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Gosh Mirjam, I am quite out of breath reading all this....lol well done you
hugz cher and birthday greetings from me too, didn't know I'd missed it.. "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... C H E R !!!!! hahahahh as Usual you are hilarious .... Yesterday as the Inciator of the Seminar called to wish me Happy holiday ,,, The seminar is called"Pain of Flash and Blood ", An Interdisciplinary conferece about the representation of the ill, the suffering and the delighting body" . I want to go at least 1 day, There will be pschologists, poets, artists [5 exhibtions by artists who are dealing with their ailments or in general about suffer ++] Linguists , writers , a film about a Girl who has to live in some sort of contraption, philoshers etc... I want to go , am pushed for my time, [ anyway have to travel by train 2 hours to and and back] , and know from experience that sitting like this a whole day, with my hands not doing much, isn`t me. I can listen and make some of the Long stichings i do [on the big work] Or knit [ my son wants a second Moebious] . But In israeli Seminars etc,,,,It isn`t done ,,,, After years of women in the Kiboets General Assemblies knitting ... suddenly it became a no no ... I realy want to do it ,,,, And as i presented it to the Inciator yesterday , for me it is one of the Pleasures of the Flesh ,,,, [ he said he doesn`t mind me doing it, in fact he said he could be a Living Show . I Said , you know people will look at me , He said he doesn`t mind, and said why don`t i suggest it to some other colleagues who are coming., in fact i had a feeling he likes me to do it .. So now i will think and prepare a work i can do without much fuss [ just long technical No counting work .] i will prepare to have one of mine ready , i can take it and always Not do it if circumstances aren`t suitable. Of course there will always be somebdy saying I am doing it for attention , but i am really short for time and it helps me to concentrate on the lectures , whose subjects are`t easy , and when pics are shown i can stop ... mirjam |
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That's great Mirjam, well we take to the old steam trains that slide
through Dorset, from Corfe Castle through to Somerset and back again, a great friend of mine, gets you all to board with a spinning wheel and you sit and spin and chat to sight seers, and let them have a go too...great fun apparently, I've not done it yet but plan to this year..lol hugz Cher "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Well Aaron , A "Woman knitting Over there !!! is usually not so kindly meant , now adays , i think that is one thing That the Feministic movement failed, It used to be the Acepted thing to knit, or handcraft [ Idel habds etc,,,,] Than Suddenly it became unacceted or a something only "primitive women did !!! Educated women Didn`t !!!!" .I am getting so many people reacting to my knitting on trains , busses , Waiting rooms , etc,,,,, that i know it is an odity ,,,, Almost like Breast feeding in public, Used to be done only by "Primitive women" than became Done by all who felt like doing it. Nobody now in Westen world would say a woman breast feeding is Primitive ..... So i really feel it is time Public knitting or crafting should be accepted again. The last woman who commented to me about this being "primitive" , got an answer that my clothes Primitively better looking than her`s ,,,, i am loosing ,my patience for all the strange remarks of people ,,,, who don`t mind other writing on their laptops, or listening to music , or phoning with half the world talking about Personal stuff in public ... If this is tolerated , why isn`t my handcrafting tolerated ..... As to fellows saying something about Knitting Men ? well it is still an odity ,,, Do it more and spread the Stiches mirjam I have heard blokes say, ''blimey, there's a woman knitting over there!'' However, usually the tone when they say that is not as bad as when they say ''BLIMEY, there's a MAN knitting over there!!!'', which is what I hear more often : ) Aaron "spinninglilac" wrote in message o.uk... Hi Mirjam, I took some sock knitting to the pub a couple of times, if I can get the seat near the door, where it isn't so smokey, and once I heard a guy say to his friend at the bar, ''blimey, theres a woman knitting over there!'' so I went to him and said, ''you're knowledge astounds me, that you know what I am doing, a pity you seem to lack tact, however, no matter, would you like to come and learn!'' he looked at me as if I'd gone mad, and Don the landlord, grinned,and said, ''she does many a weird and wonderful thing in a pub, wait til next week, come and see what she's doing then!'' Meaning I was booked to entertain there and this guy obviously had never seen me perform, but