sewing a kimono for halloween (going as oren)

Mike Behrent wrote:

Here are some uchikake, or wedding kimonos. These are not the fully rig by
any meansThere is another ornate robe worm over this which is usually hand
embroidered and drags on the floor behind and a jacket worn over that. I
won't go into the headgear and other paraphanalia. The full wedding setup
can easily go for as much as $50,000 when hand made. A Navy buddy of mine
married a Japanese girl who wore her mothers ensemble for the wedding. I
have never in my life seen such beautiful wedding clothing in my life, right
down to the silk fan it was awesome and extremely valuable having all been
hand made.Yuki is planning on her daughter wearing it when she marries.
Mike in Wisconsin

Sounds fabulous - does she have pix she would let us see? I love to see
really good stuff like this, and dream of being small and slim - though
even when I was slim, I had too much hip to look authentic in a kimono!
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Kate, I can ask her next time I talk to them, but in the meantime, this one
is similar except Yukis was embroidered in white on white with cherry
blossoms.
http://www.iipix.com/japan/wedding/pics/wed02.html
Mike in Wisconsin

"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
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Mike Behrent wrote:

Here are some uchikake, or wedding kimonos. These are not the fully rig
by
any meansThere is another ornate robe worm over this which is usually
hand
embroidered and drags on the floor behind and a jacket worn over that. I
won't go into the headgear and other paraphanalia. The full wedding
setup
can easily go for as much as $50,000 when hand made. A Navy buddy of
mine
married a Japanese girl who wore her mothers ensemble for the wedding. I
have never in my life seen such beautiful wedding clothing in my life,
right
down to the silk fan it was awesome and extremely valuable having all
been
hand made.Yuki is planning on her daughter wearing it when she marries.
Mike in Wisconsin

Sounds fabulous - does she have pix she would let us see? I love to see
really good stuff like this, and dream of being small and slim - though
even when I was slim, I had too much hip to look authentic in a kimono!
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

http://www.iipix.com/japan/wedding/pics/wed02.html

Mike, thanks for posting this link. Excellent pictures, and fascinating info!

The groom's kimono is very similar to the one I have (and occasionally
wear)--black, with white lotus medallions in specific places. It looks way
different on him!

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

Kimono are pretty interesting. It's amazing that some are really quite old,
being handed down through generations
Mike in Wisconsin

"SewStorm" wrote in message
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http://www.iipix.com/japan/wedding/pics/wed02.html

Mike, thanks for posting this link. Excellent pictures, and fascinating
info!

The groom's kimono is very similar to the one I have (and occasionally
wear)--black, with white lotus medallions in specific places. It looks way
different on him!

Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

Thanks, Mike, for the Kropped Kimono pattern location, it's perfect for one
of my DGD's Christmas outfit. She is 15 and prefers skirts & tops to
dresses anytime.
Emily

Mike Behrent wrote:

Kate, I can ask her next time I talk to them, but in the meantime, this one
is similar except Yukis was embroidered in white on white with cherry
blossoms.
http://www.iipix.com/japan/wedding/pics/wed02.html
Mike in Wisconsin

Thank you for those lovely pix. It looks like the couple enjoyed
themselves, even if the bride did spend most if her time dressing in
various different outfits! I do have a few more questions, if you don't
mind...

Are wedding kimono's for brides usually white? I thought they came in
lots of colours. This one is very pretty... And I loved the way the
old lady's was cut so the picture went over the two halves of the front
- very neat pattern matching, that!

Why do the brides have both Japanese AND Western wedding dresses? Seems
a tad odd to me!

Why did she change again into that equally elaborate ball gown? Getting
all tarted up in the one white dress was quite enough for me! I did
change later to go out for dinner, into a sugar almond pink silk suit I
made - matching skirt and blouse with two collars, but it was dead easy
to change into!

