OT - Please Help Ladies!! Restroom Etiquette - Your Opinions Needed!!

In article ,
Judy Grevenites writes
Handicapped stalls in the US are larger, the toilet is set higher, there
are grab bars mounted for hand holds, but there are no mirrors or sinks
in them. This is one reason people are confused. --By the way Marie, I
apologise for snapping the other night, my bad mood doesn't give me the
right to be nasty. I'm sorry. RedQueen



That's OK. There is obviously a difference between our countries as
regards the furnishing and use of disabled toilets.
--
Marie Lewis

In article , NightMist
writes
I don't share facilities (at the same time) with men. Period. Not in my
family and not with strangers. That is why there are two restrooms. We
could eliminate this issue entirely if everyone just used a unisex
together. We don't. Why?

I honestly haven't a clue.
It has always seemed rather silly to me.

To me, too

I have met women who seem to be convinced that any man anywhere will
leap upon any woman they happen across given half a chance.
Perhaps it is that kind of nonsense, or the puritan hangover that you
see in some archaic laws and whatnot.

It is also something that those same puritanical western women will
criticise, for example, Muslim people for.

Is there anyone who does not know what loos are for?

Are there so many Peeping Toms in the USA?

I do not believe that there are.

--
Marie Lewis

Most of the handicap stalls I've been in DO have a mirror and a sink.

--
LN in NH
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"Denise" wrote in message
...

They do exist in the United states. Having traveled extensively throughout
the
midwest and west, I've seen many facilities with this setup. The
handicapped
stall is practically self-sufficient with a sinke and mirror inside the
stall
with the toilet. I do believe some of the newer Walmarts have this here in
the
Southeast. My previous employer had some restrooms like this as well.

Denise

Shelly: Are you sure this says what you wanted it to say? Perhaps
you meant something different and your wording is off? I ask
because I am astounded. In my never humble opinion, your comment
is way out of line. How can you or any of us know the extent of
another person's personal challenges? I would imagine that some
people have difficulty transferring in/out of the wheelchair.
Some people may have difficulty with reaching and/or handling
clothing. Also, the remark about hiring a travel companion is
bizarre, to say the least. Who do you know that can afford to
hire a companion and pay the traveling expenses too? Please
refrain from making such uncaring comments in future. This is
generally a warm and caring news group, even when we don't see
eye to eye on politics, grammar, and pre-washing fabric! Thanks
for your attention.
PAT in VA/USA

Shelly wrote:

Marie, I think your more than capable of handling your own personal needs in
a bathroom. If not, maybe you should hire someone of the appropriate gender
to attend your needs when you travel. Neither of you would be very happy
with me should I chance across your hubby in a women's bathroom. ;o) Or
maybe better yet, go with your hubby to the men's room. If it's fine for the
men to come into the ladies room, then turn about is fair play, huh?
Can you not wheel yourself into the restroom, close the door behind you and
tend your own needs? If not, how do you manage when your dh is not at home
with you?
Shelly
Who doesn't think that grown men belong in the ladies rooms.

Nearly melting the keyboard from friction of those fast fingers, Marie
I am, however, totally amazed at how many non-disabled people on this
group freely state that they use disabled loos.

Well, at least here in Minnesota, there's no law saying we cannot use the
disabled stall in the restrooms. The wider stalls with mounted rails are
there for the convenience of, but exclusive use by, those who have
difficulty getting seated and rising. That includes the elderly as well
as others who have mobility problems. If it's the only open stall at the
time and there isn't someone in line who is in a chair or otherwise
requires it, I'll use it. You bet.

Not so with the disabled parking spots. Park there without proper
credentials and it is a $200 fine. In my city, there are citizen
volunteers who make sure cars without the handicap tag or licenseplate
that are parked in handicap parking areas are ticketed and, in some cases,
towed at the owner's expense.


Judy in Rochester, MN

NightMist wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:00:52 -0500, Charlotte
wrote:
We
could eliminate this issue entirely if everyone just used a unisex
together. We don't. Why?


I honestly haven't a clue.
It has always seemed rather silly to me.

I have met women who seem to be convinced that any man anywhere will
leap upon any woman they happen across given half a chance.
Perhaps it is that kind of nonsense, or the puritan hangover that you
see in some archaic laws and whatnot.

NightMist

How about stage fright?

-Charlotte

It must be hit and miss, because most of them around here do not.

--
Teresa in Colorado

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"LN (remove NOSPAM)" wrote in message
...
Most of the handicap stalls I've been in DO have a mirror and a sink.

--
LN in NH
a crazy quilter * hand quilter * & hand appliquér
all in all --- a very slow quilter.... So send quilts!
http://photos.yahoo.com/lns_obsessed

"Denise" wrote in message
...

They do exist in the United states. Having traveled extensively
throughout
the
midwest and west, I've seen many facilities with this setup. The
handicapped
stall is practically self-sufficient with a sinke and mirror inside the
stall
with the toilet. I do believe some of the newer Walmarts have this here
in
the
Southeast. My previous employer had some restrooms like this as well.

Denise

Pat in Virginia wrote:

Shelly: Are you sure this says what you wanted it to say? Perhaps
you meant something different and your wording is off? I ask
because I am astounded. In my never humble opinion, your comment
is way out of line. How can you or any of us know the extent of
another person's personal challenges? I would imagine that some
people have difficulty transferring in/out of the wheelchair.
Some people may have difficulty with reaching and/or handling
clothing. Also, the remark about hiring a travel companion is
bizarre, to say the least. Who do you know that can afford to
hire a companion and pay the traveling expenses too?

My great-grandfather turns 100 on December 18th. He now has difficulty
with his bathroom routine. When he travels (and he does) he travels with
a male companion or not at all.

I think that common courtesy goes both ways.

-Charlotte

Nearly melting the keyboard from friction of those fast fingers, Marie
Lewis tapped in the following:


I have never seen a "family" toilet either in Europe or on my extensive
travels in the USA.

Must not have visited places like Mall of America. They have His, Hers,
and Family.


Judy in Rochester, MN

Nearly melting the keyboard from friction of those fast fingers, Butterfly
tapped in the following:

But they may require a HIGHER stool....AND the handrail to make getting
up and down easier.
Butterfly

Or may not be able to "hold it" until a "regular" stall opens.

been there, done that...
Judy in Rochester, MN