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Lucille , i would never advice to break out of road regulations ,,,,,
But needlework isn`t the road , if you `break` the `law` nobody will get harmed ,, only some old fashioned Accepted Rules ,,, one lady quite known for her textile works , came into my solo in Ein Harod Museum ,,, and said ,, " How DARE you mix embroidery weaving , crochet etc,,, ? " I wondered waht the term DARE made there at all ,, I honestly told her i felt that this was the way it should have been done ...." she raised her Nose,,, and said " You are a Shame to every textile worker !!!!!" 4 months later , at least 1000 visitors in organized groups , and 100s in non organized groups , when my exhibition , broke the doors of ignorring fiberart , and all newspapers `suddenly` started to write about Other fiberart events as well,,,, she admitted , that maybe My `scandalous` work did aome good to all ..... Nothin g scandalous about my work , i am an artist that happened to choose fiber as my medium ,,, I use the techniques for my expression , as my Pallette , i don`t let the techniques control me. Thus since there are No rules anymore .... just spill your thoughts and feelings on the cloth you have ... it will come ... mirjam ... On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:55:03 -0500, "Lucille" wrote: What a nice way this would be to break free for those among us who are afraid to do their own thing. I'm one of those people. Although I know it's silly, I agonize over having to change something on a needlework piece. My first thought is if the designer wanted me to do my own thing she/he would have said so. I do change small things some of the time, but it takes a lot of angst to do it. Lucille "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Dianne , i think we were `dancing` around this subjevt every several months on this group ,.... I believe every person has a story to tell and his / her own way to do it ..... maybe one should let go of some of 'You Must do it THIS way and not That way attidtude ???" Maybe really listening to those who come with another culture = thus other point of view , might open up your ability to BE YOU Dianne ,,,, This onece in ages person ,,,, take all those wonderful techniques you know so well .... take a piece of cloth ..... and Embroider DIANNE not the portret but the concept .... Just Embroider you name ,,,,birth date , other important dates in you life ,, you kid`s names etc,,, see where this leads you ,, choose a specail color for each person and each date ,,,, See where this leads you .... mirjam : I think more than a few of us need a "directed" push. We can't look at a plain canvas and do it. And even if we *can* put *something* on that plain canvas, it ends up being trite. That may not be the right word. More akin to: been there, done that, nothing original. How I wish there was some way I could get into a fiber class that demanded of us in such a way that - sweat pouring down brow - it could eek out my inner self. Watching this conversation: Yesterday I looked at a piece I'm doing, and I noticed the petals in the flower. I definitely have my "own way" of drawing, but I don't know how to break out and make it really say something. Everytime I look at it, I think: Oh, but artists do it so much better. I *know* that's not exactly true in the deepest sense, but that's a tape recorder that's hard to overcome. Dianne lula wrote: Hi Anne, As I figured, you're a very creative stitcher......just needing a few pointers in the right direction now and then! We all benefit from these creative "pushes" from others periodically. It's wonderful that you're going to continue to do more fun characters......those names you title them with add that extra bit of fun to the imagination! Like having a cherry added on top! Have you thought of making these embroideries into three dimensional figures such as cloth "dolls"? I literally dance around with joy whenever I come up with a workable new over the top character........it's a major accomplishment being able to capture the just right expressions of these "funny" faces on gridded canvas. Today, I decided to stitch a model of Madame La Zora & Co, the over the top fortune teller with her cat companions......she's the gleeful lady on the front page of web site...... The only negative is my canvas to stitch is not the beautifully painted model I did earlier but only a blank canvas that I outlined verey lightly with a micron pen.......so pretty much, I'm stitching and designing as I go...... I've already frogged a few inches of stitching in the short time I was stitching. One can't be faint hearted to "frog" if one wants to capture the just right expression of the faces, especially the eyes! These details makes or breaks my whole design as my work depends heavily on expressive lines. The fun part was filling a large basket full of pretty colors and textures of whatever threads I might need to create my "masterpiece" model! This needlepoint of Madame La Zora & Co is my "work" stitching......my FUN stitching is to be an embroidery, a really fun piece titled More Bitch than Stitch.....there's a computer screen with little puffs of smoke and tiny flames shooting out......have already done a fun sketch of the project so far. I'd like to intergrate humorous text using decorative fonts into the design along with all sorts of fun embellishments and so on. --- Lula http://www.woolydream.com Needlework Adventures anne wrote: lula said Hmmmm, where did I get this feeling you weren't exactly going for the ladylike, elegant look for your fan design? I may surprise us both and buy some fancy threads for that fan one of these days. There's a gorgeous design, complete with how to's in a book that I'm too lazy to go upstairs to get the name of. Before attempting that project, I need to practise laying down an evenly spaced trellis. hahaha, thanks to you, I decided to let my imagination go and have some real fun creating my next embroidery. ooooooh, I can't wait to see what an real artiste comes up with One doesn't need to use shading to add depth to a design........you can use pattern to add depth, for example doing a check border in an area, in another, do some stripes, then add some dots, these patterns can be in bright colors or subdued by using more pastel and close colors . Many artists will use pattern instead of just shading their artwork to add depth to their work. I'm slowly coming to realize that I don't need to recreate the original exactly or duplicate the intricate color schemes of cross stitch charts to create something that pleases me. FYI, my WIP began life as Clementine Clothcollector in a red dress and a blue hat. She's morphed into Velma Vacationer with a red hat and turquoise dress ;-) -- another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply |
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Anne !!!!
