First design using Glass Eye

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charlie wrote:

think also about fold lines and try to break them up.

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Are the fold lines places where sets of straight lines come closest to
going through the entire design? If so, I've got lines going all the
way through the designs right inside the outer borders. Is that a
problem on a 20" x 45" window? Thank you for commenting, Charlie.

Michael

yes. a line that goes almost through the entire width or height is subject
to folding on that line. makes it hard to flip over, but not so much if in a
sturdy frame, although it will be a weak point without bar reinforcement. it
also causes cracks in the pieces that bridge the fold lines, since that's
where the panel is going to flex the most.

glassman wrote:

Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish?
Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It
would probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but
I'm too old and lazy to take the time to learn the program.

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Thank you! I can't see how the software would be of much value to
you, Glassman. My guess is that from conception to ready-to-go
pattern is a very short turnaround for you. Not so for me. It took
me somewhere between two and three hours, but that included coming up
to speed on the software (not much problem there) and also a bunch of
fiddling around with it, messing with the border, making the curves on
the inside border, and changing the size of the border diamonds. My
guess is that without the software I would have been messing with the
design for several more hours.

Michael

On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote:
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Hi everybody!

Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I
probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than
that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window
measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to
paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas
from the Glass Eye examples.

Thank you, Michael

Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish?
Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It would
probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too old
and lazy to take the time to learn the program.

--
JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com

I could draw it out in 25 minutes.

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Hi everybody!

Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I
probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than
that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window
measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to
paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas
from the Glass Eye examples.

Thank you, Michael

Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish?
Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It
would
probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too
old
and lazy to take the time to learn the program.

--
JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com

I could draw it out in 25 minutes.


I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,

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On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote:
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Hi everybody!

Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know I
probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other than
that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window
measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to
paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas
from the Glass Eye examples.

Thank you, Michael

Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish?
Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together. It
would
probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too
old
and lazy to take the time to learn the program.

--
JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com

I could draw it out in 25 minutes.

I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,- Hide quoted text -

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Well I could draw it with pencil in 10 minutes but didn't want to
sound like a bragger.

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On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message

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Hi everybody!

Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I know
I
probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other
than
that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like window
measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to
paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of ideas
from the Glass Eye examples.

Thank you, Michael

Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to finish?
Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together.
It
would
probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm too
old
and lazy to take the time to learn the program.

--
JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com

I could draw it out in 25 minutes.

I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well I could draw it with pencil in 10 minutes but didn't want to
sound like a bragger.

I could copy and paste it and print it out in about 45 seconds, flat. So
what's the point?

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On Jul 24, 9:06 pm, "glassman" wrote:
"Michael" wrote in message

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Hi everybody!

Would appreciate your comments on this design, pro and con. I
know
I
probably need to break the border up into smaller pieces. Other
than
that, what do you think? It is targeted for a transom-like
window
measuring around 20" x 44". If the link wraps, you might have to
paste the thing together. The design is a conglomeration of
ideas
from the Glass Eye examples.

Thank you, Michael

Very nice as is. How long did it take you to do it start to
finish?
Include the time to print it on multiple sheets and tape together.
It
would
probably take me about 30 minutes to draw it out by hand, but I'm
too
old
and lazy to take the time to learn the program.

--
JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com

I could draw it out in 25 minutes.

I can draw it with the program in 15min, but have used it alot,- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well I could draw it with pencil in 10 minutes but didn't want to
sound like a bragger.

I could copy and paste it and print it out in about 45 seconds, flat. So
what's the point?

I thought we were playing "name that tune" with a glass pattern, I was
bluffing, and Neo, you are bragging LOL

seriously, the idea and concept behind designing with a computer is never
draw anything twice, pull it up from the archives/library and use it, flip
it, stretch it, extend it , repeat it, get the drift?
SO in Michaels design, you draw one quarter of it, then flip, and because
there are essentially so many repeated functions, that is "repeated" copy/
paste etc.

