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What do you think about......?
Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was
just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. Ok, what do you think? |
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What do you think about......?
On 14 Jul 2006 09:21:21 -0700, "AliceW in NJ"
wrote: Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. I purely detest Yahoo. However, they bought every darn mail group I belonged to, so I am kind of stuck with them. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? I went an poked around the managment section of the group I got suckered into helping moderate. Any feature can be limited to moderators only, while leaving the rest of the features open to the group. So if you wanted to do this with a single group, you would have to make everybody in the directory a moderator. While this appeals to my Erisian sensibilities, I can see potential problems with it. Since the whole mess is password protected, you could in theory create a group just for the directory. Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. I think a lot of people would be uncomfortable with the idea of putting the directory into a web accessible place. They would have a point. Yahoo is one of the most heavily hacked and attacked places online. Plus you know that when they did one of their infamous upgrades would be right exactly when you need to get a dozen adresses. The most irksome part though would be that people who do not regularly access Yahoo would almost certainly have to nag a mod to regain access at least once, probably more. If you do not sign in and access your group(s) regularly Yahoo tends to forget who you are and what you are there for. I took a month off once and it took two more to figure out how to convince Yahoo to allow me to post again. Since I am doing the mod thing now, 9/10s of my duties seem to be involved with helping people get back into the group after Yahoo has forgeotten that they are members. NightMist -- The wolf that understands fire has much to eat. |
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Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place?
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I'm in a couple of swap where we use Yahoo for address and other
information. I guess security is ok. However, if we make it a "resource center" for RCTQ, then anyone not joining the group is left out. And I believe the only way to restrict access to directory information there is to restrict access to the whole site. so those not wanting their info in the directory won't be able to access the resource site. Personally, I (sometimes) follow people's links when they are posted, but I don't go looking for pics etc very often. I doubt I would use the group except for directory purposes. If setting one up makes directory keeping easier, then I would suggest you just do it for the directory - but that is only my opinion. I do think it would be easier to maintain the directory, as people would be doing that themselves by updating their own info. As to joining, we would still need to get an invite, so it could be along the lines of posting on RCTQ "if you want to join, please email Alice". And then you check if they are known to the newsgroup and send them an invite. Hanne in London AliceW in NJ wrote: Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. Ok, what do you think? |
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I don't think I'd be comfortable, nor would it be convenient for me, to have
all the directory information online. Karen, Queen of Squishies Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. Ok, what do you think? |
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Howdy!
Directory: I don't care; y'all do as you please. g Wouldn't you have to have 2 yahoo groups, one for the directory for those insiders and the other group for those who aren't in the directory but would want to be included in the "stuff" portion? The other "stuff" is in at least one place, via the Google archives. Other thoughts about this issue: keep it simple. Too many rules and regs are just too much trouble to handle; the moderator goes off somewhere and the group is stuck w/ no access to change things. ISPs work differently, some would have easier access, others wouldn't. Some can get in, some can't-- that does seem awfully American, tho', some are entitled, some are more worthy ....g ISSUES would come up, more issues. Hurt feelings, impatience, confusion--sheesh! It's summer here; that's enough trouble. 8- Too many rules and regs gets to be like a few quilt guilds I know, over-organized and not as much fun. We're all so good at answering questions about RCTQ right here on RCTQ!!!!--imagine that-- why put the answers elsewhere? That's my thoughts, answering the subject line question. Your mileage will vary. Good luck. Ragmop/Sandy--cool in the a/c ;-P On 7/14/06 1:01 PM, in article e98m66$v12$1@qmul, "Hanne Gottliebsen" wrote: I'm in a couple of swap where we use Yahoo for address and other information. I guess security is ok. However, if we make it a "resource center" for RCTQ, then anyone not joining the group is left out. And I believe the only way to restrict access to directory information there is to restrict access to the whole site. so those not wanting their info in the directory won't be able to access the resource site. Personally, I (sometimes) follow people's links when they are posted, but I don't go looking for pics etc very often. I doubt I would use the group except for directory purposes. If setting one up makes directory keeping easier, then I would suggest you just do it for the directory - but that is only my opinion. I do think it would be easier to maintain the directory, as people would be doing that themselves by updating their own info. As to joining, we would still need to get an invite, so it could be along the lines of posting on RCTQ "if you want to join, please email Alice". And then you check if they are known to the newsgroup and send them an invite. Hanne in London AliceW in NJ wrote: Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. Ok, what do you think? |
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This is not true - you can set the group to allow members almost anything :
start a Poll, a database, file, post a picture there is no need to make them all moderators to do this. -- Jessamy In The Netherlands Take out: so much quilting to reply. Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow www.geocities.com/jess_ayad http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I went an poked around the managment section of the group I got suckered into helping moderate. Any feature can be limited to moderators only, while leaving the rest of the features open to the group. So if you wanted to do this with a single group, you would have to make everybody in the directory a moderator. While this appeals to my Erisian sensibilities, I can see potential problems with it. Since the whole mess is password protected, you could in theory create a group just for the directory. NightMist -- The wolf that understands fire has much to eat. |
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to be honest I'd rather not - for starters it's online and not on my
computer and can't be downloaded for use on a computer -- Jessamy In The Netherlands Take out: so much quilting to reply. Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow www.geocities.com/jess_ayad http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. Ok, what do you think? |
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Furgetaboutit! was What do you think about......?
Well, thanks for your responses. I don't think we need to go any
further with that idea! I don't want to risk any problems with the Directory, so we'll keep the process the same as we have been doing it. No problem! Alice who has now gone to the Directory form to start dusting it off! AliceW in NJ wrote: Using a Yahoo group for collecting all our "stuff" in one place? I was just posting a message on one of the Yahoo groups I moderate and I looked at all the extras that are included with a group. There is a database, an address book, a recipe file, a blank template that can be used for other kinds of collections; files areas for photos and files and just a wealth of other despositories. With all the favorites places, gadgets, sewing machines we mention in the newsgroup, it would surely be nice to have one central location for all the information we share. Plus, there could be one central place for pictures of hugs, round robins, BOMs etc. One thing I thought of was putting the Directory in a database. Once in there, it could be accessed by anyone with membership to the group. It could be updated as needed or monthly plus folks wouldn't miss the open form timeframe. One problem I see is that to limit access to the database, limits access to the other areas as well. I'm not sure if you can limit access to a feature of a group while all the other features are open to the group members. Anyone have any insights to this with Yahoo Groups? Would folks be willing to use a Yahoo Group for the Directory information? It would be a private group, with membership screened by the moderator with help from you all. Only those whose identities can be confirmed would be allowed into the Group. Ok, what do you think? |
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Furgetaboutit! was What do you think about......?
thanks, Alice, cuz i just dont feel much like thinking today.
whewwww, got out of yet another thot process that gets me nowhere. jeanne -- san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz nzlstar on yahoo msg'r nzlstar on webshots gen.gen.co.nz "AliceW in NJ" wrote... Well, thanks for your responses. I don't think we need to go any further with that idea! I don't want to risk any problems with the Directory, so we'll keep the process the same as we have been doing it. No problem! Alice who has now gone to the Directory form to start dusting it off! AliceW in NJ wrote: snipped Ok, what do you think? |
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