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  #21  
Old April 29th 08, 03:01 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 28, 5:07 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:10:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:42 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:51 am, wrote:


On Apr 27, 8:18 pm, Jman wrote:


On Apr 25, 6:19 pm, wrote:


Another bunch of new articles and a great Tutorial on how to make
Kilnformed Flashed Glass.
http://www.glasscampus.com

Hey that "Native Moon" is also Squamish, isn't it ?


/Jman...


It's a little of many elements of different West Coast Native. As
much Haida as Squamish. Those that understand native design know that
it incorporates a number of preset design elements. Because the usual
native carvings and paintings don't adapt particularly well for
stained glass or for sandblasting, the designs we use are our own
adaptations. Here's some of my native stained glass designs that have
sold extremely well and I've now retired and make available for free
use.http://www.glasscampus.com/freepatterns.htm


For the Gator**** group and associated hillbillies that assuredly
haven't the faintest idea what we're talking about, I recommend they
consider the outstanding sculpture on display at Vancouver airport and
printed on the Canadiand $20 bill.http://www.coreyhallisey.com/nwc_art...irit_of_haida_...


Being that my father in law was the director of the Tongass Forest for
more years than you can count, some of us hillbillies know more than
you think. Precut stencils have been around longer than you have and
have never been big sellers.


As with many things, it's the design that determines customer
support. I came back from Vegas with a pretty lengthy list of
interested customers. Whether or not it's a "big seller" isn't
especially important. It's just one more product to add to the
steadily growing list of "Master Artisan" products we offer to
encompass stained glass, kilnforming, hot glass, torchworking, and
sandblasting.


A "master artisan" buys precut stencils?


You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.

If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.

Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.

Jack
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  #22  
Old April 29th 08, 03:21 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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On Apr 28, 7:01 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 28, 5:07 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:10:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:42 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:51 am, wrote:


On Apr 27, 8:18 pm, Jman wrote:


On Apr 25, 6:19 pm, wrote:


Another bunch of new articles and a great Tutorial on how to make
Kilnformed Flashed Glass.http://www.glasscampus.com


Hey that "Native Moon" is also Squamish, isn't it ?


/Jman...


It's a little of many elements of different West Coast Native. As
much Haida as Squamish. Those that understand native design know that
it incorporates a number of preset design elements. Because the usual
native carvings and paintings don't adapt particularly well for
stained glass or for sandblasting, the designs we use are our own
adaptations. Here's some of my native stained glass designs that have
sold extremely well and I've now retired and make available for free
use.http://www.glasscampus.com/freepatterns.htm


For the Gator**** group and associated hillbillies that assuredly
haven't the faintest idea what we're talking about, I recommend they
consider the outstanding sculpture on display at Vancouver airport and
printed on the Canadiand $20 bill.http://www.coreyhallisey.com/nwc_art...irit_of_haida_...


Being that my father in law was the director of the Tongass Forest for
more years than you can count, some of us hillbillies know more than
you think. Precut stencils have been around longer than you have and
have never been big sellers.


As with many things, it's the design that determines customer
support. I came back from Vegas with a pretty lengthy list of
interested customers. Whether or not it's a "big seller" isn't
especially important. It's just one more product to add to the
steadily growing list of "Master Artisan" products we offer to
encompass stained glass, kilnforming, hot glass, torchworking, and
sandblasting.


A "master artisan" buys precut stencils?


You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.

If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.

Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.

Jack


I just got back from Vegas where all the locals informed me now has
the highest percentage rate of unemployment of any American city and
the highest number of real estate foreclosures. Other then casinos,
the only thing booming there is bankruptcy trustees and pawn shops.
  #23  
Old April 29th 08, 03:44 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
Moonraker[_2_]
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"nJb" wrote in message A "master artisan" buys
precut stencils?

You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.

If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.

Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.

