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OT Election thoughts (friendly) was Happiness is
Gill Murray wrote: I know it is a no-no responding to my own post; however I remembered to change the subject line, and forgot to mark it OT. maybe the mention of stitching in the last paragraph makes it on-topic. LOL Gillian |
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Happiness is
Lucille wrote:
the women I worked for and with didn't behave like teenage ingénues when they were speaking in front of a crowd. Oh, I suppose I should add that they knew what they were talking about as well. Well, there's the difference. They knew their subject inside-out. And they probably weren't just Beauty Queen Barbies, either. This whole thing -- McCain thinking that anyone who voted for Hillary will vote for anyone with the same plumbing, regardless of anything else, and then adding insult to injury by picking someone who's clearly gotten where she's gotten by openly flirting with the 75% of Alaska's population which thinks with something other than their brain in the presence of a pretty lady -- is pushing a lot of moderate women who might have considered voting for McCain into the other column. The other night, there was an interview with someone now living in the local area who went to school with her, knows her birth family well, and his opinion was that with the governorship, she had risen as far in politics as she ever should (with undertones that even that might be more than she's capable of). I was an international relations major and *I* wouldn't want to debate Joe Biden on foreign relations. So she certainly has my sympathy on that. But she's got to realize that in the Lower 48, the male/female ratio is 50/50. She's not dealing with a supermajority of males, like she does in Alaska. And the female half of the population are being quite vocal about pointing out to our menfolk that she's all flash and no substance. (Oh, and Brian points out that "she's not all that pretty, either" -- he figures she got to be runner-up in the Miss Alaska pageant because the competition was only two girls and a polar bear.) Our last president got elected as "someone you'd like to have a beer with" and she's trying to get there the same way. I don't think she'd want to have a beer with me, though, because I'd give her a feminist lecture, heavy on the "use competence, not sexuality, to get ahead". I always figured the highest compliment my male co-workers paid me was discussing guy stuff in front of me because they "forgot" I was a girl. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com OCTOBER IS DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH Finished 9/9/08 - Butterfly Drama (Dimensions) WIP: Nativity from "Countdown to Christmas" book, Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ AOL BLOGS CLOSING OCTOBER 31 |
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Election thoughts (friendly) was Happiness is
"Gill Murray" wrote in message ... Lucille wrote: Come on Gill, admit that someone who has been around longer has a better command of how things are run. You may not agree with their ideas, but there is something to be said for years of experience. I totally agree, which is why I can't see Obama as president just yet. Switch the two guys, Obama and Biden, and we would be utilising years of experience. You and I know that we old Gows are full of wisdom and experience LOL; on occasion overflowing with it. Sheena I envy you Canadians for your system; it derives from the British one, I assume. However, the main difference is that you already HAVE a Head of State...the Queen, or her Governor General or whatever she is now called. This is the figurehead part of it. Then the PM is the political Party animal, pushing through the wishes of the majority of the electorate. You vote for your MP, and the Party selects their leader. Here the two jobs are rolled into one, so I guess that is why everyone has to have their say. I do wish elections and issues weren't smothered by months and months of sound-bites, though! many of us read and study the candidates and their policies, but they are milliions who don't get a newspaper, don't look at the news on TV (for what it is worth), and just go by hearsay and aforementioned sound-bites which they hear at work. I still thing I need a little island, where I can be Queen...everyone has built-in stitching time, some red wine and lots of chocolate! When you get that island please make room for me. You can be Queen, I'll be satisfied just to be a valued member of the court. Keep all the wine for yourself, but make sure there's a pot of coffee available at all times, day or night and I respectfully ask that the chocolate be for me too. A comfortable bed and a place for our dogs to romp around and it sounds much like heaven. And make very sure there are no elections. As queen, you can appoint anyone you like and if I don't agree I'll just poison their morning tea. Oops, that would be a better job for Lucretia, wouldn't it????? lol |
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"Karen C in California" wrote in message ... Lucille wrote: the women I worked for and with didn't behave like teenage ingénues when they were speaking in front of a crowd. Oh, I suppose I should add that they knew what they were talking about as well. Well, there's the difference. They knew their subject inside-out. And they probably weren't just Beauty Queen Barbies, either. My job was with a volunteer organization and actually the National Board was mostly made up of very well-to-do women who were very attractive and since they had lots of money to spend beautifully dressed. They also had the (I know a lot of you will hate me for this statement) edge of coming from the much more sophisticated New York Metropolitan area. |
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anne wrote:
Palin's mannerisms totally turned me off but I've asking myself if I'd accept her style if she were spouting things I agreed with. That's where the HS/college debate judge training comes in handy. Most tournaments use "switch-side", i.e., in one round you're for and in the other round you're against, so the judge doesn't know where you really stand on the issue personally. (And, believe me, my teammates got the biggest kick out of the day that I had to take the position that women can't do "anything men can do". I actually had an audience for that one!) The scoring is supposed to be solely on presentation, and there are 5 or 6 categories (which I don't recall off the top of my head) you're supposed to rate the speaker on, like needlework being judged on technique (even tension, ribbon not twisted) and not whether the judge prefers angels to teddy bears. As I said, if I'd been keeping a standard judge's score sheet on this, she'd have to handle it with asbestos gloves. The mannerisms, the constant repetition of memorized phrases, the insistence on ignoring the questions she can't answer and changing the subject to the things she does know about... I would've been writing non-stop during her answers! She was not just in over her head in debating foreign policy with Joe Biden, Resident Expert, she was in over her head in trying to debate at all. I don't care if the subject was "field dressing a moose", which she supposedly knows all about, her coach has a lot of work to do on her style before she's even ready to hit the high school debate circuit. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com OCTOBER IS DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH Finished 9/9/08 - Butterfly Drama (Dimensions) WIP: Nativity from "Countdown to Christmas" book, Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ AOL BLOGS CLOSING OCTOBER 31 |