As far as the design itself, Michael, I have no opinion as to likes or
dislikes, it works, but I do have a question or two you could ask yourself
when designing that may help you with any program you choose.

Decide on the function of the window, If the idea of the design of that
transom was to make it look shorter in height than what it is, to perhaps
make a ceiling near it look not so tall, that does it, even with a border
giving true window size, that design with all the pieces in the center of
the window area, and so much clear glass around it, makes the window look
shorter.

When I looked at the pattern earlier I wondered why all the clear glass
area? Why so much design packed together in the middle, open it up, use the
room you have, and do not be afraid of those tails, your natural hinge lines
will be gone if you open the design and let the vertical lines be minimized,
unless your intent is to let more light thru a northern exposure window,
then lots will come thru the clear.

You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting pretty
windows in your house? You need to consider all variables as to light
quality, where on the world it is located and how much light you want in or
blocked and controlled by what you are designing.

off my soapbox, back to the flame wars!!

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I thought we were playing "name that tune" with a glass pattern, I was
bluffing, and Neo, you are bragging LOL

seriously, the idea and concept behind designing with a computer is never
draw anything twice, pull it up from the archives/library and use it,
flip
it, stretch it, extend it , repeat it, get the drift?
SO in Michaels design, you draw one quarter of it, then flip, and because
there are essentially so many repeated functions, that is "repeated" copy/
paste etc.

As far as the design itself, Michael, I have no opinion as to likes or
dislikes, it works, but I do have a question or two you could ask yourself
when designing that may help you with any program you choose.

Decide on the function of the window, If the idea of the design of that
transom was to make it look shorter in height than what it is, to perhaps
make a ceiling near it look not so tall, that does it, even with a border
giving true window size, that design with all the pieces in the center of
the window area, and so much clear glass around it, makes the window look
shorter.

When I looked at the pattern earlier I wondered why all the clear glass
area? Why so much design packed together in the middle, open it up, use
the
room you have, and do not be afraid of those tails, your natural hinge
lines
will be gone if you open the design and let the vertical lines be
minimized,
unless your intent is to let more light thru a northern exposure window,
then lots will come thru the clear.

You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting pretty
windows in your house? You need to consider all variables as to light
quality, where on the world it is located and how much light you want in
or
blocked and controlled by what you are designing.

off my soapbox, back to the flame wars!!


Geez...did you learn all that in some on-line glass campus, or from your
years as a basement bandit? LOL (Remember, I've been in yer basement.)

javahut wrote:

You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting
pretty windows in your house?

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Thank you for the many comments. I had a few thoughts in mind when
doing the design. I'm going opalescent because it will have more
color to it at night, and I don't have to worry about sacrificing
outside view during the day because it only looks up to the sky. Even
if it's opalescent, if it's not backlit it can be hard to see lead
lines in same-color glass, so I chose to put a lot of contrasting
pieces against others but still maintain a color theme. There is also
a neutrality of content that pleases me.

We're heading back to southern Indiana tomorrow morning. I hope to
have this window put together within a few days after returning. It
might take significantly longer if I can't get the glass I need at the
local Glass store. I'm also working on another transom design.

Michael

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javahut wrote:

You see how much goes into the thought process when you are putting
pretty windows in your house?

*************
Thank you for the many comments. I had a few thoughts in mind when
doing the design. I'm going opalescent because it will have more
color to it at night, and I don't have to worry about sacrificing
outside view during the day because it only looks up to the sky. Even
if it's opalescent, if it's not backlit it can be hard to see lead
lines in same-color glass, so I chose to put a lot of contrasting
pieces against others but still maintain a color theme. There is also
a neutrality of content that pleases me.

We're heading back to southern Indiana tomorrow morning. I hope to
have this window put together within a few days after returning. It
might take significantly longer if I can't get the glass I need at the
local Glass store. I'm also working on another transom design.

Michael

then you have to start thinking about colors. dark red, dark green, blues,
browns, etc will all look black at night.