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#51
March 27th 04, 01:30 PM
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Thank you Rachel This seems more reasonable !!!
mirjam On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 02:01:44 GMT, Rachel Janzen wrote: Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote: Rachel , i was facinated to read this note of yours, esp the opening line .....[ and please don`t be offended by my being surprised about it] One of the first thing you learn when you learn scrapbooking (Creative Memories in particular) The mere idea that one has or can `learn scrapbooking `, made me dizy and completely made me wonder ,, i thought we all knew how to remember , we all did it in our tradional and private way , as a kid i have had Glue -in albums into which i glued postcards , articles , snippets i cut out of mags , paper doilies from places i visited where i asked family or friends and even the waiter to sign it!!!! after glueing it in i would add some drawings with water color ,, a photo of me and my Praternal Oma and Papa in switerland i Hid in a double folded page which i cut into the form of a cabin on the Cable Ban. A desert School trip , got images of desert views as background ,,,, so Was I book scrapping ,,,, was i making creative memories ??? i am not putting you down , nore am i cinycal ,,,,isn`t a bit commercializing , of even Unifying Memories ,, in a TREND of that is how it is done ??? and what if one has another idea ,,,, if one does not want or have all this stuff , is he /she than not Creative ??? and what is this word creative ??? doing here anyway ,,,, memories are memories, and anybody does or doesn`t do it , in their own way , why add this trendy word ?? and if it would be called Creative ? won`t people do it ?? if the can or need to do it ??? mirjam I guess a little explanation to those not in North America is needed. I guess I shoiuld of said Creative Memories (TM) - because it is a popular scrapbooking supply company that like Tupperware has home-based party marketing. By teaching, their specialty is teaching people how to use photo-safe materials, so that even through you are being creative, the methods ensure that future generations have the memories you've preserved. Rachel 
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#52
March 27th 04, 03:29 PM
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#54
March 27th 04, 05:24 PM
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Cheryl , i don`t know if i should be thankful for your try to Explain
my words or offended by it ,,,,,,Imagine that i have gone on line as well as looked into some mags and catalogs that describe Contemporary Scarpbooking ,,,, making v collages is making collages whether you did it years ago with glue and paint or Now adays using your computer as home printer ,,,, the technical advancements , do not change the subject it is still the same idea , a collage of documents letters photos and other `things` that belong[ed] to one person or a group ofd persons . mirjam ,,,,, On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 10:29:36 -0500, Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 3/26/04 8:02 PM, in article , "Ericka Kammerer" wrote: Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote: Rachel , i was facinated to read this note of yours, esp the opening line .....[ and please don`t be offended by my being surprised about it] One of the first thing you learn when you learn scrapbooking (Creative Memories in particular) The mere idea that one has or can `learn scrapbooking `, made me dizy and completely made me wonder ,, i thought we all knew how to remember , we all did it in our tradional and private way , Is it really *that* surprising that some people just want a little help tackling what many perceive as an overwhelming project? Are anyone's scrapbooks less valuable because they choose to follow certain techniques rather than coming up with all their own? While you may feel you always knew how to do it in your own way, apparently there are many others who don't. If they choose to use certain products or take lessons in certain techniques, I don't see how that's inappropriate. And maybe someday they'll feel more comfortable and spread their wings a bit more, and maybe they'll be perfectly happy with what they're already doing. Best wishes, Ericka Ericka, What Mirjam thinks of as "scrapbooking" is not the craft practiced by so many today. I have several of my DMIL's scrapbooks. They are quite plain by today's standards. Cheryl
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#55
March 27th 04, 05:51 PM
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In article , Cheryl Isaak
writes: Collage is a way to cover a box Collage, as I understand it, is taking parts of things to completely cover an *entire* surface. It's OK in collage to cover up half a photo with another photo. As it's been demonstrated to me, scrapbooking covers only *part* of the page with photos, and fills some of the rest of the page with written memories. A photo may be enhanced with a border or frame, but important parts aren't hidden behind other photos. I'm with Cheryl -- I don't "get" the current scrapbooking trend. Doesn't stop me from buying their fabulous pre-printed papers and borders, to use for writing letters, but my photos are in a box with the important information written on the back of them. So often, in the background of old family photos, was something of far more interest than the people in front -- an old car, a house, etc. -- I could never bring myself to cut out just the face and discard the historical details some future generation would find intriguing. Maybe I'd be more into scrapbooking if there were a next generation to pass them on to, but I'm the end of the line on this side of the ocean. -- Finished 3/17/04 -- Elmo WIP: Fireman's Prayer, Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe Paralegal - Writer - Editor - Researcher http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html