he turned up, and of course I ''got'' at him all night, now we are very good friends. He isn't very old, but I feel he's been educated, in tact if nothing else.. hugz cher "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Cher and Katherine , I ALWAYS take some work with me , whenm i travel anywhere and esp when i travel to Belgium ,,, My Aquaintances who wonder , where i have the time to have knitted or embroidered `ALL THIS THINGS` , are surprised to hear i do it on those `moments in between`,,, in the airport in the bus , in the morning at my father`s house Before he gets up , on his pace, or in the evenings when he goes earlier to bed... Never mind how much i make ,,,,, "A stich + A Stich = A row + Row and before you know it , i have an other nice item.....I also go to some conventions, and i really hate this long Listening to lectures that sometimes, as interesting as they are , make me sleepy or edgy ,,, my hand could knit or embroider but people Look at me with THIS LOOK , same people don`t hesitate to Talk in Half Loud voices which are far more disruptive to other than my quiet knitting ... I am really seriously considering starting to knit/embroider again in public ,,,,, mirjam They'll laugh the other side of their faces when you produce the wonderful items that you do... hugz cher have a great time... |
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A long history of knitting in public, was Help with old english knitting directions
As I work with LONG fine steel needles, I come to understand why knitting in
public was discouraged. Long ago, much knitting was done on long steel knitting needles. I would not want to sit next to someone that was knitting fast and furiously with long steel needles. It would be like sitting next to someone that had a pair of mating porcupines on their lap. Now, I suspect the blokes that made comments about my knitting on the train in GB had sat next to their grandmothers as children; and had been poked by the DPN as their grandmothers knit jumpers. Those blokes probably had good reason to think there was something rude about knitting in public. On the other hand, Californians do not make comments about my knitting, because as children, they never had to sit next to flailing DPN. Moreover, in the old days, yarn may not have been so clean. Sheep farms and wool mills were not traditionally clean places, and who knew where the yarn had been. Working with yarn of unknown cleanliness in a pub around food and drink, or leaving lint in public spaces would have not make knitters too popular. But, now we have circular needles and single point flexible needles, so public safety is not so much an issue. Now, we have cleaner yarns. So I no longer see valid reasons for not knitting in public. But, I do understand the cultural bias against knitting in public. There was a time when it had a practical basis. Aaron "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Well Aaron , A "Woman knitting Over there !!! is usually not so kindly meant , now adays , i think that is one thing That the Feministic movement failed, It used to be the Acepted thing to knit, or handcraft [ Idel habds etc,,,,] Than Suddenly it became unacceted or a something only "primitive women did !!! Educated women Didn`t !!!!" .I am getting so many people reacting to my knitting on trains , busses , Waiting rooms , etc,,,,, that i know it is an odity ,,,, Almost like Breast feeding in public, Used to be done only by "Primitive women" than became Done by all who felt like doing it. Nobody now in Westen world would say a woman breast feeding is Primitive ..... So i really feel it is time Public knitting or crafting should be accepted again. The last woman who commented to me about this being "primitive" , got an answer that my clothes Primitively better looking than her`s ,,,, i am loosing ,my patience for all the strange remarks of people ,,,, who don`t mind other writing on their laptops, or listening to music , or phoning with half the world talking about Personal stuff in public ... If this is tolerated , why isn`t my handcrafting tolerated ..... As to fellows saying something about Knitting Men ? well it is still an odity ,,, Do it more and spread the Stiches mirjam I have heard blokes say, ''blimey, there's a woman knitting over there!'' However, usually the tone when they say that is not as bad as when they say ''BLIMEY, there's a MAN knitting over there!!!'', which is what I hear more often : ) Aaron "spinninglilac" wrote in message .uk... Hi Mirjam, I took some sock knitting to the pub a couple of times, if I can get the seat near the door, where it isn't so smokey, and once I heard a guy say to his friend at the bar, ''blimey, theres a woman knitting over there!'' so I went to him and said, ''you're knowledge astounds me, that you know what I am doing, a pity you seem to