What do you think about......?

I was more than happy with the last two versions. I opted for Table
hoping that was the one I wanted because I didn't really understand
the Directory format question! I thought I would only get the Word
one, but I got them in both Excel and as a Word Document, so was
doubly happy, though I only actually use the one that comes in Word,
still being a bit wary of Excel! (Most of the excel tables I have seen
contain lots of numbers, and I am terrified of numbers - numbers =
Maths - this has produced an aversion to Excel in any form! There must
be numbers in there somewhere lurking ready to jump out and get me!).

Thanks for all your hard work. I am full of admiration.
--
Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)
http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin


On 14 Jul 2006 14:17:57 -0700, "AliceW in NJ"
wrote:

Well, thanks for your responses. I don't think we need to go any
further with that idea!
I don't want to risk any problems with the Directory, so we'll keep the
process the same as we have been doing it. No problem!

Alice who has now gone to the Directory form to start dusting it off!

AliceW in NJ wrote:
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

i'll bite, Sally.
how can you be so afraid of numbers and make quilts?
you can not make a quilt without math.
even if its all applique or a full cloth quilt it still needs math
somewhere/somehow.
cheers,
jeanne
--
san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz
nzlstar on yahoo msg'r
nzlstar on webshots
gen.gen.co.nz

"Sally Swindells" wrote...
I was more than happy with the last two versions. I opted for Table
hoping that was the one I wanted because I didn't really understand
the Directory format question! I thought I would only get the Word
one, but I got them in both Excel and as a Word Document, so was
doubly happy, though I only actually use the one that comes in Word,
still being a bit wary of Excel! (Most of the excel tables I have seen
contain lots of numbers, and I am terrified of numbers - numbers =
Maths - this has produced an aversion to Excel in any form! There must
be numbers in there somewhere lurking ready to jump out and get me!).

Thanks for all your hard work. I am full of admiration.
--
Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)
http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin


On 14 Jul 2006 14:17:57 -0700, "AliceW in NJ"
wrote:

Well, thanks for your responses. I don't think we need to go any
further with that idea!
I don't want to risk any problems with the Directory, so we'll keep the
process the same as we have been doing it. No problem!

Alice who has now gone to the Directory form to start dusting it off!

AliceW in NJ wrote:
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?

In article .com,
"AliceW in NJ" wrote:

Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
and just a wealth of other despositories.

With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.

One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
database, limits access to the other areas as well.

I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
insights to this with Yahoo Groups?

Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.

Ok, what do you think?


Alice, I'm not excited about this idea, though I'll admit it would cut
down on work for you and consolidate everything quite nicely. I'm leery,
though, for a couple of reasons.

First, just the other day, the database on Carol Doak's new group
disappeared. Completely. Not a trace of it left, and neither of the two
moderators (Carol and Trish) had touched it.

Second, and more importantly, there's no way to ensure that the database
wouldn't be accessible to everyone, since RCTQ is open to everyone. Just
look at how recently we were "burned" by someone we trusted and who
would have had access to the database. Granted, she also had access to
the directory, but we have the option there of changing our information
and not giving her the updates.

In addition, even the photo space allotted to Yahoo groups is limited;
we'd run out before we'd had time to turn around! OTOH, putting
databases up with our opinions about various SM models, places, etc.,
would be wonderful, and we wouldn't have to care who had access to it!

JMHO.
--
Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas
my ISP is earthlink.net -- put sfoster1(at) in front
http://home.earthlink.net/~sfoster1

AKA Dame Sandy, Minister of Education

All valid points and I really appreciate the time everyone took to respond.

--
Alice in NJ, Royal Cybrarian
http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/
"Just about the time a woman thinks her work is done, she becomes a
grandmother." Edward H. Dreschnack



"Sandy Foster" wrote in message
...
: In article .com,
: "AliceW in NJ" wrote:
:
: Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
: just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I
: looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a
: database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be
: used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files
: and just a wealth of other despositories.
:
: With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in
: the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for
: all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place
: for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.
:
: One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once
: in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group.
: It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the
: open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the
: database, limits access to the other areas as well.
:
: I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all
: the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any
: insights to this with Yahoo Groups?
:
: Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory
: information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by
: the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can
: be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.
:
: Ok, what do you think?
:
:
: Alice, I'm not excited about this idea, though I'll admit it would cut
: down on work for you and consolidate everything quite nicely. I'm leery,
: though, for a couple of reasons.
:
: First, just the other day, the database on Carol Doak's new group
: disappeared. Completely. Not a trace of it left, and neither of the two
: moderators (Carol and Trish) had touched it.
:
: Second, and more importantly, there's no way to ensure that the database
: wouldn't be accessible to everyone, since RCTQ is open to everyone. Just
: look at how recently we were "burned" by someone we trusted and who
: would have had access to the database. Granted, she also had access to
: the directory, but we have the option there of changing our information
: and not giving her the updates.
:
: In addition, even the photo space allotted to Yahoo groups is limited;
: we'd run out before we'd had time to turn around! OTOH, putting
: databases up with our opinions about various SM models, places, etc.,
: would be wonderful, and we wouldn't have to care who had access to it!
:
: JMHO.
: --
: Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas
: my ISP is earthlink.net -- put sfoster1(at) in front
: http://home.earthlink.net/~sfoster1
:
: AKA Dame Sandy, Minister of Education

We use a Yahoo site for the Virtual Quilters and have data
bases for email contact, but I don't think I would be keen
to add much more personal info than that to a Yahoo
database, certainly not mail addresses.