Jack


As if there wasn't a vinyl sign shop on nearly every corner with a
plotter/cutter. I've found some that even carried sandblasting resist.
Typical D-anus, always on the dull edge of evolution.


  #24  
Old April 29th 08, 05:27 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
nJb[_3_]
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:21:23 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 28, 7:01 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:46:30 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 28, 5:07 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:10:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:42 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:51 am, wrote:


On Apr 27, 8:18 pm, Jman wrote:


On Apr 25, 6:19 pm, wrote:


Another bunch of new articles and a great Tutorial on how to make
Kilnformed Flashed Glass.
http://www.glasscampus.com

Hey that "Native Moon" is also Squamish, isn't it ?


/Jman...


It's a little of many elements of different West Coast Native. As
much Haida as Squamish. Those that understand native design know that
it incorporates a number of preset design elements. Because the usual
native carvings and paintings don't adapt particularly well for
stained glass or for sandblasting, the designs we use are our own
adaptations. Here's some of my native stained glass designs that have
sold extremely well and I've now retired and make available for free
use.http://www.glasscampus.com/freepatterns.htm


For the Gator**** group and associated hillbillies that assuredly
haven't the faintest idea what we're talking about, I recommend they
consider the outstanding sculpture on display at Vancouver airport and
printed on the Canadiand $20 bill.http://www.coreyhallisey.com/nwc_art...irit_of_haida_...


Being that my father in law was the director of the Tongass Forest for
more years than you can count, some of us hillbillies know more than
you think. Precut stencils have been around longer than you have and
have never been big sellers.


As with many things, it's the design that determines customer
support. I came back from Vegas with a pretty lengthy list of
interested customers. Whether or not it's a "big seller" isn't
especially important. It's just one more product to add to the
steadily growing list of "Master Artisan" products we offer to
encompass stained glass, kilnforming, hot glass, torchworking, and
sandblasting.


A "master artisan" buys precut stencils?


You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.

If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.

Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.

Jack


I just got back from Vegas where all the locals informed me now has
the highest percentage rate of unemployment of any American city and
the highest number of real estate foreclosures. Other then casinos,
the only thing booming there is bankruptcy trustees and pawn shops.


Doing a $60K installation next month. The wealthy are unaffected.
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Old April 29th 08, 05:29 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
nJb[_3_]
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:44:21 -0400, " Moonraker"
wrote:


"nJb" wrote in message A "master artisan" buys
precut stencils?

You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.

If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.

Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.

Jack


As if there wasn't a vinyl sign shop on nearly every corner with a
plotter/cutter. I've found some that even carried sandblasting resist.
Typical D-anus, always on the dull edge of evolution.


We have two within a quarter mile of our studio.
  #26  
Old April 29th 08, 06:30 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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On Apr 28, 7:44 pm, " Moonraker" wrote:
"nJb" wrote in message A "master artisan" buys

precut stencils?





You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.


If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.


Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.


Jack


As if there wasn't a vinyl sign shop on nearly every corner with a
plotter/cutter. I've found some that even carried sandblasting resist.
Typical D-anus, always on the dull edge of evolution.


Victorian Art Glass supplies resist and silicon carbide to numerous
sign shops.
Adapt or die. Diversification is always good adaptation.
  #27  
Old April 29th 08, 06:32 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
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On Apr 28, 9:29 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:44:21 -0400, " Moonraker"



wrote:

"nJb" wrote in message A "master artisan" buys
precut stencils?


You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.


If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.


Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.


Jack


As if there wasn't a vinyl sign shop on nearly every corner with a
plotter/cutter. I've found some that even carried sandblasting resist.
Typical D-anus, always on the dull edge of evolution.


We have two within a quarter mile of our studio.


