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Terry Harper wrote in message news On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:16:59 -0400, "Javahut" wrote: If it's good wine, you drink it, if its not you pour it down the drain, why the hell would wine storage in a crystal decanter ever occur anyway. The problem is that people use lead crystal decanters to store whisky, brandy, port and sherry for extended periods. They should only be used for immediate consumption. Pour it back into the original bottle if you wish to keep it long-term. Nothing wrong with passing the port decanter clockwise round the dining table. Just make sure that it is emptied by the end of the meal. -- Terry Harper URL: http://www.btinternet.com/~terry.harper/ Terry: An interesting question would be if the lead leaches into the alcohol over time, could one leach enough out by storing successive amounts of, say, cheap methyl alcohol in it over time and disposing of them until the amount that could work into stored potable spirits was negligble? Regards, Edward Hennessey |
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An interesting question would be if the lead leaches into the alcohol
over time, could one leach enough out by storing successive amounts of, say, cheap methyl alcohol in it over time and disposing of them until the amount that could work into stored potable spirits was negligble? The alcohol is not the factor. It is the slightly acid aspect of wine. The original concern of the actual tests was whether lead crystal drinking glasses leached enough lead to make drinking from them risky. The result of the test was to conclude that there was no risk and all that needed to be avoided was long term storage. Potable spirits probably (although this is not tested) do not absorb enough to think about. -- Mike Firth Furnace Glassblowing Website http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/ "Edward Hennessey" wrote in message nk.net... Terry Harper wrote in message news On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:16:59 -0400, "Javahut" wrote: If it's good wine, you drink it, if its not you pour it down the drain, why the hell would wine storage in a crystal decanter ever occur anyway. The problem is that people use lead crystal decanters to store whisky, brandy, port and sherry for extended periods. They should only be used for immediate consumption. Pour it back into the original bottle if you wish to keep it long-term. Nothing wrong with passing the port decanter clockwise round the dining table. Just make sure that it is emptied by the end of the meal. -- Terry Harper URL: http://www.btinternet.com/~terry.harper/ Terry: An interesting question would be if the lead leaches into the alcohol over time, could one leach enough out by storing successive amounts of, say, cheap methyl alcohol in it over time and disposing of them until the amount that could work into stored potable spirits was negligble? Regards, Edward Hennessey |
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Mike Firth wrote in message news An interesting question would be if the lead leaches into the alcohol over time, could one leach enough out by storing successive amounts of, say, cheap methyl alcohol in it over time and disposing of them until the amount that could work into stored potable spirits was negligble? The alcohol is not the factor. It is the slightly acid aspect of wine. The original concern of the actual tests was whether lead crystal drinking glasses leached enough lead to make drinking from them risky. The result of the test was to conclude that there was no risk and all that needed to be avoided was long term storage. Potable spirits probably (although this is not tested) do not absorb enough to think about. -- Mike Firth Furnace Glassblowing Website http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/ "Edward Hennessey" wrote in message nk.net... Terry Harper wrote in message news On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:16:59 -0400, "Javahut" wrote: If it's good wine, you drink it, if its not you pour it down the drain, why the hell would wine storage in a crystal decanter ever occur anyway. The problem is that people use lead crystal decanters to store whisky, brandy, port and sherry for extended periods. They should only be used for immediate consumption. Pour it back into the original bottle if you wish to keep it long-term. Nothing wrong with passing the port decanter clockwise round the dining table. Just make sure that it is emptied by the end of the meal. -- Terry Harper URL: http://www.btinternet.com/~terry.harper/ Terry: An interesting question would be if the lead leaches into the alcohol over time, could one leach enough out by storing successive amounts of, say, cheap methyl alcohol in it over time and disposing of them until the amount that could work into stored potable spirits was negligble? Mike: Thank you. Regards, Edward Hennessey |
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"Debbie Nelson" writes:
Allan, while I'm a newbie to this group only because I finally kicked my son off the computer long enough to set all my stuff back up, I'm NOT new to lurking over Mike Firth's shoulders to bask in the glow of his knowledge. You can't go wrong with anything he has to say about glassblowing. You have no idea what I've learned from him through his website, and through the Wet Canvas forum. I've learned as much lurking as I would have in any glassblowing class. Trial and error will teach you much, as well as every little burn and blister. Good luck! Thanks, Debbie. So far, I've found Mike Firth's comments to be very helpful. In the last week or so, I came here with specific questions that I felt I needed answers to for my own purposes, conceived in isolation and without reference to other points of view. For the most part, I've been received very cordially by readers of rec.crafts.glass and I am very grateful for the help I've received here. Now that my original questions have been answered, I plan to follow your example and lurk in this group and see what else I can learn here from discussions of questions it has not occurred to me to ask. -- Sincerely, Allan Adler * Disclaimer: I am a guest and *not* a member of the MIT CSAIL. My actions and * comments do not reflect in any way on MIT. Also, I am nowhere near Boston. |
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On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 22:45:31 GMT, "Edward Hennessey"
wrote: Terry: An interesting question would be if the lead leaches into the alcohol over time, could one leach enough out by storing successive amounts of, say, cheap methyl alcohol in it over time and disposing of them until the amount that could work into stored potable spirits was negligble? As was said, it's not the alcohol itself that is the problem. Leaching of the lead from the glass surface will leave a silica-rich network, which will probably show up as a semi-opaque layer on the inside eventually. This will be porous and the lead may well continue to leach out ad infinitum. A better method, were it practicable, would be to coat the inside of the decanter with a resistant layer. -- Terry Harper URL: http://www.btinternet.com/~terry.harper/ |
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