sloppy ????and who exactly says that ??? iYears ago i embroidered a work showing the "lights of Haifa " , as i saw it when we came back from the north , [ Haifa is a mountain city] , over time i saw that night lights vary from white to Orange ,,, i used sewing threads , embroidery threads , hand and some machine stiches ..on a heavy black Silk ,,,I offered it to participate in an exhibition about "light".... the curating lady said ,, " one can see you made it when you didn`t know how to embroider !!!! i smiled said nothing ,, Lately the work was chosen abs shown in Indiana South Bend University ,, Same curator was `surprrised ` to hear it was chosen ,,,, as "we both know it isn`t a good work!!!" Same as first time i smiled ,, It is not my problem that she has a Set mind about how work should be done !!! others think otherway.... But i have to tell you that you have to set some of your own rules about you work ,, and follow them ... mirjam You may worry about changing things but I worry that my stitching is 'sloppy'. On the other hand, those 'imperfections' add character. Fly -- be free ;-) -- another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply |
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You're right Mirjam and I shouldn't try for perfect every time. But it's
hard to do, even when you know it's not that important to be exact. Every so often I do break out and do something that does mix things like a tablecloth with embroidery and crocheted doilies and patchwork spots, so I do try. Lucille "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Lucille , i would never advice to break out of road regulations ,,,,, But needlework isn`t the road , if you `break` the `law` nobody will get harmed ,, only some old fashioned Accepted Rules ,,, one lady quite known for her textile works , came into my solo in Ein Harod Museum ,,, and said ,, " How DARE you mix embroidery weaving , crochet etc,,, ? " I wondered waht the term DARE made there at all ,, I honestly told her i felt that this was the way it should have been done ...." she raised her Nose,,, and said " You are a Shame to every textile worker !!!!!" 4 months later , at least 1000 visitors in organized groups , and 100s in non organized groups , when my exhibition , broke the doors of ignorring fiberart , and all newspapers `suddenly` started to write about Other fiberart events as well,,,, she admitted , that maybe My `scandalous` work did aome good to all ..... Nothin g scandalous about my work , i am an artist that happened to choose fiber as my medium ,,, I use the techniques for my expression , as my Pallette , i don`t let the techniques control me. Thus since there are No rules anymore .... just spill your thoughts and feelings on the cloth you have ... it will come ... mirjam ... On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:55:03 -0500, "Lucille" wrote: What a nice way this would be to break free for those among us who are afraid to do their own thing. I'm one of those people. Although I know it's silly, I agonize over having to change something on a needlework piece. My first thought is if the designer wanted me to do my own thing she/he would have said so. I do change small things some of the time, but it takes a lot of angst to do it. Lucille "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Dianne , i think we were `dancing` around this subjevt every several months on this group ,.... I believe every person has a story to tell and his / her own way to do it ..... maybe one should let go of some of 'You Must do it THIS way and not That way attidtude ???" Maybe really listening to those who come with another culture = thus other point of view , might open up your ability to BE YOU Dianne ,,,, This onece in ages person ,,,, take all those wonderful techniques you know so well .... take a piece of cloth ..... and Embroider DIANNE not the portret but the concept .... Just Embroider you name ,,,,birth date , other important dates in you life ,, you kid`s names etc,,, see where this leads you ,, choose a specail color for each person and each date ,,,, See where this leads you .... mirjam : I think more than a few of us need a "directed" push. We can't look at a plain canvas and do it. And even if we *can* put *something* on that plain canvas, it ends up being trite. That may not be the right word. More akin to: been there, done that, nothing original. How I wish there was some way I could get into a fiber class that demanded of us in such a way that - sweat pouring down brow - it could eek out my inner self. Watching this conversation: Yesterday I looked at a piece I'm doing, and I noticed the petals in the flower. I definitely have my "own way" of drawing, but I don't know how to break out and make it really say something. Everytime I look at it, I think: Oh, but artists do it so much better. I *know* that's not exactly true in the deepest sense, but that's a tape recorder that's hard to overcome. Dianne lula wrote: Hi Anne, As I figured, you're a very creative stitcher......just needing a few pointers in the right direction now and then! We all benefit from these creative "pushes" from others periodically. It's wonderful that you're going to continue to