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Saving my pipes - setting up a home studio
Hi everyone!
After 2 months of stress and aching muscles, we have finally moved into our house. In the basement, I have my own room for pottery! YAY!!! There is a kitchen counter there with a kitchen sink. It would be great if I could do something so that I can use the sink to wash stuff, without clogging my pipes! We were thinking of buying some huge plastic paint buckets (10 or 20 liters) and connecting them with bits of hose, so that they would become sedimentation chambers in the counter under the sink. The reason for such small containers is that then I will be able to take them out and dump them in the garden when they are full of sediment. Someone also mentioned simply using a huge container and then dumping that in the garden when it gets gucky. Elsewhere, someone wrote about a French drain. I did a web search, but I am not able to see how this is practical for rinsing stuff that is full of clay. Another thing is, would it be an idea to fill at least one of my buckets with stones, in order to slow the sediments? Ideas and experiences would be very much appreciated! Marianne in Switzerland |
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Bubbles wrote:
Hi everyone! After 2 months of stress and aching muscles, we have finally moved into our house. In the basement, I have my own room for pottery! YAY!!! There is a kitchen counter there with a kitchen sink. It would be great if I could do something so that I can use the sink to wash stuff, without clogging my pipes! We were thinking of buying some huge plastic paint buckets (10 or 20 liters) and connecting them with bits of hose, so that they would become sedimentation chambers in the counter under the sink. The reason for such small containers is that then I will be able to take them out and dump them in the garden when they are full of sediment. Someone also mentioned simply using a huge container and then dumping that in the garden when it gets gucky. Elsewhere, someone wrote about a French drain. I did a web search, but I am not able to see how this is practical for rinsing stuff that is full of clay. Another thing is, would it be an idea to fill at least one of my buckets with stones, in order to slow the sediments? Ideas and experiences would be very much appreciated! Marianne in Switzerland Two sedimentation buckets is a good idea, although clay remains suspended fairly easily and will certainly migrate into the second bucket, though hopefully not in quantity. The simple way that I handle this is to just wash anything clay or glaze covered in a dedicated bucket of water (with sediment settling in the bottom), and only use the sink to do a final washing (in fact I don't have a sink in my workshop, to avoid the temptation to use it and gluck it up). When the bucket gets full of sediment (a couple times per year), I stir it up with a glaze stirrer and dump it. I agree that the sediment can usually be safely dumped in the garden, unless you use toxic glaze chemicals. (I try to keep all my scrap glazes for reuse, but some glaze from the tools and surfaces inevitably will end up in the glop bucket. The safer alternative to just dumping the container in your bushes is to decant the excess water off the top, and pour the glop into containers for landfill disposal. Brad Sondahl -- For original art, music, pottery, and literature, visit my homepage http://sondahl.com To reply to me directly, don't forget to take out the "garbage" from my address. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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If you are interested I've got some drawings I give to customers on
making a simple sludge trap using a storage box and a bucket and bits of plastic plumbing; dead easy, dirt cheap and it works very well. Email if you want them. Don't forget to do what it says in my email address:-) Steve Bath UK In article , Bubbles writes Hi everyone! After 2 months of stress and aching muscles, we have finally moved into our house. In the basement, I have my own room for pottery! YAY!!! There is a kitchen counter there with a kitchen sink. It would be great if I could do something so that I can use the sink to wash stuff, without clogging my pipes! We were thinking of buying some huge plastic paint buckets (10 or 20 liters) and connecting them with bits of hose, so that they would become sedimentation chambers in the counter under the sink. The reason for such small containers is that then I will be able to take them out and dump them in the garden when they are full of sediment. Someone also mentioned simply using a huge container and then dumping that in the garden when it gets gucky. Elsewhere, someone wrote about a French drain. I did a web search, but I am not able to see how this is practical for rinsing stuff that is full of clay. Another thing is, would it be an idea to fill at least one of my buckets with stones, in order to slow the sediments? Ideas and experiences would be very much appreciated! Marianne in Switzerland -- Steve Mills Bath UK |
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I forwarded those on to her via email. She declared you a genius by the by.