They have signs in Gator****?
Good thing plotter cutters can make pictures as well as print.
  #28  
Old April 29th 08, 08:35 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
Jman
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On Apr 28, 7:46*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 5:07 pm, nJb wrote:





On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:10:28 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Apr 28, 10:42 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Apr 28, 8:51 am, wrote:


On Apr 27, 8:18 pm, Jman wrote:


On Apr 25, 6:19 pm, wrote:


Another bunch of new articles and a great Tutorial on how to make
Kilnformed Flashed Glass.http://www.glasscampus.com


Hey that "Native Moon" is also Squamish, isn't it ?


/Jman...


It's a little of many elements of different West Coast Native. *As
much Haida as Squamish. *Those that understand native design know that
it incorporates a number of preset design elements. *Because the usual
native carvings and paintings don't adapt particularly well for
stained glass or for sandblasting, the designs we use are our own
adaptations. *Here's some of my native stained glass designs that have
sold extremely well and I've now retired and make available for free
use.http://www.glasscampus.com/freepatterns.htm


For the Gator**** group and associated hillbillies that assuredly
haven't the faintest idea what we're talking about, I recommend they
consider the outstanding sculpture on display at Vancouver airport and
printed on the Canadiand $20 bill.http://www.coreyhallisey.com/nwc_art...irit_of_haida_...


Being that my father in law was the director of the Tongass Forest for
more years than you can count, some of us hillbillies know more than
you think. Precut stencils have been around longer than you have and
have never been big sellers.


As with many things, it's the design that determines customer
support. *I came back from Vegas with a pretty lengthy list of
interested customers. *Whether or not it's a "big seller" isn't
especially important. *It's just one more product to add to the
steadily growing list of "Master Artisan" products we offer to
encompass stained glass, kilnforming, hot glass, torchworking, and
sandblasting.


A "master artisan" buys precut stencils?


You bet. *Many do. *We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. *Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. *Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. * There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? * Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? * Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah !

What he said !
  #29  
Old April 29th 08, 08:38 AM posted to rec.crafts.glass
Jman
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On Apr 28, 7:55*pm, " Moonraker" wrote:
"nJb" wrote in message
A "master artisan" buys precut stencils?


As if you couldn't go to Michaels' or Hobby Lobby or ten other art supply
houses and buy stencils.


Jesus Christ !

What kind of **** are you gonna find at "Michael's" ?
Have you actually ever been to that store ? Dunno about down there,
but here they suck **** and their pricing is through the roof ! I
think I'd rather shop at Walter Marten.....shudder..
  #30  
Old April 29th 08, 03:28 PM posted to rec.crafts.glass
nJb[_3_]
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:32:47 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Apr 28, 9:29 pm, nJb wrote:
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:44:21 -0400, " Moonraker"



wrote:

"nJb" wrote in message A "master artisan" buys
precut stencils?


You bet. Many do. We do a lot of custom cut stencils for
sandblasters doing multiple copies that wish to avoid the intensely
boring and needlessly labour intensive task of manually cutting out
stencils. Just send us your drawing and we'll send back the precut
stencils ready to use. Or, chose one from our extensive library of
designs. There's little skill required to cut out a stencil so why
not let a machine do it for you and do a perfect job? Why would a
pro artisan spend time on a $5/hr job when they can instead use their
time to do something more valuable? Unless that poor pitiful artisan
has so little work they do it themself just to fill in otherwise dead
time?


Nice try but no cigar. We do one of a kind. I was refering to a
'master artisan" using somebody elses artwork.


If you want to be helpful, help your friends who took 4 hours to blast
that dragon. 30 minutes, tops. Maybe you could sell them a real
sandblaster and teach them how to use it.


Dead time? Not much. Utah and Vegas are booming. High end houses, high
end installations.


Jack


As if there wasn't a vinyl sign shop on nearly every corner with a
plotter/cutter. I've found some that even carried sandblasting resist.
Typical D-anus, always on the dull edge of evolution.


We have two within a quarter mile of our studio.


They have signs in Gator****?
Good thing plotter cutters can make pictures as well as print.


Gator****? The only inbreds here are you and your sock puppet.
 




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