Shipping SG panels

Hi folks,
I'd appreciate some words of wisdom on how best to package SG panels
for shipping.
Bart.

tinnitus, custom compensated bridges,
tabs, stained glass: www.haruteq.com

**may your moments of need be met by moments of compassion**

I sold off about 10 antique panels on ebay (none left) and I used the one
inch thick styrofoam sheets cut about 2 inches bigger than the window.
I then cut some 3/8 plywood the size of the styrofoam. put one on each side
and screwed them together, thus making a "sandwich". Got a few
refrigerator/appliance boxes (heavy cardboard) cut them to size and wrapped
them with that.
charged from $20 to $35 for the packing and ALL arrived safely!



High bidder paid ALL freight charges!



--

In the words of the IMMORTAL USED CAR DEALER:
THERE IS AN ASS FOR EVERY SEAT!

Let me tell you what happened to me. I shipped a framed 30" oval
panelfrom seattle to kings bay Ga. From the mail box express. Now that
ugly brown truck store. It was in a wooden box 48" sq. by 6" deep.
Wrapped in bubble wrap and peanuts. Guy in store looked at it and said
it was ok. asked if I wanted to insure it. How much I say . $1.00 per
$100.00.
Said ok insure for $800.00. This box even had
two chest handles so the gorilla who moved it would have something to
handle it with.
Went the slow route by truck cost me total $94.00 to ship. The store
even put a fragile lable on it. Big red honker you could not miss.
Found out later this only means throw underhand.
Anyway it gets to my daughters house and it has foot prints on the box.
This is friday so she opened the box and it had two cracked pieces.
Told her it could be fixed in Ga for less than $100.00 She called the
ugly brown truck co. They only handle disputes or claims with shipper.
Meaning me. Low and behold it is back in seattle on monday. Jarrettt had
to have driven that truck to go from corner to corner in a weekend.

Got here with 11 broken pieces at the store.
The whole panel had to be replaced. due t o design. Took to glas store
they would build me a new one for the $800.00 Ok go for it.
Panel rady to go to ga again on th e ugly brown truck. They wanted me to
pay shipping again.
Disputed two times with american express.End results I had to pay again.
Found someone going that way in a truck and sent it that way.

So be sure to insure it and not for what it cost you to make it. What
ome one else would charge. They just do not want to pay wat you say it
should cost. And charge it on something other than american express.

Just think I have to pay $94 for my glass not broken to take a truck
ride to Ga and ride back to seattle. They should rename themselves
american business protectors. They s--k.

I take it you aren't a UPS shareholder?

"12345678 23456789" wrote in message
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Let me tell you what happened to me. I shipped a framed 30" oval
panelfrom seattle to kings bay Ga. From the mail box express. Now that
ugly brown truck store. It was in a wooden box 48" sq. by 6" deep.
Wrapped in bubble wrap and peanuts. Guy in store looked at it and said
it was ok. asked if I wanted to insure it. How much I say . $1.00 per
$100.00.
Said ok insure for $800.00. This box even had
two chest handles so the gorilla who moved it would have something to
handle it with.
Went the slow route by truck cost me total $94.00 to ship. The store
even put a fragile lable on it. Big red honker you could not miss.
Found out later this only means throw underhand.
Anyway it gets to my daughters house and it has foot prints on the box.
This is friday so she opened the box and it had two cracked pieces.
Told her it could be fixed in Ga for less than $100.00 She called the
ugly brown truck co. They only handle disputes or claims with shipper.
Meaning me. Low and behold it is back in seattle on monday. Jarrettt had
to have driven that truck to go from corner to corner in a weekend.

Got here with 11 broken pieces at the store.
The whole panel had to be replaced. due t o design. Took to glas store
they would build me a new one for the $800.00 Ok go for it.
Panel rady to go to ga again on th e ugly brown truck. They wanted me to
pay shipping again.
Disputed two times with american express.End results I had to pay again.
Found someone going that way in a truck and sent it that way.

So be sure to insure it and not for what it cost you to make it. What
ome one else would charge. They just do not want to pay wat you say it
should cost. And charge it on something other than american express.

Just think I have to pay $94 for my glass not broken to take a truck
ride to Ga and ride back to seattle. They should rename themselves
american business protectors. They s--k.

i have pretty good luck with UPS but i triple box. I wrap the panel evenly
with bubble, than flat strong cardboard. then big bubble, again evenly. Put
in a box fill with p-nuts. put in a bigger box , filled with p-nuts. So far,
my stuff has been making it, even by tramp steamer to Bonaire!!! I like
bicycle boxes to cut apart and re- tape for the final packing!! m
"Moonraker" wrote in message
...
I take it you aren't a UPS shareholder?