lack tact, however, no matter, would you like to come and learn!'' he looked at me as if I'd gone mad, and Don the landlord, grinned,and said, ''she does many a weird and wonderful thing in a pub, wait til next week, come and see what she's doing then!'' Meaning I was booked to entertain there and this guy obviously had never seen me perform, but he turned up, and of course I ''got'' at him all night, now we are very good friends. He isn't very old, but I feel he's been educated, in tact if nothing else.. hugz cher "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Cher and Katherine , I ALWAYS take some work with me , whenm i travel anywhere and esp when i travel to Belgium ,,, My Aquaintances who wonder , where i have the time to have knitted or embroidered `ALL THIS THINGS` , are surprised to hear i do it on those `moments in between`,,, in the airport in the bus , in the morning at my father`s house Before he gets up , on his pace, or in the evenings when he goes earlier to bed... Never mind how much i make ,,,,, "A stich + A Stich = A row + Row and before you know it , i have an other nice item.....I also go to some conventions, and i really hate this long Listening to lectures that sometimes, as interesting as they are , make me sleepy or edgy ,,, my hand could knit or embroider but people Look at me with THIS LOOK , same people don`t hesitate to Talk in Half Loud voices which are far more disruptive to other than my quiet knitting ... I am really seriously considering starting to knit/embroider again in public ,,,,, mirjam They'll laugh the other side of their faces when you produce the wonderful items that you do... hugz cher have a great time... |
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Aaron,
There may be a generation gap, but when I grew up, everyone knitted in the train or tram, or bus. When you see the Agatha Christie movies, no matter who has the lead role, all the Miss Marples knitted where ever they went. It was very common, in Europe that knitting was done in public. I am talking about 1920- 1930- 1940 etc. There may have been a period that there was not that much knitting going on 1980, however I still think that there was a solid core of knitters at all times. I moved to Toronto in 1957, at 21 years old. The subways were build during that time and when I traveled, on the subway, streetcar, and bus, I would see the same European woman knit or crochet, having the ball of yarn sitting in a bag on their laps. When knitting was done with (unwashed ??? homespun yarn, as you relate) I would think that public travel was not as common, and that we are talking a much earlier timespan, when yarns where not mass produced. Wool mills may have been dirty places, but I am sure that the fibers where always washed before they were processed, it would have just been to costly, to have to repair the machinery, that would get clogged up with animal oils, dirt and vegetable materials, to not wash the fibers first. At the same time, i would think that those yarns were destined for more mass production of clothing and bedding etc. I do not think that you could buy factory produced yarns in retail stores. In general it was and is accepted to knit or embroider, or crochet in public. Maybe a rude or ill mannered person would and will make a comment, but in the broader sense, I have never heard a comment or public outing of negativeness about knitting in public. It may have been a class thing at one time who did and who did not knit in public, but even that, I think was not a big issue. I think you encountered some rude people who not necessarily represent all of England. I think that there is a video of Kaffe Fasset, sitting knitting in a train in England. He did get some commence, but more on "what are you doing" and " what are you making", and that ended up in impromptu knitting lesson on the spot. Els In article , wrote: As I work with LONG fine steel needles, I come to understand why knitting in public was discouraged. Long ago, much knitting was done on long steel knitting needles. I would not want to sit next to someone that was knitting fast and furiously with long steel needles. It would be like sitting next to someone that had a pair of mating porcupines on their lap. Now, I suspect the blokes that made comments about my knitting on the train in GB had sat next to their grandmothers as children; and had been poked by the DPN as their grandmothers knit jumpers. Those blokes probably had good reason to think there was something rude about knitting in public. On the other hand, Californians do not make comments about my knitting, because as children, they never had to sit next to flailing DPN. Moreover, in the old days, yarn may not have been so clean. Sheep farms and wool mills were not traditionally clean places, and who knew where the yarn had been. Working with yarn