do more fun characters......those names you title them with add that extra bit of fun to the imagination! Like having a cherry added on top! Have you thought of making these embroideries into three dimensional figures such as cloth "dolls"? I literally dance around with joy whenever I come up with a workable new over the top character........it's a major accomplishment being able to capture the just right expressions of these "funny" faces on gridded canvas. Today, I decided to stitch a model of Madame La Zora & Co, the over the top fortune teller with her cat companions......she's the gleeful lady on the front page of web site...... The only negative is my canvas to stitch is not the beautifully painted model I did earlier but only a blank canvas that I outlined verey lightly with a micron pen.......so pretty much, I'm stitching and designing as I go...... I've already frogged a few inches of stitching in the short time I was stitching. One can't be faint hearted to "frog" if one wants to capture the just right expression of the faces, especially the eyes! These details makes or breaks my whole design as my work depends heavily on expressive lines. The fun part was filling a large basket full of pretty colors and textures of whatever threads I might need to create my "masterpiece" model! This needlepoint of Madame La Zora & Co is my "work" stitching......my FUN stitching is to be an embroidery, a really fun piece titled More Bitch than Stitch.....there's a computer screen with little puffs of smoke and tiny flames shooting out......have already done a fun sketch of the project so far. I'd like to intergrate humorous text using decorative fonts into the design along with all sorts of fun embellishments and so on. --- Lula http://www.woolydream.com Needlework Adventures anne wrote: lula said Hmmmm, where did I get this feeling you weren't exactly going for the ladylike, elegant look for your fan design? I may surprise us both and buy some fancy threads for that fan one of these days. There's a gorgeous design, complete with how to's in a book that I'm too lazy to go upstairs to get the name of. Before attempting that project, I need to practise laying down an evenly spaced trellis. hahaha, thanks to you, I decided to let my imagination go and have some real fun creating my next embroidery. ooooooh, I can't wait to see what an real artiste comes up with One doesn't need to use shading to add depth to a design........you can use pattern to add depth, for example doing a check border in an area, in another, do some stripes, then add some dots, these patterns can be in bright colors or subdued by using more pastel and close colors . Many artists will use pattern instead of just shading their artwork to add depth to their work. I'm slowly coming to realize that I don't need to recreate the original exactly or duplicate the intricate color schemes of cross stitch charts to create something that pleases me. FYI, my WIP began life as Clementine Clothcollector in a red dress and a blue hat. She's morphed into Velma Vacationer with a red hat and turquoise dress ;-) -- another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply |
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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen said
Anne !!!! sloppy ????and who exactly says that ??? iYears ago i embroidered a work showing the "lights of Haifa " , as i saw it when we came back from the north , [ Haifa is a mountain city] , over time i saw that night lights vary from white to Orange ,,, i used sewing threads , embroidery threads , hand and some machine stiches ..on a heavy black Silk ,,,I offered it to participate in an exhibition about "light".... the curating lady said ,, " one can see you made it when you didn`t know how to embroider !!!! i smiled said nothing ,, Lately the work was chosen abs shown in Indiana South Bend University ,, Same curator was `surprrised ` to hear it was chosen ,,,, as "we both know it isn`t a good work!!!" Same as first time i smiled ,, It is not my problem that she has a Set mind about how work should be done !!! others think otherway.... But i have to tell you that you have to set some of your own rules about you work ,, and follow them ... My work would be deemed 'sloppy' by the stitching police g. I'm a bit of a perfectionist myself but agonize over the overall look more than minute details. I've got a snippet of fake fur wool that I got from a floor demonstrator at AC Moore. I'm thinking that the fake fur could be used to add additional interest to my whimisical stitching but am not sure how the 'thread' will handle going in and out of the fabric, or if what I call 'tails', the little fuzzy appendages, will display. If it works, it'll beat the heck out of painstakingly turkey stitching areas. p.s. I've got many fond memories of my two trips to Israel -- another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply |
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When I was in Victoria on spring break, I saw some very charming little
