. Too many future issues with
stains, thumb prints, fogging, and plain ugliness. We put plate on on the
front and install right over it if needed. Think about it.... the SG
windows that have been standing 100 years, never had any thermo pane.

--
JK Sinrod
www.SinrodStudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

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" Moonraker" wrote in message
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I just finished a 6'-0 by 6'6" bath window that I had insulated. I used
1/4" safety glass on both sides, which is code for the application. It
is installed in a rot-free sash,


Man my back hurts just thinking about picking that thing up!


Yeah..it took two real big boys to put it on my trailer. I told the builder
that is doing the remodel jobon the house where it goes that he needed two
things on Tuesday morning. Lots of help to move it off my trailer, and
$$$$. LOL