of unknown cleanliness in a pub around food and drink, or leaving lint in public spaces would have not make knitters too popular. But, now we have circular needles and single point flexible needles, so public safety is not so much an issue. Now, we have cleaner yarns. So I no longer see valid reasons for not knitting in public. But, I do understand the cultural bias against knitting in public. There was a time when it had a practical basis. Aaron "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Well Aaron , A "Woman knitting Over there !!! is usually not so kindly meant , now adays , i think that is one thing That the Feministic movement failed, It used to be the Acepted thing to knit, or handcraft [ Idel habds etc,,,,] Than Suddenly it became unacceted or a something only "primitive women did !!! Educated women Didn`t !!!!" .I am getting so many people reacting to my knitting on trains , busses , Waiting rooms , etc,,,,, that i know it is an odity ,,,, Almost like Breast feeding in public, Used to be done only by "Primitive women" than became Done by all who felt like doing it. Nobody now in Westen world would say a woman breast feeding is Primitive ..... So i really feel it is time Public knitting or crafting should be accepted again. The last woman who commented to me about this being "primitive" , got an answer that my clothes Primitively better looking than her`s ,,,, i am loosing ,my patience for all the strange remarks of people ,,,, who don`t mind other writing on their laptops, or listening to music , or phoning with half the world talking about Personal stuff in public ... If this is tolerated , why isn`t my handcrafting tolerated ..... As to fellows saying something about Knitting Men ? well it is still an odity ,,, Do it more and spread the Stiches mirjam I have heard blokes say, ''blimey, there's a woman knitting over there!'' However, usually the tone when they say that is not as bad as when they say ''BLIMEY, there's a MAN knitting over there!!!'', which is what I hear more often : ) Aaron "spinninglilac" wrote in message .uk... Hi Mirjam, I took some sock knitting to the pub a couple of times, if I can get the seat near the door, where it isn't so smokey, and once I heard a guy say to his friend at the bar, ''blimey, theres a woman knitting over there!'' so I went to him and said, ''you're knowledge astounds me, that you know what I am doing, a pity you seem to lack tact, however, no matter, would you like to come and learn!'' he looked at me as if I'd gone mad, and Don the landlord, grinned,and said, ''she does many a weird and wonderful thing in a pub, wait til next week, come and see what she's doing then!'' Meaning I was booked to entertain there and this guy obviously had never seen me perform, but he turned up, and of course I ''got'' at him all night, now we are very good friends. He isn't very old, but I feel he's been educated, in tact if nothing else.. hugz cher "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Cher and Katherine , I ALWAYS take some work with me , whenm i travel anywhere and esp when i travel to Belgium ,,, My Aquaintances who wonder , where i have the time to have knitted or embroidered `ALL THIS THINGS` , are surprised to hear i do it on those `moments in between`,,, in the airport in the bus , in the morning at my father`s house Before he gets up , on his pace, or in the evenings when he goes earlier to bed... Never mind how much i make ,,,,, "A stich + A Stich = A row + Row and before you know it , i have an other nice item.....I also go to some conventions, and i really hate this long Listening to lectures that sometimes, as interesting as they are , make me sleepy or edgy ,,, my hand could knit or embroider but people Look at me with THIS LOOK , same people don`t hesitate to Talk in Half Loud voices which are far more disruptive to other than my quiet knitting ... I am really seriously considering starting to knit/embroider again in public ,,,,, mirjam They'll laugh the other side of their faces when you produce the wonderful items that you do... hugz cher have a great time... |
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No birthday Dear Cher only Holiday greetings ,,, and wht are you
