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Patina Issue....
Hello there,
I'm presently having a problem getting a that 'rich copper' color from my solder. I'm using the "Classique" brand Copper Patina (stuff is blue in the bottle). Anyway, the solder seems to be turning out a bit 'Pinker' than that nice glossy Copper Patina I often see in other's works. Is there some special prep that needs to be done to the copper 'first' before I use the Patina ? I've been shakin' the hell outta the bottle and using some steel wool on the solder (60/40) On a side note, I saw a few pieces that were made by this 'much older' German fella and his stuff looked like it was wrapped in 'Chromel". His small pieces had a super amazing finsh .... He said that he used 'calcium' or something....and added that "it makes all the difference in the world". I couldn't stay long enough for him to explain it to me, but thought I would ask here instead. Does anyone know what that means... "To use Calcium" when finishing a piece ? Cheers, /MM |
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Patina Issue....
"Jman" wrote in message oups.com... Hello there, I'm presently having a problem getting a that 'rich copper' color from my solder. I'm using the "Classique" brand Copper Patina (stuff is blue in the bottle). Anyway, the solder seems to be turning out a bit 2 biggest issues are.... 1. using fresh chemical, since it loses effectiveness and has a shelf life once it's mixed. You never know how long it's been sitting around when you buy it on the internet. 2. Piece must be incredibly sparkling clean and dry. That means no detergent, soap, or residue of any kind. Even rubbing it with a cloth may affect it. When done, you must use a polish to make it look like a shiny penny. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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Patina Issue....
On Jul 26, 5:36 am, "glassman" wrote:
"Jman" wrote in message oups.com... Hello there, I'm presently having a problem getting a that 'rich copper' color from my solder. I'm using the "Classique" brand Copper Patina (stuff is blue in the bottle). Anyway, the solder seems to be turning out a bit 2 biggest issues are.... 1. using fresh chemical, since it loses effectiveness and has a shelf life once it's mixed. You never know how long it's been sitting around when you buy it on the internet. 2. Piece must be incredibly sparkling clean and dry. That means no detergent, soap, or residue of any kind. Even rubbing it with a cloth may affect it. When done, you must use a polish to make it look like a shiny penny. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com Hmmmm, Ok, so the patina in question is from a local vendor but it could have been on the shelf for awhile.... I couldn't be sure. I'll look for a fresh one to eliminate that possiblility. So once I've finished the piece, I should 'then' polish it before the patina ? What kind of polish would you suggest ? Would a car polish be OK or is there something specific that works better ? When using a polish, is it best to use a special kind of cloth also ? Cheers, /MM |
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Patina Issue....
"Jman" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 26, 5:36 am, "glassman" wrote: "Jman" wrote in message oups.com... Hello there, I'm presently having a problem getting a that 'rich copper' color from my solder. I'm using the "Classique" brand Copper Patina (stuff is blue in the bottle). Anyway, the solder seems to be turning out a bit 2 biggest issues are.... 1. using fresh chemical, since it loses effectiveness and has a shelf life once it's mixed. You never know how long it's been sitting around when you buy it on the internet. 2. Piece must be incredibly sparkling clean and dry. That means no detergent, soap, or residue of any kind. Even rubbing it with a cloth may affect it. When done, you must use a polish to make it look like a shiny penny. -- JK Sinrodwww.SinrodStudios.comwww.MyConeyIslandMemori es.com Hmmmm, Ok, so the patina in question is from a local vendor but it could have been on the shelf for awhile.... I couldn't be sure. I'll look for a fresh one to eliminate that possiblility. So once I've finished the piece, I should 'then' polish it before the patina ? What kind of polish would you suggest ? Would a car polish be OK or is there something specific that works better ? When using a polish, is it best to use a special kind of cloth also ? Cheers, /MM Polishing is done after the patina is applied and washed off with soapy water and dried. I use something called NEV-R-DULL. It's a cotton wadding with polish. You apply, let dry to a haze, then buff with a soft cloth. Yes copper patina is a pain. I almost always use the black. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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Patina Issue....
Here's the secret to copper patina. After soldering, with flux still all
over panel (i use soldermate) spray the hell out of it with Windex. Wipe dry w/ paper towels. Do other side. Now take a last wipe and pour on the patina, rub in well, flip do other side after again doing a final wipe down. Then just wash with tons of water and Dawn. Polish w' kem-o-pro or similar. Also creates a beautiful rich black on zinc.m "Jman" wrote in message oups.com... Hello there, I'm presently having a problem getting a that 'rich copper' color from my solder. I'm using the "Classique" brand Copper Patina (stuff is blue in the bottle). Anyway, the solder seems to be turning out a bit 'Pinker' than that nice glossy Copper Patina I often see in other's works. Is there some special prep that needs to be done to the copper 'first' before I use the Patina ? I've been shakin' the hell outta the bottle and using some steel wool on the solder (60/40) On a side note, I saw a few pieces that were made by this 'much older' German fella and his stuff looked like it was wrapped in 'Chromel". His small pieces had a super amazing finsh .... He said that he used 'calcium' or something....and added that "it makes all the difference in the world". I couldn't stay long enough for him to explain it to me, but thought I would ask here instead. Does anyone know what that means... "To use Calcium" when finishing a piece ? Cheers, /MM |
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Patina Issue....
Thanks for the Tips !
I'll give it a go..... /MM |
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