"Steve Mills" wrote in message ... If you are interested I've got some drawings I give to customers on making a simple sludge trap using a storage box and a bucket and bits of plastic plumbing; dead easy, dirt cheap and it works very well. Email if you want them. Don't forget to do what it says in my email address:-) Steve Bath UK In article , Bubbles writes Hi everyone! After 2 months of stress and aching muscles, we have finally moved into our house. In the basement, I have my own room for pottery! YAY!!! There is a kitchen counter there with a kitchen sink. It would be great if I could do something so that I can use the sink to wash stuff, without clogging my pipes! We were thinking of buying some huge plastic paint buckets (10 or 20 liters) and connecting them with bits of hose, so that they would become sedimentation chambers in the counter under the sink. The reason for such small containers is that then I will be able to take them out and dump them in the garden when they are full of sediment. Someone also mentioned simply using a huge container and then dumping that in the garden when it gets gucky. Elsewhere, someone wrote about a French drain. I did a web search, but I am not able to see how this is practical for rinsing stuff that is full of clay. Another thing is, would it be an idea to fill at least one of my buckets with stones, in order to slow the sediments? Ideas and experiences would be very much appreciated! Marianne in Switzerland -- Steve Mills Bath UK |
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"Steve Mills" wrote in message ... If you are interested I've got some drawings I give to customers on making a simple sludge trap using a storage box and a bucket and bits of plastic plumbing; dead easy, dirt cheap and it works very well. Email if you want them. Don't forget to do what it says in my email address:-) Hi Steve! As Dkat says, I already have those drawings - and I MEANT to cc the genius-mail to you too, but forgot! Thanks for the good drawings - that puts me on the right path! I THINK that what I will probably do is to totally avoid toxins and then to have one place to clean stuff and dump the sediment out in a hidden place in the garden - and then use the sink only to get water and do the final fine rinse of my tools etc. I should put in a trap in any case, just to be on the safe side. I think it is better, though, to dump the big bucket with lots of gudge in it often, then to have to disassemble the under-sink trap more than a couple of times a year. Am I on the right track? Marianne |
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i caution dumping the waste in the garden. while i like composting,
and dump odd stuff in the garden myself, be aware that some of the glaze materials might not be good for foods like tomatoes, peppers, etc. a friend of mine who works for the los angeles water & power tested tomatoes grown from their waste center. people always think that foods like tomatoes screen out bad chemicals as part of the growing process. it's not uncommon in much of USA to see "wild" tomatoes growing on the side of roadways placed there from waste material used to fill in trenches. i know people who like to pick these tomatoes as free-fresh food. the do taste great! the department of water & power found that since these tomatoes seeds (not digested in humans) grew. they also grew in frequently lead laced material. the tomatoes contained a high percent of this lead. now while you may not use lead, i don't know what *excess* copper, cobalt, iron, rutile, etc glaze material would do to us. i'm sure the tomatoes would pass this on to us. point is if you dump it, don't eat it later. or at least check with specialist of the affect from these materials. i found that dolomite is a great additive to insure good calcium is in the soil - aids in not having fruit fall off early. (university of florida's agricultural website) i suspect flowers on the other hand would flourish very well! see ya steve |
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"Bubbles" wrote in message ... "Steve Mills" wrote in message ... If you are interested I've got some drawings I give to customers on making a simple sludge trap using a storage box and a bucket and bits of plastic plumbing; dead easy, dirt cheap and it works very well. Email if you want them. Don't forget to do what it says in my email address:-) Hi Steve! As Dkat says, I already have those drawings - and I MEANT to cc the genius-mail to you too, but forgot! Thanks for the good drawings - that puts me on the right path! I THINK that what I will probably do is to totally avoid toxins and then to have one place to clean stuff and dump the sediment out in a hidden place in the garden - and then use the sink only to get water and do the final fine rinse of my tools etc. I should put in a trap in any case, just to be on the safe side. I think it is better, though, to dump the big bucket with lots of gudge in it often, then to have to disassemble the under-sink trap more than a couple of times a year. Am I on the right track? Marianne I actually get very little gunk in my water bucket (a five gallon plastic ex-pickle bucket). When I throw I use the generated slip for throwing and I keep a small plaster board next to my wheel that I drop excess slip and any clay I trim from the pot when throwing. This is easy to recycle. I keep multiple buckets as well. When the clay settles to the bottom of one I scoop the clean water from that bucket into another empty or clean bucket. What is left in the bucket is easy to cart up to the garden or can be recycled (dump it onto a large plaster board or keep a 'goop' bucket that the water can evaporate out of). |
