Corinabeads and challenges

I personally have a hard time understanding how that much money would
be spent on one strand of beads, it's not that they are Corina's.
It's just ME (I'm cheap... I guess, it's just that's A LOT of money to
me, and I wouldn't spend it on anyone's one strand of lampwork -
including mine) It wasn't to underestimate art, or someone's thought
of art, or anything else like that, it was just my belly button
comment... that's all.

I understand about a $200 barbie, heck I understand about a $200
strand of beads... that's a somewhat realistic $amount to me... There
is just something about $1000.00 for 1 strand of beads that is hard
for me to imagine. I think someone else stated it best, I can't see
how they would hold their value.

The bottom line is as long as the buyer is happy - more power to them,
it's just hard to understand (*for me*)


As far as the crystals comment - again - my point of view - I stated
that because right now I'm on a crystal craze, where I'm making some
really neat bracelets with crystal, and I would actually *use* them.
All the lampwork that I have, that I personally did not make is on
display.... typically I do not use what I get - they are more of a
collection. That's all


Why is it insane to pay that for someone's work? I'm really having a hard
time understanding why anyone is that wound up about the price Corina
received for her work. I sold a Barbie a year or so ago that I'd made a
hand-beaded outfit for, and got $200. For a Barbie. Yup, some people would
imagine that a silly plastic doll wouldn't be worth that much even with a
handmade outfit. I've seen dolls go for thousands and thousands of dollars,
simply because someone with the money thought the doll was worth it. I
don't see why beads should not get the same respect and money as any other
piece of art/craft.

Crystals? well that's another story.

I'd rather pay for the handmade item than something machine-made.

-Su

Yep, it's all about perspective.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net
"The Bead Goddess" wrote in message
om...
I personally have a hard time understanding how that much money would
be spent on one strand of beads, it's not that they are Corina's.
It's just ME (I'm cheap... I guess, it's just that's A LOT of money to
me, and I wouldn't spend it on anyone's one strand of lampwork -
including mine) It wasn't to underestimate art, or someone's thought
of art, or anything else like that, it was just my belly button
comment... that's all.

I understand about a $200 barbie, heck I understand about a $200
strand of beads... that's a somewhat realistic $amount to me... There
is just something about $1000.00 for 1 strand of beads that is hard
for me to imagine. I think someone else stated it best, I can't see
how they would hold their value.

The bottom line is as long as the buyer is happy - more power to them,
it's just hard to understand (*for me*)


As far as the crystals comment - again - my point of view - I stated
that because right now I'm on a crystal craze, where I'm making some
really neat bracelets with crystal, and I would actually *use* them.
All the lampwork that I have, that I personally did not make is on
display.... typically I do not use what I get - they are more of a
collection. That's all


Why is it insane to pay that for someone's work? I'm really having a
hard
time understanding why anyone is that wound up about the price Corina
received for her work. I sold a Barbie a year or so ago that I'd made a
hand-beaded outfit for, and got $200. For a Barbie. Yup, some people
would
imagine that a silly plastic doll wouldn't be worth that much even with
a
handmade outfit. I've seen dolls go for thousands and thousands of
dollars,
simply because someone with the money thought the doll was worth it. I
don't see why beads should not get the same respect and money as any
other
piece of art/craft.

Crystals? well that's another story.

I'd rather pay for the handmade item than something machine-made.

-Su

could we find it "stupifying" ?

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized
LC in Sunny So Cal
Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

Sure, LOL - whatever floats your boat.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

could we find it "stupifying" ?

The Blessed Fiddy, Patroness Saint of the Disorganized
LC in Sunny So Cal
Personality Development Specialist (Full-Time Mom!)

There were at least 3 pages last time i looked...each had about 2 dozen
entries on it...maybe more.


"starlia" wrote in message
...
It's just my initial reaction. I know she is looking for other effects
but
I sure don't see a lot of beads up there yet.

--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com

All right, spill the beans. I looked at the challenge and don't see no hot
rats frit! )

It was fun to go back and look though.

--
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Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
I thought that as well, but she has an excellent point... the frit
challenge was earlier this year, and adding frits and metals practically
guarantees that there will be very few "regular colors" reactions
submitted.

If you think of the Challenges as information-gleaning missions, it
makes a lot more sense. At the end of this month, we will all know a LOT
more about glass reactions.