I think of Yahoo as the lowest common denominator and I have
a Yahoo email address (see sig block) but it is not the
email account I use most often. I use it for "screening"
and to cut down on SPAM in my "real" email address.

Databases of ratings on products would be nice to have and
refer to . . . . . . but would we use it? LOL I seem
to remember a "thanks" group being set up recently and most
thanks still seem to appear here on ng. I kinda like that
so it doesn't worry me.

Happy to go with the flow on most things but don't think I
would add to a Yahoo directory myself.

Alice - I do realise that this would make your life a lot
easier, and I so appreciate all the work you put in on the
Directory. If there is any way I can help, please just
call. Distance is pretty much irrelevant when dealing with
files and I can probably run a database for you if you want
one.

--

Cheryl & the Cats
_ _ _ _ _ _
( Y ) ( Y ) ( Y )
~ ~ ~
Enness Boofhead Donut
Now in hibernation with a wake-up call for Spring!
http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest
catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau



"AliceW in NJ" wrote in message
oups.com...
: Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one
place? I was
: just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I
moderate and I
: looked at all the extras that are included with a group.
There is a
: database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template
that can be
: used for other kinds of collections; files areas for
photos and files
: and just a wealth of other despositories.
:
: With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we
mention in
: the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central
location for
: all the information we share. Plus, there could be one
central place
: for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc.
:
: One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a
database. Once
: in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership
to the group.
: It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks
wouldn't miss the
: open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit
access to the
: database, limits access to the other areas as well.
:
: I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a
group while all
: the other features are open to the group members. Anyone
have any
: insights to this with Yahoo Groups?
:
: Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the
Directory
: information? It would be a private group, with membership
screened by
: the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose
identities can
: be confirmed would be allowed into the Group.
:
: Ok, what do you think?
:

In article ,
"AliceW" wrote:

All valid points and I really appreciate the time everyone took to respond.

--
Alice in NJ, Royal Cybrarian
http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/
"Just about the time a woman thinks her work is done, she becomes a
grandmother." Edward H. Dreschnack


Alice, I should have read the entire thread before responding. I didn't
see that you'd already made your decision until after I'd hit the "send"
key. Sorry!
--
Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas
my ISP is earthlink.net -- put sfoster1(at) in front
http://home.earthlink.net/~sfoster1

AKA Dame Sandy, Minister of Education

Either you read what I said sideways, or I said it badly.

Try again....

If you want an open access group, for both people who are in the
directory and those who are not, and wanted to use the database for
the directory, you would have to mod everybody in the directory in
order for them to be able to access it and still keep those who are
not in it from being able to access it.
Hence it being more sensible to create a seperate group for just the
directory if you were gonna do it with groups.

NightMist
probably leftout big hunks of the trail of thought that got there,
again.

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:53:28 +0200, "Jessamy"
wrote:

This is not true - you can set the group to allow members almost anything :
start a Poll, a database, file, post a picture there is no need to make them
all moderators to do this.

--
Jessamy
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I went an poked around the managment section of the group I got
suckered into helping moderate.
Any feature can be limited to moderators only, while leaving the rest
of the features open to the group.
So if you wanted to do this with a single group, you would have to
make everybody in the directory a moderator. While this appeals to my
Erisian sensibilities, I can see potential problems with it.
Since the whole mess is password protected, you could in theory create
a group just for the directory.

NightMist
--
The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.



--
The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.

Karen, Queen of Squishies wrote:
I don't think I'd be comfortable, nor would it be convenient for me, to have
all the directory information online.
Ditto for me

Julia in MN



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http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/

Ahh I see now!

yes that would indeed be the only solution but then one would have to
restrict what the "mods" could do so that nobody accidentally deleted the
group ;-)

nope you put enough in for me to grasp what I couldn't last night :-)

--
Jessamy -- feeling slightly brighter than a glow worm but not by much today
LOL
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Either you read what I said sideways, or I said it badly.

Try again....

If you want an open access group, for both people who are in the
directory and those who are not, and wanted to use the database for
the directory, you would have to mod everybody in the directory in
order for them to be able to access it and still keep those who are
not in it from being able to access it.
Hence it being more sensible to create a seperate group for just the
directory if you were gonna do it with groups.

NightMist
probably leftout big hunks of the trail of thought that got there,
again.

That's what I've gt a DH who can do sums for!

Actually I do manage - the numbers aren't very big! My spacial
awareness is pretty unaware too! EQ5 is proving very useful! Excel
though means big numbers and formulae to me!

Much of it comes from rotton teaching and being belittled as a child.
Maths was considered praisable, but the arty things I could do were
just playing. Still, I usually get by.

Both DD and DS are mathmatically literate, and can do big sums! They
were encouraged in whatever they wanted to do.
--
Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)
http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:16:39 +1200, "nzlstar*"
wrote:

i'll bite, Sally.
how can you be so afraid of numbers and make quilts?
you can not make a quilt without math.
even if its all applique or a full cloth quilt it still needs math
somewhere/somehow.
cheers,
jeanne