Looks like you had quite a time in Japan!
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

These days it's not uncommon to do pictures in both traditional and western
dress. Colors are pretty varied. White has it's own significance, as do
other colors and even patternsWhen my friend married they had two
ceremonies. One was traditional, the other western. Japan gas become an odd
mix although kimono is making a comeback.It seems the younger generation is
starting to rediscover their culture to some extent. Yukis kimono was all
white with white embroidery but the "coat" worn over it outdoors was white
with a colored design of flowers and vines around the hem and running up the
left side. Colors and patterns are pretty much based on representations of
fertility, harmony and good fortune.
My buddy made out great in Japan. I spent the whole time I was there in
the hospital. That was back at the end of 71.The link I gave you was just
one I found that had a kimono similar to the one Yuki wore.
Mike in Wisconsin

"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
...
Mike Behrent wrote:

Kate, I can ask her next time I talk to them, but in the meantime, this
one
is similar except Yukis was embroidered in white on white with cherry
blossoms.
http://www.iipix.com/japan/wedding/pics/wed02.html
Mike in Wisconsin

Thank you for those lovely pix. It looks like the couple enjoyed
themselves, even if the bride did spend most if her time dressing in
various different outfits! I do have a few more questions, if you don't
mind...

Are wedding kimono's for brides usually white? I thought they came in
lots of colours. This one is very pretty... And I loved the way the
old lady's was cut so the picture went over the two halves of the front
- very neat pattern matching, that!

Why do the brides have both Japanese AND Western wedding dresses? Seems
a tad odd to me!

Why did she change again into that equally elaborate ball gown? Getting
all tarted up in the one white dress was quite enough for me! I did
change later to go out for dinner, into a sugar almond pink silk suit I
made - matching skirt and blouse with two collars, but it was dead easy
to change into!

Looks like you had quite a time in Japan!
--
Kate XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

On 22 Oct 2003 19:19:03 GMT, SewStorm wrote:


Hmm, this makes me very happy that I kept my short black silk one. It's
absolutely gorgeous, but very simple. Black four-ply silk on one side, with no
ornamentation except for a stark white lotus on each chest, plus a larger one
in the center of the back. On the reverse side is a magnificent silk charmeuse
scene in lots of stormy looking greys and silver. I wear it sometimes as a
jacket, over dressy pants or skirt.


I think yours must be a three-crest, Karen. That's very formal, but the
most formal is a five-crest, often worn for things like weddings. It may
well be a man's haori, since you say it's short (haoris have little
triangular side panels running from under the arm to the hem). Sometimes
you can tell from the bottom of the sleeve cuff, too. If it's dead
straight, it's a man's, while if it curves a little it's a married woman's,
and if it curves a lot, it's an unmarried girl's (though an unmarried girl
doesn't normally wear crests, I think - that's more mother-of-the-bride
gear from what I understand).

There are so many subtle rules about kimono that rush right past the
Western mind - how deep the neckline is worn at the back and front, how
much of the under-obi shows depending on your married status, etc, how long
the sleeve should be (long 'furisode' sleeves for unmarried girls, and
bright colours, whereas older women wear shorter sleeves and more sombre
colours).

Anyone interested in this sort of thing should read Liza Dalby's book,
'Kimono', which is fascinating. She actually became a geisha - the first
Westerner ever to do so. I have this book in paperback, but I think there's
a newer version out now, with more pictures, which looks very tempting.

Trish

It may
well be a man's haori, since you say it's short (haoris have little
triangular side panels running from under the arm to the hem). Sometimes
you can tell from the bottom of the sleeve cuff, too. If it's dead
straight, it's a man's

Aha! I went and looked at mine--it's definitely a five-crest, man's haori, as
you describe, Trish. Thanks for the explanation; I have often wondered just
what I was wearing!

By the way, the sleeves make dandy, deep pockets. When I wear this as a jacket
I have no need of a handbag.



Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati

Karen, this might interest you, There are links to how to wear the under
kimono, how to wear kimono and how to tie obi. Looks like a days work to me
:
http://www.risingsunimports.com/
Mike in Wisconsin

"SewStorm" wrote in message
...
It may
well be a man's haori, since you say it's short (haoris have little
triangular side panels running from under the arm to the hem). Sometimes
you can tell from the bottom of the sleeve cuff, too. If it's dead
straight, it's a man's

Aha! I went and looked at mine--it's definitely a five-crest, man's haori,
as
you describe, Trish. Thanks for the explanation; I have often wondered
just
what I was wearing!

By the way, the sleeves make dandy, deep pockets. When I wear this as a
jacket
I have no need of a handbag.



Karen Maslowski in Cincinnati