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wrote in message oups.com... i caution dumping the waste in the garden. while i like composting, and dump odd stuff in the garden myself, be aware that some of the glaze materials might not be good for foods like tomatoes, peppers, etc. a friend of mine who works for the los angeles water & power tested tomatoes grown from their waste center. people always think that foods like tomatoes screen out bad chemicals as part of the growing process. it's not uncommon in much of USA to see "wild" tomatoes growing on the side of roadways placed there from waste material used to fill in trenches. i know people who like to pick these tomatoes as free-fresh food. the do taste great! the department of water & power found that since these tomatoes seeds (not digested in humans) grew. they also grew in frequently lead laced material. the tomatoes contained a high percent of this lead. now while you may not use lead, i don't know what *excess* copper, cobalt, iron, rutile, etc glaze material would do to us. i'm sure the tomatoes would pass this on to us. point is if you dump it, don't eat it later. or at least check with specialist of the affect from these materials. i found that dolomite is a great additive to insure good calcium is in the soil - aids in not having fruit fall off early. (university of florida's agricultural website) i suspect flowers on the other hand would flourish very well! see ya steve I do glaze clean up in a different bucket from my clay work but follow a similar procedure. After settling overnight or more I scoop up the clean water into the next work bucket. The gunk goes into a flat tray for the water to evaporate and put into the trash (I don't use toxic materials). And yes I have lots of 5 gallon buckets (I've done lots of sheetrocking). |
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i don't have running water in my workshop - but a garden hose outside a
ways. i use just water buckets. which works very well for throwing & minimal wash up. for glazing i rinse off at the garden hose (by the flowers, not the veggies). meanwhile i suspose a dedicated bucket for rinsing off glaze might accidently be creating a cool glaze? just a thought. see ya steve dkat wrote: wrote in message oups.com... i caution dumping the waste in the garden. while i like composting, and dump odd stuff in the garden myself, be aware that some of the glaze materials might not be good for foods like tomatoes, peppers, etc. a friend of mine who works for the los angeles water & power tested tomatoes grown from their waste center. people always think that foods like tomatoes screen out bad chemicals as part of the growing process. it's not uncommon in much of USA to see "wild" tomatoes growing on the side of roadways placed there from waste material used to fill in trenches. i know people who like to pick these tomatoes as free-fresh food. the do taste great! the department of water & power found that since these tomatoes seeds (not digested in humans) grew. they also grew in frequently lead laced material. the tomatoes contained a high percent of this lead. now while you may not use lead, i don't know what *excess* copper, cobalt, iron, rutile, etc glaze material would do to us. i'm sure the tomatoes would pass this on to us. point is if you dump it, don't eat it later. or at least check with specialist of the affect from these materials. i found that dolomite is a great additive to insure good calcium is in the soil - aids in not having fruit fall off early. (university of florida's agricultural website) i suspect flowers on the other hand would flourish very well! see ya steve I do glaze clean up in a different bucket from my clay work but follow a similar procedure. After settling overnight or more I scoop up the clean water into the next work bucket. The gunk goes into a flat tray for the water to evaporate and put into the trash (I don't use toxic materials). And yes I have lots of 5 gallon buckets (I've done lots of sheetrocking). |
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Thanks for the complements; as an inveterate do-it-yourselfer, like most
of us, promoting easy fixes is a pleasure. Mine is mounted so that it sticks out to one side, consequently I can get at it easily to clear it out (why make life any more difficult than it already is!). Steve Bath UK In article , Bubbles writes "Steve Mills" wrote in message ... If you are interested I've got some drawings I give to customers on making a simple sludge trap using a storage box and a bucket and bits of plastic plumbing; dead easy, dirt cheap and it works very well. Email if you want them. Don't forget to do what it says in my email address:-) Hi Steve! As Dkat says, I already have those drawings - and I MEANT to cc the genius-mail to you too, but forgot! Thanks for the good drawings - that puts me on the right path! I THINK that what I will probably do is to totally avoid toxins and then to have one place to clean stuff and dump the sediment out in a hidden place in the garden - and then use the sink only to get water and do the final fine rinse of my tools etc. I should put in a trap in any case, just to be on the safe side. I think it is better, though, to dump the big bucket with lots of gudge in it often, then to have to disassemble the under-sink trap more than a couple of times a year. Am I on the right track? Marianne -- Steve Mills Bath UK |
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