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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
Hi,
I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. I'm doing copper foil. Can the patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? I thought about paste- waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info would be great. Thanks! - Kris |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
On Jun 3, 12:03*pm, Kris Krieger wrote:
Hi, I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. *I'm doing copper foil. *Can the patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? *I thought about paste- waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info would be great. Thanks! - Kris You could wax it every now and then with something like Clarity Glass Wax but...it's my experience that overall, copperfoiled work doesn't fair all that well when left to the exposed weather. The solder seams tend to get rather ugly (oxidized) over time. |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
"Chemo the Clown" wrote in message ... On Jun 3, 12:03 pm, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. I'm doing copper foil. Can the patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? I thought about paste- waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info would be great. Thanks! - Kris You could wax it every now and then with something like Clarity Glass Wax but...it's my experience that overall, copperfoiled work doesn't fair all that well when left to the exposed weather. The solder seams tend to get rather ugly (oxidized) over time. -- since there's no seal between the glass and the foil, it's not possible to weatherproof foiled work. that's why god invented lead came with putty. |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
On Jun 3, 2:55*pm, "charlie"
wrote: "Chemo the Clown" wrote in ... On Jun 3, 12:03 pm, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. I'm doing copper foil. Can the patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? I thought about paste- waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info would be great. Thanks! - Kris You could wax it every now and then with something like Clarity Glass Wax but...it's my experience that overall, copperfoiled work doesn't fair all that well when left to the exposed weather. The solder seams tend to get rather ugly (oxidized) over time. -- since there's no seal between the glass and the foil, it's not possible to weatherproof foiled work. that's why god invented lead came with putty. Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in place and hang from one end. |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
"Chemo the Clown" wrote in message ... Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in place and hang from one end. Yeah, but you are a special sort of guy. The rest of us ain't that talented. You musta turbo-soldered that bevel in place, otherwise the water would have all boiled out. LOL |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
On Jun 3, 4:59*pm, " Moonraker" wrote:
"Chemo the Clown" wrote in message .... Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in place and hang from one end. Yeah, but you are a special sort of guy. *The rest of us ain't that talented. You musta turbo-soldered that bevel in place, otherwise the water would have all boiled out. *LOL But of course I turbo-soldered it...is there any other way? |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
"Chemo the Clown" wrote in message ... On Jun 3, 2:55 pm, "charlie" wrote: "Chemo the Clown" wrote in ... On Jun 3, 12:03 pm, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. I'm doing copper foil. Can the patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? I thought about paste- waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info would be great. Thanks! - Kris You could wax it every now and then with something like Clarity Glass Wax but...it's my experience that overall, copperfoiled work doesn't fair all that well when left to the exposed weather. The solder seams tend to get rather ugly (oxidized) over time. -- since there's no seal between the glass and the foil, it's not possible to weatherproof foiled work. that's why god invented lead came with putty. Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in place and hang from one end. -- since the solder isn't chemically attached to the glass, imho, you're depending upon the adhesive of the foil instead of really weather- or water-proofing the seam. eventually it will fail. |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
so will a cemented piece. i have made lots of garden items (in a past life)
that have held up over time. even lead oxidzes, and worse the cement falls apart. If properly designed, foiled pieces are extremely tolerant to weather, use a good polish, maybe kem-o -pro and let nature take her course. you will get oxidation on either lead or foil in time .m since the solder isn't chemically attached to the glass, imho, you're depending upon the adhesive of the foil instead of really weather- or water-proofing the seam. eventually it will fail. |
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Weatherproofing copper foil...?
On Jun 5, 7:46*pm, Kris Krieger wrote:
Chemo the Clown wrote : On Jun 3, 2:55*pm, "charlie" wrote: "Chemo the Clown" wrote in messagenews:9a52d896-8546-435d ... On Jun 3, 12:03 pm, Kris Krieger wrote: Hi, I want to make sme fixtures for outdoors. I'm doing copper foil. Can the patina and whatnot be weatherproofed in any way? I thought about paste- waxing the lead lines, or lacquering the whoel assembly, but any info would be great. Thanks! - Kris You could wax it every now and then with something like Clarity Glass Wax but...it's my experience that overall, copperfoiled work doesn't fair all that well when left to the exposed weather. The solder seams tend to get rather ugly (oxidized) over time. -- since there's no seal between the glass and the foil, it's not possible to weatherproof foiled work. that's why god invented lead came with putty. Not quite true...I've made water crystal catchers that hold water and don't leak. Basically a diamond shaped box. Before putting the last diamond on, fill with water then solder the last foiled diamond in place and hang from one end. SOunds interesting - do you have any pics posted on-line? *I'd like to see that. - Kris- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I don't have any pics of the ones I've made but they are just like these: http://www.tglass.net/Bevels.htm scroll down about half way. |
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