embroidery kits by Jennifer Pudney, who is, I think, a New Zealand designer?? She has done needlepoint kits, and I bought one of her kits for children, which are marketted as Crafty Dog, to keep company with my hostess, who was hemstitching some napkins. (my choice was a design called Drama Queen) I love her stuff because it is modern, bright, and has woman-centered themes--women reading, dancing, having tea etc. They have humour without being "precious" or cutsey. Her embroidery kits are worked on felt. The outlines are printed on. While I wondered if the designs were too small for a beginning embroiderer, the other side of that is they would stitch up quite quickly. Dawne |
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Anne I here By Free you of the stiching police On Wed, 24 Mar 2004
They have been Out lawd!!!!! mirjam ps where did you visit i live in HAIFA ,,, My work would be deemed 'sloppy' by the stitching police g. I'm a bit of a perfectionist myself but agonize over the overall look more than minute details. I've got a snippet of fake fur wool that I got from a floor demonstrator at AC Moore. I'm thinking that the fake fur could be used to add additional interest to my whimisical stitching but am not sure how the 'thread' will handle going in and out of the fabric, or if what I call 'tails', the little fuzzy appendages, will display. If it works, it'll beat the heck out of painstakingly turkey stitching areas. p.s. I've got many fond memories of my two trips to Israel -- another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply |
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Hee Lucille ,, and who exactly is persfect???? look at the world ...
anything persfect there ??? or nature ?? if you look varefuly , even your hands aren`t 100 % the same ,,,, so whi cares about persfect ,, on the contrary when we create someting from our heart and fills a gap in our soul THAT is perfecting a part of us ..... mirjam On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:27:15 -0500, "Lucille" wrote: You're right Mirjam and I shouldn't try for perfect every time. But it's hard to do, even when you know it's not that important to be exact. Every so often I do break out and do something that does mix things like a tablecloth with embroidery and crocheted doilies and patchwork spots, so I do try. Lucille "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Lucille , i would never advice to break out of road regulations ,,,,, But needlework isn`t the road , if you `break` the `law` nobody will get harmed ,, only some old fashioned Accepted Rules ,,, one lady quite known for her textile works , came into my solo in Ein Harod Museum ,,, and said ,, " How DARE you mix embroidery weaving , crochet etc,,, ? " I wondered waht the term DARE made there at all ,, I honestly told her i felt that this was the way it should have been done ...." she raised her Nose,,, and said " You are a Shame to every textile worker !!!!!" 4 months later , at least 1000 visitors in organized groups , and 100s in non organized groups , when my exhibition , broke the doors of ignorring fiberart , and all newspapers `suddenly` started to write about Other fiberart events as well,,,, she admitted , that maybe My `scandalous` work did aome good to all ..... Nothin g scandalous about my work , i am an artist that happened to choose fiber as my medium ,,, I use the techniques for my expression , as my Pallette , i don`t let the techniques control me. Thus since there are No rules anymore .... just spill your thoughts and feelings on the cloth you have ... it will come ... mirjam ... On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:55:03 -0500, "Lucille" wrote: What a nice way this would be to break free for those among us who are afraid to do their own thing. I'm one of those people. Although I know it's silly, I agonize over having to change something on a needlework piece. My first thought is if the designer wanted me to do my own thing she/he would have said so. I do change small things some of the time, but it takes a lot of angst to do it. Lucille "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Dianne , i think we were `dancing` around this subjevt every several months on this group ,.... I believe every person has a story to tell and his / her own way to do it ..... maybe one should let go of some of 'You Must do it THIS way and not That way attidtude ???" Maybe really listening to those who come with another culture = thus other point of view , might open up your ability to BE YOU Dianne ,,,, This onece in ages person ,,,, take all those wonderful techniques you know so well .... take a piece of cloth ..... and Embroider DIANNE not the portret but the concept .... Just Embroider you name ,,,,birth date , other important dates in you life ,, you kid`s names etc,,, see where this leads you ,, choose a specail color for each person and each date ,,,, See where this leads you .... mirjam : I think more than a few of us need a "directed" push. We can't look at a plain canvas and do it. And even if we *can* put *something* on that plain canvas, it ends up being trite. That may not be the right word. More akin to: been there, done that, nothing original. How I wish there was some way I could get into a fiber class that demanded of us in such a way that - sweat pouring down brow - it could eek out my inner self. Watching