New Angel

Dianne Lewandowski wrote:
Statutory rape is defined as sex, even consensual sex, with an under
aged (15 in MA, 16 in NH, don't know about other states) minor. A
minor can be charged with statutory rape of a younger minor.


I said with few exceptions.

With no exceptions, Dianne. Statutory rape is not forced. You got it
wrong.

But Monika Lewinsky was nowhere near under
aged - so her sexual escapades do not fall under the category of
statutory rape by any legal definition.

But by moral definitions it does. It was sex between two people for
whom there was a huge power differential. That's immoral on the part of
the more powerful one. If a professor slept with a 25 year old student
in his or her class, would you defend the act?

Elizabeth
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In article , Dianne Lewandowski
writes:

Lewinsky may have been flattered into the relationship.

Lewinsky is reported to have said, before leaving for her internship, "I'm
going to get my Presidential knee pads". Hardly sounds like the naive young
girl who was bullied into a relationship she didn't want.

She got exactly what she set out to get. Unfortunately, she picked the wrong
friend to confide in, and then got a whole lot of what she did not expect.

And hopefully became a lesson for a whole lot of other foolish young girls who
think that you can get ahead that way, with no consequences. Working in a law
firm, I saw a lot of young girls throwing themselves at lawyers, clearly with
the intention of becoming a wife or mistress of a wealthy man, and then being
shocked when they were reprimanded (or worse).

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she thinks the book also had a brief
paragraph on each president through LBJ.
Cheryl

Hmmmmmm our history books only went through Eisenhower, the then current
president
yep I am old lolol
kathy
san antonio

Good advice! My girlfriend ended up in quite the financial
mess because of the way her father had written his will. When he
wrote it the will 'sort of' made sense, but when he actually died it
became an executor's and banks nightmare.

take care, Linda


On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:59:50 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
wrote:

Another consideration my oh so very wise lawyer posed for me several
years ago ( I noted when I visited him for signing for this place etc
and selling the other recently, that we have grown old together so to
speak) when we still had minor kids to consider - "Never seek to
control from beyond the grave". It's good advice. In instances
where I have seen the results after friends tried to do that, not
pretty most times.

Pardon me, but at age 25 I had been married 4 yrs. and had a
child, and no I don't think I was 'stupid'. If anyone was 'stupid' it
was the President, he made a very unwise decision.

take care, Linda


On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:07:43 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

See my other post.
25 is a mere child in my mind - think back to how "stupid" you were at that
age.

That behavior would get any employee fired at any decent place of work.
She's a slut if your statement is correct (and don't have any reason to
disbelieve you), but he was still wrong to
A drop his pants
B to lie and lie again under oath


Cheryl

A kin to "Statutory Rape"???? You are kidding right?

take care, Linda
(I'm feeling like I'm in the Twilight Zone)


On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 14:06:41 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

But if he told the truth, there wouldn't have been the investigation.

And, in my eyes, it was a kin to statutory rape. How old was Monica - 25 at
most? The most powerful man in the world wants her? She didn't have a
chance. How could she not, she might have lost the job. It strikes me as no
different than a boss insisting his secretary service him at lunch time.

Cheryl

On 6/22/04 1:47 PM, in article ,
"Caryn" wrote:

I really minded him taking advantage of a young girl and his abuse of power.
If the president or CEO of major corporation talked an intern in to the same
act(s), said officer would have been fired, lost his pension and the respect
of most people.

It happens all the time, some get caught, others don't. It just doesn't make
the news by being publicly investigated for years at the public's expense.

On 6/22/04 10:36 PM, in article
, "Texasxsgal1"
wrote:

she thinks the book also had a brief
paragraph on each president through LBJ.
Cheryl

Hmmmmmm our history books only went through Eisenhower, the then current
president
yep I am old lolol
kathy
san antonio
Ok - you win - you're older!
I think LBJ was still in power or Nixon had just entered office when the
books were new.
Given my son had very few textbooks this year - 6th grade - I wonder how
they are learning anything.

Cheryl

On 6/22/04 8:50 PM, in article ,
"Jenn Liace" wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:57:19 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

Interesting side note - in doing some estate planning, we found that some
"experts" are once again advising having trusts that end at the 25th
birthday instead of the 18th or 21st.

My boss (an estate planning attorney) recommends partial payouts at
25, a second at 30 (sometimes the final, sometimes the final is at
35). We're seeing a lot of "trust fund babies" among our clients'
children who grow up without learning any real sense of responsibility
when it comes to money... and one such family whose children are
calling the office on a weekly basis demanding their full payouts now
that they're 21... and never mind the taxes that have to be paid out
first or they'll never get paid at all....

Too bad you're not closer, your boss sounds like he has some sense. We're
going to another attorney in the office that handles the condo paperwork
now. She just seems young.

Cheryl

On 6/22/04 9:59 PM, in article ,
"Lucretia Borgia" wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 16:57:19 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:


Interesting side note - in doing some estate planning, we found that some
"experts" are once again advising having trusts that end at the 25th
birthday instead of the 18th or 21st.

Cheryl

Another consideration my oh so very wise lawyer posed for me several
years ago ( I noted when I visited him for signing for this place etc
and selling the other recently, that we have grown old together so to
speak) when we still had minor kids to consider - "Never seek to
control from beyond the grave". It's good advice. In instances
where I have seen the results after friends tried to do that, not
pretty most times.

I don't see waiting until age X as control, just sense. I don't think a
teenager should have control of large amounts of $$$; hopefully at 25 most
of the "wild oats" have been sown.
Cheryl

You may have grown up "early", but I've watched lots of 20-25 year olds do
some pretty foolish things; drag racing, drinking binges, join cult
religions, get visible tattoos; most kids of that age haven't had the world
slap them in the face yet.

Now - I don't know how old you are now - but, that seems young to get
married to me. I know things were different even when I was 20 ( 25 years
ago), but that was the age I made my WORST mistakes.

And yes - for a man that some how made Rhodes Scholar, he was remarkably
stupid.

On 6/23/04 2:34 AM, in article ,
"Linda D." wrote:


Pardon me, but at age 25 I had been married 4 yrs. and had a
child, and no I don't think I was 'stupid'. If anyone was 'stupid' it
was the President, he made a very unwise decision.

take care, Linda


On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 19:07:43 -0400, Cheryl Isaak
wrote:

See my other post.
25 is a mere child in my mind - think back to how "stupid" you were at that
age.

That behavior would get any employee fired at any decent place of work.
She's a slut if your statement is correct (and don't have any reason to
disbelieve you), but he was still wrong to
A drop his pants
B to lie and lie again under oath


Cheryl