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March 27th 04, 06:05 PM
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#57
March 27th 04, 07:14 PM
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Cheryl Isaak wrote in
: I don't happen to "get it" when it comes to scrapbooking (memories being a wholly private thing), stamping or a number of the other popular hobbies. As an avid scrapbooker, I do it because I like to share memories. I did a scrapbook of my parents' 50th anniversary party that included the cards from those who attended as well as their photos, with notes written by each one to my parents. Many of these people have since died, and a scrapbook is one way to gather all of these memories from many people to pass on to my parents' granchildren. I also scrapbooked a lot of the memoribilia my mother had of my father, who passed away two years ago (and this is an on- going project...). Doing that I learned things about my Dad that I didn't know, including the fact that he was one of the first people to take the SATs. Again, gathering all this in one place, with the photos and the written notes describing the importance of everything there,is a way to pass these memories on. I don't cut the photos down to just someone's face; seeing the car or the house or the landscape in the background puts it all in context. I also scrapbook my vacations, including photos, pamphlets, maps, coasters, matchbooks, and anything else I can gather (the New Orleans book has beads in it and the Key West and Hawaii books have shells and sand). When friends come over for dinner or parties, they know where my scapbooks are and look to see what's new. At least two couples have in part planned their vacations around my scrapbooks! They found it inspiring to see photos of Fort Jefferson and the Dry Tortugas, for example, next to the brochure of the ferry and the map of the fort. Seeing photos of black sand beaches on pages laid out to look like a black sand beach, and photos of Volcanos National Park with my journaled impressions of the experience influenced another couple in their decision to go to Hawaii. I scrapbook photos of my balcony garden every year, including the tags from plants or the labels from seeds. That allows me to go back year after year and either duplicate what I did before or try something new. I've scrapbooked cross stitch projects, with the pattern in a sleeve on one page and the photos of the front, back, and details on the opposite one. Since I give away most of what I stitch, it's the only way I can keep records of what I've done. Not trying to make anyone a scrapbook convert, just trying to explain that it's more than just cutting out faces and slapping them on some pretty paper. It's yet another creative outlet for me. K
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March 27th 04, 08:02 PM
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In article , Cheryl Isaak
writes: I'm with Cheryl -- I don't "get" the current scrapbooking trend. Oh thank goodness - I have wondered if I was the only person not into it. According to my source (a scrapping supplies dealer), it's the new incarnation of the coffee klatsch. Today's women can't sit and do nothing, so they sit and scrap, so they feel productive while they yak. She holds regular "crops" both at her house and at her church. Of course, this is the Martha-ization of our old-fashioned photo albums. Just gluing photos to black paper isn't good enough any more when you can do it more artistically (and more expensively). Problem is -- and my source admits it -- since you now have to cut and arrange and carefully re-write just the right words till you get them error-free, it's no longer just taking a few minutes when a film comes back from Fotomat to glue them in an album, but hours of searching for just the right background paper and right stickers, so people are getting even *further* behind in getting their photos in the album. (A venture I gave up 20 years ago, when I realized how much room the albums took up versus just keeping the photos in shoeboxes. In a 400-square-foot apartment, an extra cubic foot here and there adds up real fast.) Buuuuuuttttt, it's an easy foot in the door to crafting. Once they've tried scrapping, they may be more adventurous to trying other forms of self-expression. And that (bwahahaha) is when I pounce on them, with the thought of creating *useful* heirlooms, like blankies and dresses and sweaters. -- Finished 3/17/04 -- Elmo WIP: Fireman's Prayer, Amid Amish Life, Angel of Autumn, Calif Sampler, Holiday Snowglobe Paralegal - Writer - Editor - Researcher http://hometown.aol.com/kmc528/KMC.html
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#59
March 27th 04, 08:20 PM
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Cheryl Isaak had some very interesting
things to say about Scrapbooking WAS Meet Matilda Mallstomper: I'm with Cheryl -- I don't "get" the current scrapbooking trend. Oh thank goodness - I have wondered if I was the only person not into it. And stamping for that matter. Not my thing either [although rubber stampers use stuff that also works nicely on polymer clay :-)]. -- "Don't mess with major appliances unless you know what you are doing (or unless your life insurance policy is up-to-date)." - John, RCFL
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#60
March 27th 04, 09:35 PM
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K, you gave a wonderful explanation of scrapbooking!
