Kiln suggestion / recommendation ?

On Feb 25, 8:47*pm, wrote:
On Feb 25, 6:30 pm, " *Moonraker" wrote:

Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

In amongst all this collection of oddities is the oddest of all -
there are still some too stupid to understand why this board has died.

Funny you should say that.... I just posted a new subject regarding
the same !!

/FC

On Feb 25, 8:17 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 25, 8:47 pm, wrote:

On Feb 25, 6:30 pm, " Moonraker" wrote:

Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

In amongst all this collection of oddities is the oddest of all -
there are still some too stupid to understand why this board has died.

Funny you should say that.... I just posted a new subject regarding
the same !!

/FC

What a sad and lame little group.

On Feb 25, 9:34*pm, wrote:
On Feb 25, 8:17 pm, Jman wrote:





On Feb 25, 8:47 pm, wrote:

On Feb 25, 6:30 pm, " *Moonraker" wrote:

Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

In amongst all this collection of oddities is the oddest of all -
there are still some too stupid to understand why this board has died.

Funny you should say that.... *I just posted a new subject regarding
the same !!

/FC

What a sad and lame little group.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And you still hang around......wanting to belong but yet no one wants
to be your friend. How sad.

On Feb 25, 5:31*pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:20*am, Adrian wrote:





On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. *For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. *If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequotedtext -

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 *2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

**** you assmunch.....
I hope you're old, cause' in that case you'll die soon. *Thank the
Gods for that...
****ing waste of skin.... * Just goes to prove my point about posting
here "hoping" that
someone can help with a simple question.
I hope your kids get into an accident and lose their ****ing limbs and
you end up
wiping their asses in your golden years you piece of ****.

/FC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow...I thought you were sincere and mature. I was going to send you a
couple of good kiln links where you could get a better deal than the
ones from whatshisname in Canada but not now.

On Feb 25, 5:35*pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:56*am, " *Moonraker" wrote:





"Adrian" wrote in message

.. .

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian

ROTFLMAO...

Do you suppose that D-anus' mother swore off anal sex after he was born?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah you're one to talk you ****ing inbred POS. *I heard your old man
had to CUM in her shoe
and let the flies get her pregnant ! * If I want any lip outta you,
I'll jingle my ****ing zipper and tell
you what a pretty mouth you have.

**** YOU and your ENTIRE family......

/FC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Dude...I guess all your profanity and immaturity must really make you
feel like a real grown up.

On Feb 26, 9:19*am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Feb 25, 5:31*pm, Jman wrote:





On Feb 25, 11:20*am, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. *For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. *If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequotedtext-

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 *2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

**** you assmunch.....
I hope you're old, cause' in that case you'll die soon. *Thank the
Gods for that...
****ing waste of skin.... * Just goes to prove my point about posting
here "hoping" that
someone can help with a simple question.
I hope your kids get into an accident and lose their ****ing limbs and
you end up
wiping their asses in your golden years you piece of ****.

/FC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow...I thought you were sincere and mature. I was going to send you a
couple of good kiln links where you could get a better deal than the
ones from whatshisname in Canada but not now.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, right,

Good thing I haven't been holding my breath in sheer anticipation !

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:19:36 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown
wrote:

On Feb 25, 5:31*pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:20*am, Adrian wrote:





On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. *For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. *If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequotedtext -

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 *2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

**** you assmunch.....
I hope you're old, cause' in that case you'll die soon. *Thank the
Gods for that...
****ing waste of skin.... * Just goes to prove my point about posting
here "hoping" that
someone can help with a simple question.
I hope your kids get into an accident and lose their ****ing limbs and
you end up
wiping their asses in your golden years you piece of ****.

/FC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow...I thought you were sincere and mature. I was going to send you a
couple of good kiln links where you could get a better deal than the
ones from whatshisname in Canada but not now.

Dennis - I think it's time your new friend went home -
it's clearly past his bedtime, and you know Nanny doesn't like
him to use that sort of language....

Sorry to dissappoint you Jman - but I'm not quite old enough
to die just yet

- and I don't have any kids, so your unpleasantly infantile rant was
completely wasted

- though it gives us all a valuable insight into the sort of person
that you are.

Nice friends you've got, Dennis.....

Adrian

On Feb 26, 8:17 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:34 pm, wrote:



On Feb 25, 8:17 pm, Jman wrote:

On Feb 25, 8:47 pm, wrote:

On Feb 25, 6:30 pm, " Moonraker" wrote:

Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

In amongst all this collection of oddities is the oddest of all -
there are still some too stupid to understand why this board has died.

Funny you should say that.... I just posted a new subject regarding
the same !!

/FC

What a sad and lame little group.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And you still hang around......wanting to belong but yet no one wants
to be your friend. How sad.

In all my classes I try to demonstrate examples of how to do something
right. It helps to also demonstrate how to do it wrong. This board
is a perfect example of how tolerating unrestricted rable creates
complete FU.