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Lucille wrote:
"Gill Murray" wrote in message ... Bear in mind we are voting for the President, and hopefully the vice-president will just be doing the normal VP chores. President's have been assasinated in the past and/or dropped dead from a health issue so it has to be at least a consideration. A small one, but an existing one. Given McCain's age and pre-existing health problems, I heard there's a 20% chance he would not finish his term. A small chance, true, but a pretty substantial "small", as opposed to the less-than-1% that would be expected with someone in his 40s. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com OCTOBER IS DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH Finished 9/9/08 - Butterfly Drama (Dimensions) WIP: Nativity from "Countdown to Christmas" book, Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ AOL BLOGS CLOSING OCTOBER 31 |
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Sarah Palin--was Happiness is
Dawne Peterson wrote:
And you can be the same chronological age as someone while being a whole lot younger and fresher in spirit. Amen to that. My 80-year-old "boyfriend" was younger than my 45-year-old husband. And I just got the greatest compliment a couple weeks ago. I was talking on the phone to a new client, and she felt compelled to ask "you sound so young ... how much experience do you have?" Quite reassured to know that I've been in the legal field since she was in diapers. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com OCTOBER IS DISABILITY AWARENESS MONTH Finished 9/9/08 - Butterfly Drama (Dimensions) WIP: Nativity from "Countdown to Christmas" book, Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ AOL BLOGS CLOSING OCTOBER 31 |
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Karen C in California wrote:
Lucille wrote: the women I worked for and with didn't behave like teenage ingénues when they were speaking in front of a crowd. Oh, I suppose I should add that they knew what they were talking about as well. Well, there's the difference. They knew their subject inside-out. And they probably weren't just Beauty Queen Barbies, either. (snipped here) I just read Maureen Dowd's column: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/op...=1&oref=slogin Good points, I think. Folksy is one thing, but one can be folksy and still be coherent! Her poor grammar drives me batty. It doesn't sound folksy, it sounds ignorant. (One more "him and I", and I'm going to SCREAM!) Sue -- Susan Hartman/Dirty Linen The Magazine of Folk and World Music www.dirtylinen.com |
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Sarah Palin--was Happiness is
It is a pity people in the USA cannot view The Royal Canadian Air Farce.
The first show, 3 October, of what is their last season had a lovely take off of McCain and Palin. Must have lasted about 4 minutes. Absolutely proceless. Jim. "Dawne Peterson" ) writes: "Lucille" wrote "Dawne Peterson" wrote in message el... "Lucille" wrote Was anyone but me insulted by her cutesy, folksy ways and her totally ignoring Gwen Ifell as though she were a fly on the wall? Having worked for an almost 100% women's organization I can say that VERY few (that probably should read NONE) of the women I worked for and with didn't behave like teenage ingénues when they were speaking in front of a crowd. Oh, I suppose I should add that they knew what they were talking about as well. What astonished me was the newsclip of Mc Cain the next day, which consisted of "Didya see Sarah Palin last night? How about that Sarah Palin? Hah??How about her??HAH???" over and over. The cynicism of her selection amazes me--let's get a woman and women will vote for her--and McCain just seemed to be exuding that. Dawne Didn't he look exactly like a cartoon of an old geezer, which he is, when he said that? And before anyone gets angry with me for saying that, remember that I'm the same age he is and surrounded by geezers. You're right--that's what it was. An old geezer, especially those "HAaah" noises. And you can be the same chronological age as someone while being a whole lot younger and fresher in spirit. Dawne |
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Sarah Palin--was Happiness is
"F.James Cripwell" wrote in message ... It is a pity people in the USA cannot view The Royal Canadian Air Farce. The first show, 3 October, of what is their last season had a lovely take off of McCain and Palin. Must have lasted about 4 minutes. Absolutely proceless. Jim. We don't need that Jim, although from the reviews here I would love to be able to see it. We have Tina Fey "doing" Palin on Saturday Night Live. It's spot on and hilarious. "Dawne Peterson" ) writes: "Lucille" wrote "Dawne Peterson" wrote in message el... "Lucille" wrote Was anyone but me insulted by her cutesy, folksy ways and her totally ignoring Gwen Ifell as though she were a fly on the wall? Having worked for an almost 100% women's organization I can say that VERY few (that probably should read NONE) of the women I worked for and with didn't behave like teenage ingénues when they were speaking in front of a crowd. Oh, I suppose I should add that they knew what they were talking about as well. What astonished me was the newsclip of Mc Cain the next day, which consisted of "Didya see Sarah Palin last night? How about that Sarah Palin? Hah??How about her??HAH???" over and over. The cynicism of her selection amazes me--let's get a woman and women will vote for her--and McCain just seemed to be exuding that. Dawne Didn't he look exactly like a cartoon of an old geezer, which he is, when he said that? And before anyone gets angry with me for saying that, remember that I'm the same age he is and surrounded by geezers. You're right--that's what it was. An old geezer, especially those "HAaah" noises. And you can be the same chronological age as someone while being a whole lot younger and fresher in spirit. Dawne |
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