this conversation: Yesterday I looked at a piece I'm doing, and I noticed the petals in the flower. I definitely have my "own way" of drawing, but I don't know how to break out and make it really say something. Everytime I look at it, I think: Oh, but artists do it so much better. I *know* that's not exactly true in the deepest sense, but that's a tape recorder that's hard to overcome. Dianne lula wrote: Hi Anne, As I figured, you're a very creative stitcher......just needing a few pointers in the right direction now and then! We all benefit from these creative "pushes" from others periodically. It's wonderful that you're going to continue to do more fun characters......those names you title them with add that extra bit of fun to the imagination! Like having a cherry added on top! Have you thought of making these embroideries into three dimensional figures such as cloth "dolls"? I literally dance around with joy whenever I come up with a workable new over the top character........it's a major accomplishment being able to capture the just right expressions of these "funny" faces on gridded canvas. Today, I decided to stitch a model of Madame La Zora & Co, the over the top fortune teller with her cat companions......she's the gleeful lady on the front page of web site...... The only negative is my canvas to stitch is not the beautifully painted model I did earlier but only a blank canvas that I outlined verey lightly with a micron pen.......so pretty much, I'm stitching and designing as I go...... I've already frogged a few inches of stitching in the short time I was stitching. One can't be faint hearted to "frog" if one wants to capture the just right expression of the faces, especially the eyes! These details makes or breaks my whole design as my work depends heavily on expressive lines. The fun part was filling a large basket full of pretty colors and textures of whatever threads I might need to create my "masterpiece" model! This needlepoint of Madame La Zora & Co is my "work" stitching......my FUN stitching is to be an embroidery, a really fun piece titled More Bitch than Stitch.....there's a computer screen with little puffs of smoke and tiny flames shooting out......have already done a fun sketch of the project so far. I'd like to intergrate humorous text using decorative fonts into the design along with all sorts of fun embellishments and so on. --- Lula http://www.woolydream.com Needlework Adventures anne wrote: lula said Hmmmm, where did I get this feeling you weren't exactly going for the ladylike, elegant look for your fan design? I may surprise us both and buy some fancy threads for that fan one of these days. There's a gorgeous design, complete with how to's in a book that I'm too lazy to go upstairs to get the name of. Before attempting that project, I need to practise laying down an evenly spaced trellis. hahaha, thanks to you, I decided to let my imagination go and have some real fun creating my next embroidery. ooooooh, I can't wait to see what an real artiste comes up with One doesn't need to use shading to add depth to a design........you can use pattern to add depth, for example doing a check border in an area, in another, do some stripes, then add some dots, these patterns can be in bright colors or subdued by using more pastel and close colors . Many artists will use pattern instead of just shading their artwork to add depth to their work. I'm slowly coming to realize that I don't need to recreate the original exactly or duplicate the intricate color schemes of cross stitch charts to create something that pleases me. FYI, my WIP began life as Clementine Clothcollector in a red dress and a blue hat. She's morphed into Velma Vacationer with a red hat and turquoise dress ;-) -- another Anne, add ingers to frugalf to reply |
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anne wrote:
I've got a snippet of fake fur wool that I got from a floor demonstrator at AC Moore. I'm thinking that the fake fur could be used to add additional interest to my whimisical stitching but am not sure how the 'thread' will handle going in and out of the fabric, or if what I call 'tails', the little fuzzy appendages, will display. If it works, it'll beat the heck out of painstakingly turkey stitching areas. Couching? Perhaps with matching sewing thread? Monday morning, I was perusing a very old needlework book (1911) and found some directions for "plush stitch". Of course, as usual, these old books don't have much in the way of graphical how-to's. You learned back then mostly by written word - which often didn't match with an accompanying graphic. Anyway, "plush stitch" is made by filling a motif with Fr. knots - but not *too* closely. Then cut pieces of floss the eventual height you want, and cross them (like an X) in between the knots and sew them down. When finished, you brush them to fluff. I should really get the text and type it out. It was a stitch (pardon the pun) to read. No, there is nothing really new under the sun. But as I read that, I was thinking how much easier turkey (or velvet) stitch would have been! I want to try this just to see how it looks, but haven't had time. Dianne |
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