On Feb 26, 10:36 am, Adrian wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:19:36 -0800 (PST), Chemo the Clown



wrote:
On Feb 25, 5:31 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:20 am, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:35:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 24, 11:55 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:49 am, wrote:

On Feb 22, 9:57 pm, Jman wrote:

Presently looking to purchase a Kiln so that I may do the following:

- Precious metal / Jewelery / PMC clay, etc...

- Enameling on Copper / Silver / Gold etc...

- Glass slumping and fusing (largest piece would be about the size of
a breakfast bowl)

I would prefer a kiln with a 'side opening / swinging door and with a
window or peep-hole if possible. For convenience sake I would prefer
it to be 110 volt. If that's not possible, 220v can be made
available.

Most of the kiln's use would be for slumping and enameling

Money is not an issue, but I don't think I could justify spending any
amount over 5k.

Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful......

Cheers,

/FC

You'll find an excellent selection of kilns hehttp://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ts%20Kiln.html

You'll find considerably technical assistance hehttp://www.glasscampus.com/

Check out the video clips and tutorials - especially the "Kilnforming
Kindergarten".

Dennis Brady

DeBrady Glassworks -www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass - www. vicartglass.com
Glass Campus -www.glasscampus.com-Hidequotedtext-

- Show quoted text -

Wicked,....Thanks !

I remember being at your website once before...
I Found the information at the site really informative and it made
looking for a Kiln a crapload easier.

Having said that, I think I'm going to go with either the model

#1316 - 13" x 13" x 16" tall (inside), 240 volt / 15 amp

or the...

Model #9169 2000F 16" wide x 9" x 9" tall 120V/19A

Can you PM me so I can get an ETA and final price with shipping, or do
I do that through the website ?
(I'll probably just get it drop shipped to my location....)

Cheers,

/FC

Both are excellent kilns with convenient front door loading.
Phone me (250) 382-9554
or email: sales@vicartglass
and I'll get you a delivered price quote.

Ah - don't you just love a story with a happy ending g.

Now - hands up all of those who actually believed this little charade.

I must be getting old & cynical - but this particular game
(also known as 'Hey - why don't I just put a post up on usenet asking
for suppliers of those widgets that we sell and then you can post a
plug for our business saying that we've got loads of them at excellent
prices, then I can compliment you on your (our!) website and then
everybody can see what a great company we are and we'll sell shedloads
of widgets - and nobody on usenet will realise that they've been
duped)....

Once again - shows that whoever wrote 'No publicity is bad publicity'
hadn't reckoned with Dennis' particular talents... - the Oscars were
_last_ night....

..or I could just be old & cynical.....

Adrian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

**** you assmunch.....
I hope you're old, cause' in that case you'll die soon. Thank the
Gods for that...
****ing waste of skin.... Just goes to prove my point about posting
here "hoping" that
someone can help with a simple question.
I hope your kids get into an accident and lose their ****ing limbs and
you end up
wiping their asses in your golden years you piece of ****.

/FC- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wow...I thought you were sincere and mature. I was going to send you a
couple of good kiln links where you could get a better deal than the
ones from whatshisname in Canada but not now.

Dennis - I think it's time your new friend went home -
it's clearly past his bedtime, and you know Nanny doesn't like
him to use that sort of language....

Sorry to dissappoint you Jman - but I'm not quite old enough
to die just yet

- and I don't have any kids, so your unpleasantly infantile rant was
completely wasted

- though it gives us all a valuable insight into the sort of person
that you are.

Nice friends you've got, Dennis.....

Adrian

I'll equally impressed by yours.

On Feb 26, 11:10*am, wrote:
On Feb 26, 8:17 am, Chemo the Clown wrote:





On Feb 25, 9:34 pm, wrote:

On Feb 25, 8:17 pm, Jman wrote:

On Feb 25, 8:47 pm, wrote:

On Feb 25, 6:30 pm, " *Moonraker" wrote:

Funny that none of the recognized authorities in kilnforming will let you
post on their forums because of the misinformation and crooked business
practices you propagate.

Even the beadworking forums have rid themselves of you.

Why don't you and your "J-man" go back to your NAMBLA meeting and resume
your father-son incestous activities?

In amongst all this collection of oddities is the oddest of all -
there are still some too stupid to understand why this board has died.

Funny you should say that.... *I just posted a new subject regarding
the same !!

/FC

What a sad and lame little group.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And you still hang around......wanting to belong but yet no one wants
to be your friend. How sad.

In all my classes I try to demonstrate examples of how to do something
right. *It helps to also demonstrate how to do it wrong. *This board
is a perfect example of how tolerating unrestricted rable creates
complete FU.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well...keep "trying" and maybe one day you'll get it right. If you
feel the way you do about this group then why do you keep joining in?
You become as much a part of at as does anybody else. (yawn)....