breathless ?????? Gosh Mirjam, I am quite out of breath reading all this....lol well done you hugz cher and birthday greetings from me too, didn't know I'd missed it.. "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... C H E R !!!!! hahahahh as Usual you are hilarious .... Yesterday as the Inciator of the Seminar called to wish me Happy holiday ,,, The seminar is called"Pain of Flash and Blood ", An Interdisciplinary conferece about the representation of the ill, the suffering and the delighting body" . I want to go at least 1 day, There will be pschologists, poets, artists [5 exhibtions by artists who are dealing with their ailments or in general about suffer ++] Linguists , writers , a film about a Girl who has to live in some sort of contraption, philoshers etc... I want to go , am pushed for my time, [ anyway have to travel by train 2 hours to and and back] , and know from experience that sitting like this a whole day, with my hands not doing much, isn`t me. I can listen and make some of the Long stichings i do [on the big work] Or knit [ my son wants a second Moebious] . But In israeli Seminars etc,,,,It isn`t done ,,,, After years of women in the Kiboets General Assemblies knitting ... suddenly it became a no no ... I realy want to do it ,,,, And as i presented it to the Inciator yesterday , for me it is one of the Pleasures of the Flesh ,,,, [ he said he doesn`t mind me doing it, in fact he said he could be a Living Show . I Said , you know people will look at me , He said he doesn`t mind, and said why don`t i suggest it to some other colleagues who are coming., in fact i had a feeling he likes me to do it .. So now i will think and prepare a work i can do without much fuss [ just long technical No counting work .] i will prepare to have one of mine ready , i can take it and always Not do it if circumstances aren`t suitable. Of course there will always be somebdy saying I am doing it for attention , but i am really short for time and it helps me to concentrate on the lectures , whose subjects are`t easy , and when pics are shown i can stop ... mirjam |
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Aaron i never had long steel needles , nore had my mother or
grandmother, Nore for that matter can i recall long steel needles. in the 50s , 60s 70s , it was common to see women [ in winter[ knit every where ,,, than it became somehing Not done , it is a combination of The Feministic rise + commercial stuff + more women working outside ... mnay in tiresome typing pools or factories ,,,, I don`t think that anybody of the age group you speak about would have such a recollection as you try to give here .... mirjam As I work with LONG fine steel needles, I come to understand why knitting in public was discouraged. Long ago, much knitting was done on long steel knitting needles. I would not want to sit next to someone that was knitting fast and furiously with long steel needles. It would be like sitting next to someone that had a pair of mating porcupines on their lap. Now, I suspect the blokes that made comments about my knitting on the train in GB had sat next to their grandmothers as children; and had been poked by the DPN as their grandmothers knit jumpers. Those blokes probably had good reason to think there was something rude about knitting in public. On the other hand, Californians do not make comments about my knitting, because as children, they never had to sit next to flailing DPN. Moreover, in the old days, yarn may not have been so clean. Sheep farms and wool mills were not traditionally clean places, and who knew where the yarn had been. Working with yarn of unknown cleanliness in a pub around food and drink, or leaving lint in public spaces would have not make knitters too popular. But, now we have circular needles and single point flexible needles, so public safety is not so much an issue. Now, we have cleaner yarns. So I no longer see valid reasons for not knitting in public. But, I do understand the cultural bias against knitting in public. There was a time when it had a practical basis. Aaron "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Well Aaron , A "Woman knitting Over there !!! is usually not so kindly meant , now adays , i think that is one thing That the Feministic movement failed, It used to be the Acepted thing to knit, or handcraft [ Idel habds etc,,,,] Than Suddenly it became unacceted or a something only "primitive women did !!! Educated women Didn`t !!!!" .I am getting so many people reacting to my knitting on trains , busses , Waiting rooms , etc,,,,, that i know it is an odity ,,,, Almost like Breast feeding in public, Used to be done only by "Primitive women" than became Done by all who felt like doing it. Nobody now in Westen world would say a woman breast feeding is Primitive ..... So i really feel it is time Public knitting or crafting should be accepted again. The last woman who commented to me about this being "primitive" , got an answer that my clothes Primitively better looking than her`s ,,,, i am loosing ,my patience for all the strange remarks of people ,,,, who don`t mind other writing on their laptops, or listening to music , or phoning with half the world talking about Personal stuff in public ... If this is tolerated , why isn`t my handcrafting tolerated ..... As to fellows saying something about Knitting Men ? well it is still an odity ,,, Do it more and spread the Stiches mirjam I have heard blokes say, ''blimey, there's a woman knitting over