And if you want to know more about frit reactions, check out the Frit
Challenge page... there is a certain mention (not me) of a certain frit,
way back when, that is all of a sudden HOT RATS under a very different
name.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

That's a good point about 'knowing' no one else would go that high. Makes
sense if say, you were going on vacation but wanted to make sure you got a
set. I think I did that once to get Jen Geldard's "wonky" auction because I
wanted it no matter what. I guess I'm glad it didn't go to what I put in.
Yikes. I'll be more careful myself now!
--
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Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg


"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
...
I have to say that I agree with this. While $1000 is really unusual, it's
an insult to call the high bidder of this auction insane. I am sure that
person has a very good reason for wanthing those beads that badly, and
remember that he/she was not the only one. There has to have been another
bidder helping the price get that high. Like I said - maybe that person
won
the lottery and had her heart set on those beads at any cost. Maybe the
person behind her put $100 as a high bid "knowing" no one else would "bid
that high". You never know.
Why are we judging this person? Can't we just be happy for them and for
Corina? It's all a matter of perspective.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

Lynda wrote:

I'm sorry I don't care how famous you are in the lampworking circles,
$1000.00 for a strand of beads? This is not Corina's fault, but lord,
that's just insane.... Granted as a lampworker, I can't say I wouldn't
like to find a bidder like that - lol.

Why is it insane to pay that for someone's work? I'm really having a
hard
time understanding why anyone is that wound up about the price Corina
received for her work. I sold a Barbie a year or so ago that I'd made a
hand-beaded outfit for, and got $200. For a Barbie. Yup, some people
would
imagine that a silly plastic doll wouldn't be worth that much even with
a
handmade outfit. I've seen dolls go for thousands and thousands of
dollars,
simply because someone with the money thought the doll was worth it. I
don't see why beads should not get the same respect and money as any
other
piece of art/craft.

I buy what I like, and what I can afford. Personally wasn't that hot
on that set, and sure don't have a spare $1000.00 to put towards
lampwork...

It only takes two people to be 'hot' on a set to get to the price
they're
willing to pay. For some people a thousand dollars isn't that much,
it's
all a question of scale.

Crystals? well that's another story.

I'd rather pay for the handmade item than something machine-made.

-Su

Yeah, what is hot rats?

--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com


"Lori Greenberg" wrote in message
k.net...
All right, spill the beans. I looked at the challenge and don't see no
hot
rats frit! )

It was fun to go back and look though.

--
--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...id=lorigre en
berg


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
I thought that as well, but she has an excellent point... the frit
challenge was earlier this year, and adding frits and metals practically
guarantees that there will be very few "regular colors" reactions
submitted.

If you think of the Challenges as information-gleaning missions, it
makes a lot more sense. At the end of this month, we will all know a LOT
more about glass reactions.

And if you want to know more about frit reactions, check out the Frit
Challenge page... there is a certain mention (not me) of a certain frit,
way back when, that is all of a sudden HOT RATS under a very different
name.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

the collector will
pay that kind of money for something they perceive as collectible art. I
think it's a wonderful step forward for lampwork as an art... we're
already there as a craft, but we have yet to be truly accepted as a fine
art. (I'm not saying that we're all artists, but there are some
lampworkers who are, and should be (and aren't) accepted as fine artists).

-Kalera

Even though I do hear some kvetching here and there (I don't mean in this
thread) about Corina's beads not being all-that, I do think her beads are art
as opposed to craft. Not every set of hers, but that's okay. Her stuff is
head-and-shoulders above the majority of other lampworkers, and I think the
inspiration and discovery is obvious in her glass. But it's an opinion, so
feel free to disagree. (I also think there're some sour grapes out there in
the Corina-kvetching....)
~~
Sooz

You know what I think? (Otherwise known as "Who cares -- shhh!")

I think that money is a sliding scale thing. $1000 would be a teensy drop in
the bucket to me if our household income were ten times what it now is. It
would be one big shrug.

$1000 is *nothing* to pay for a pair of shoes, for instance, to some women.
(To use an item we've been talking about in other threads....SHOES.) They
*collect* Manolos. Some women think nothing of spending $20,000 for a DRESS.
So, maybe the buyer of Corina's set of beads -- and her bidding-war partner
there -- have lots of money. Simply put.

It's all relative. (And I no longer think it's insane.)
~~
Sooz