Most of us have a drawer or box filled with old photos and other odds and ends of our lives waiting for something to be done, so it's a great idea to layout these pieces creatively in an album. Scrapbooking has its roots back to the 18th century. Women have been keeping journal scrapbooks and albums through the ages, illustrated with watercolor and bits of whatever could be saved of their daily lives. I'm attracted to "scrapbooking" but not in the memory sense of family trees......my interests are similar to your vacation and garden scrapbooks. This is a wonderful craft and trend that looks to be staying popular for a long while yet as more and more people are drawn to it. Artist's scrapbook albums and journals are fascinating to look through. A few of these beautiful watercolor journal / sketchbooks have been published in the last few years. I've been a journal keeper for most of my life......keeping journals on the many aspects of my life, such as the various art & design disciplines I work on.........as I posted earlier, wish I had kept a "scrapbook" of my life through the years but never thought to "illustrate" them. I've only recently started to draw simple little sketches in my design journals.......nothing "fancy" at least not yet....... --- Lula http://www.woolydream.com Needlework Adventures K K wrote: As an avid scrapbooker, I do it because I like to share memories. I did a scrapbook of my parents' 50th anniversary party that included the cards from those who attended as well as their photos, with notes written by each one to my parents. Many of these people have since died, and a scrapbook is one way to gather all of these memories from many people to pass on to my parents' granchildren. I also scrapbooked a lot of the memoribilia my mother had of my father, who passed away two years ago (and this is an on- going project...). Doing that I learned things about my Dad that I didn't know, including the fact that he was one of the first people to take the SATs. Again, gathering all this in one place, with the photos and the written notes describing the importance of everything there,is a way to pass these memories on. I don't cut the photos down to just someone's face; seeing the car or the house or the landscape in the background puts it all in context. I also scrapbook my vacations, including photos, pamphlets, maps, coasters, matchbooks, and anything else I can gather (the New Orleans book has beads in it and the Key West and Hawaii books have shells and sand). When friends come over for dinner or parties, they know where my scapbooks are and look to see what's new. At least two couples have in part planned their vacations around my scrapbooks! They found it inspiring to see photos of Fort Jefferson and the Dry Tortugas, for example, next to the brochure of the ferry and the map of the fort. Seeing photos of black sand beaches on pages laid out to look like a black sand beach, and photos of Volcanos National Park with my journaled impressions of the experience influenced another couple in their decision to go to Hawaii. I scrapbook photos of my balcony garden every year, including the tags from plants or the labels from seeds. That allows me to go back year after year and either duplicate what I did before or try something new. I've scrapbooked cross stitch projects, with the pattern in a sleeve on one page and the photos of the front, back, and details on the opposite one. Since I give away most of what I stitch, it's the only way I can keep records of what I've done. Not trying to make anyone a scrapbook convert, just trying to explain that it's more than just cutting out faces and slapping them on some pretty paper. It's yet another creative outlet for me. K
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