there!'' However, usually the tone when they say that is not as bad as when they say ''BLIMEY, there's a MAN knitting over there!!!'', which is what I hear more often : ) Aaron "spinninglilac" wrote in message .uk... Hi Mirjam, I took some sock knitting to the pub a couple of times, if I can get the seat near the door, where it isn't so smokey, and once I heard a guy say to his friend at the bar, ''blimey, theres a woman knitting over there!'' so I went to him and said, ''you're knowledge astounds me, that you know what I am doing, a pity you seem to lack tact, however, no matter, would you like to come and learn!'' he looked at me as if I'd gone mad, and Don the landlord, grinned,and said, ''she does many a weird and wonderful thing in a pub, wait til next week, come and see what she's doing then!'' Meaning I was booked to entertain there and this guy obviously had never seen me perform, but he turned up, and of course I ''got'' at him all night, now we are very good friends. He isn't very old, but I feel he's been educated, in tact if nothing else.. hugz cher "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Cher and Katherine , I ALWAYS take some work with me , whenm i travel anywhere and esp when i travel to Belgium ,,, My Aquaintances who wonder , where i have the time to have knitted or embroidered `ALL THIS THINGS` , are surprised to hear i do it on those `moments in between`,,, in the airport in the bus , in the morning at my father`s house Before he gets up , on his pace, or in the evenings when he goes earlier to bed... Never mind how much i make ,,,,, "A stich + A Stich = A row + Row and before you know it , i have an other nice item.....I also go to some conventions, and i really hate this long Listening to lectures that sometimes, as interesting as they are , make me sleepy or edgy ,,, my hand could knit or embroider but people Look at me with THIS LOOK , same people don`t hesitate to Talk in Half Loud voices which are far more disruptive to other than my quiet knitting ... I am really seriously considering starting to knit/embroider again in public ,,,,, mirjam They'll laugh the other side of their faces when you produce the wonderful items that you do... hugz cher have a great time... |
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I happen to know people who play football and embroider , and i know
lawyers who pick a fight [because of a prejudice] without a drop of alcohol.I think Aaron that generalizing like this is no better than saying :Blime there is a man knitting !!!" . mirjam Mostly it was a comment that I head from guys in football jerseys drinking beer on trains in GB. I do not hear it around California. Maybe because most men in California do not know what knitting is? Maybe, because I live close to SF and folk around here are tolerant? Maybe because several of my friends are attorneys, and no footballer, no matter how stupid drunk, wants to pick a fight with a pack of divorce lawyers? Aaron " YarnWright" wrote in message ... on this side of the pond, Aaron, you'd hear it in more expletive terms, LOL (s-o-b, there's a MAN knitting over there..... holey sXit, there's a Man knitting over there) Noreen wrote in message et... I have heard blokes say, ''blimey, there's a woman knitting over there!'' However, usually the tone when they say that is not as bad as when they say ''BLIMEY, there's a MAN knitting over there!!!'', which is what I hear more often : ) Aaron "spinninglilac" wrote in message . uk... Hi Mirjam, I took some sock knitting to the pub a couple of times, if I can get the seat near the door, where it isn't so smokey, and once I heard a guy say to his friend at the bar, ''blimey, theres a woman knitting over there!'' so I went to him and said, ''you're knowledge astounds me, that you know what I am doing, a pity you seem to lack tact, however, no matter, would you like to come and learn!'' he looked at me as if I'd gone mad, and Don the landlord, grinned,and said, ''she does many a weird and wonderful thing in a pub, wait til next week, come and see what she's doing then!'' Meaning I was booked to entertain there and this guy obviously had never seen me perform, but he turned up, and of course I ''got'' at him all night, now we are very good friends. He isn't very old, but I feel he's been educated, in tact if nothing else.. hugz cher "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Cher and Katherine , I ALWAYS take some work with me , whenm i travel anywhere and esp when i travel to Belgium ,,, My Aquaintances who wonder , where i have the time to have knitted or embroidered `ALL THIS THINGS` , are surprised to hear i do it on those `moments in between`,,, in the airport in the bus , in the morning at my father`s house Before he gets up , on his pace, or in the evenings when he goes earlier to bed... Never mind how much i make ,,,,, "A stich + A Stich = A row + Row and before you know it , i have an other nice item.....I also go to some conventions, and i really hate this long Listening to lectures that sometimes, as interesting as they are , make me sleepy or edgy ,,, my hand could knit or embroider but people Look at me with THIS LOOK , same people don`t hesitate to Talk in Half Loud voices which are far more disruptive to other than my quiet knitting ... I am really seriously considering starting to knit/embroider again in public ,,,,, mirjam They'll laugh the other side of their faces when you produce the wonderful items that you do... hugz cher have a great time... |
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On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:12:01 GMT, spewed forth :
As I work with LONG fine steel needles, I come to understand why knitting in public was discouraged. Long ago, much knitting was done on long steel knitting needles. I would not want to sit next to someone that was knitting fast and furiously with long steel needles. It would be like sitting next to someone that had a pair of mating porcupines on their lap. Now, I suspect the blokes that made comments about my knitting on the train in GB had sat next to their grandmothers as children; and had been poked by the DPN as their grandmothers knit jumpers. Those blokes probably had good reason to think there was something rude about knitting in public. On the other hand, Californians do not make comments about my knitting, because as children, they never had to sit next to flailing DPN. I think there's got to be some generational gappage going on somewhere. When I was growing up women my mother's age (post-WW2 children) didn't knit/crochet/sew yadda yadda because it was inconvenient. They were working women and could purchase made things. I learned crochet, knitting, embroidery, tatting and rudimentary sewing from my granny, who was born in 1919 and remembers quite well the prospect of going naked or making it oneself. I have several books containing photos of "generic British women" going about their daily business with knitting in hand - usually on foot or perhaps riding on the back of a cart bound for market. They're using long needles, sure, but they're not stacked like sardines in the Tube doing it, either. Speaking of Tube Sardines, I wonder how that bloke's foot is who tried to feel me up in the District Line ... I mashed his instep fair and square and didn't he yelp, too! +++++++++++++ Reply to the list as I do not publish an email address to USENET. This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%. Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email account... |
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A long history of knitting in public, was Help with old english knitting directions
In article , Wooly
wrote: On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 17:12:01 GMT, spewed forth : As I work with LONG fine steel needles, I come to understand why knitting in public was discouraged. Long ago, much knitting was done on long steel knitting needles. I would not want to sit next to someone that was knitting fast and furiously with long steel needles. It would be like sitting next to someone that had a pair of mating porcupines on their lap. Now, I suspect the blokes that made comments about my knitting on the train in GB had sat next to their grandmothers as children; and had been poked by the DPN as their grandmothers knit jumpers. Those blokes probably had good reason to think there was something rude about knitting in public. On the other hand, Californians do not make comments about my knitting, because as children, they never had to sit next to flailing DPN. I think there's got to be some generational gappage going on somewhere. When I was growing up women my mother's age (post-WW2 children) didn't knit/crochet/sew yadda yadda because it was inconvenient. They were working women and could purchase made things. I learned crochet, knitting, embroidery, tatting and rudimentary sewing from my granny, who was born in 1919 and remembers quite well the prospect of going naked or making it oneself. I have several books containing photos of "generic British women" going about their daily business with knitting in hand - usually on foot or perhaps riding on the back of a cart bound for market. They're using long needles, sure, but they're not stacked like sardines in the Tube doing it, either. Speaking of Tube Sardines, I wonder how that bloke's foot is who tried to feel me up in the District Line ... I mashed his instep fair and square and didn't he yelp, too! Wooly you make me smile......good for you, stamping on his foot. He got of easy, I would have kneed him in the groin, and yelled at him at the same time, the nerve of him Els |
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