"12345678 23456789" wrote in message
...
Let me tell you what happened to me. I shipped a framed 30" oval
panelfrom seattle to kings bay Ga. From the mail box express. Now that
ugly brown truck store. It was in a wooden box 48" sq. by 6" deep.
Wrapped in bubble wrap and peanuts. Guy in store looked at it and said
it was ok. asked if I wanted to insure it. How much I say . $1.00 per
$100.00.
Said ok insure for $800.00. This box even had
two chest handles so the gorilla who moved it would have something to
handle it with.
Went the slow route by truck cost me total $94.00 to ship. The store
even put a fragile lable on it. Big red honker you could not miss.
Found out later this only means throw underhand.
Anyway it gets to my daughters house and it has foot prints on the box.
This is friday so she opened the box and it had two cracked pieces.
Told her it could be fixed in Ga for less than $100.00 She called the
ugly brown truck co. They only handle disputes or claims with shipper.
Meaning me. Low and behold it is back in seattle on monday. Jarrettt had
to have driven that truck to go from corner to corner in a weekend.

Got here with 11 broken pieces at the store.
The whole panel had to be replaced. due t o design. Took to glas store
they would build me a new one for the $800.00 Ok go for it.
Panel rady to go to ga again on th e ugly brown truck. They wanted me to
pay shipping again.
Disputed two times with american express.End results I had to pay again.
Found someone going that way in a truck and sent it that way.

So be sure to insure it and not for what it cost you to make it. What
ome one else would charge. They just do not want to pay wat you say it
should cost. And charge it on something other than american express.

Just think I have to pay $94 for my glass not broken to take a truck
ride to Ga and ride back to seattle. They should rename themselves
american business protectors. They s--k.

"12345678 23456789" wrote in message
...
Let me tell you what happened to me. I shipped a framed 30" oval
panelfrom seattle to kings bay Ga. From the mail box express. Now that
ugly brown truck store. It was in a wooden box 48" sq. by 6" deep.
Wrapped in bubble wrap and peanuts. Guy in store looked at it and said
it was ok. asked if I wanted to insure it. How much I say . $1.00 per
$100.00.
Said ok insure for $800.00. This box even had
two chest handles so the gorilla who moved it would have something to
handle it with.
Went the slow route by truck cost me total $94.00 to ship. The store
even put a fragile lable on it. Big red honker you could not miss.
Found out later this only means throw underhand.
Anyway it gets to my daughters house and it has foot prints on the box.
This is friday so she opened the box and it had two cracked pieces.
Told her it could be fixed in Ga for less than $100.00 She called the
ugly brown truck co. They only handle disputes or claims with shipper.
Meaning me. Low and behold it is back in seattle on monday. Jarrettt had
to have driven that truck to go from corner to corner in a weekend.

Got here with 11 broken pieces at the store.
The whole panel had to be replaced. due t o design. Took to glas store
they would build me a new one for the $800.00 Ok go for it.
Panel rady to go to ga again on th e ugly brown truck. They wanted me to
pay shipping again.
Disputed two times with american express.End results I had to pay again.
Found someone going that way in a truck and sent it that way.

So be sure to insure it and not for what it cost you to make it. What
ome one else would charge. They just do not want to pay wat you say it
should cost. And charge it on something other than american express.

Just think I have to pay $94 for my glass not broken to take a truck
ride to Ga and ride back to seattle. They should rename themselves
american business protectors. They s--k.


We all have UPS stories to tell. I take out more insurance than I need,
and actually make money when they break stuff. The best was when I sold $15
of broken scrap on EBAY for mosaics. I put it all in a 12 x 12 box, then
UPS. It never got there. Apparently when the driver got to the door, he
shook the box and hearing all the broken glass, he threw it away and marked
it as "broken" on arrival! They paid me the minimum insurance of $100 on a
box of broken scrap glass. Can you beat that one?

--
JK Sinrod NY
Sinrod Stained Glass
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

Go either FedEx or post office. Never do UPS. I hear that they have a huge
conveyer belt and everything dumps onto this belt via chute So that
everything gets dumped on and compressed as it travels along.
Liam

NEVER use the post office. I once shipped an anvil and they broke it.

post pays good in due course.


"Liam Striker" wrote in message
. ..
Go either FedEx or post office. Never do UPS. I hear that they have a
huge
conveyer belt and everything dumps onto this belt via chute So that
everything gets dumped on and compressed as it travels along.
Liam

Don't ship via ugly brown truck if you care about your glass panels....

I shipped several antique stained glass windows. (most went FedEx) , and
went through amazing lengths to make sure they were packed properly.
(cardboard, then high density foam against glass both sides, major wooden
box frame, 1/4 ply outsides, screwed and cleated, etc., over doubled glass
weight.) Buyer wanted Ugly Brown Truck, so I used his shipper and as you
would expect, the panels arrived damaged. No luck getting anything done on
the other end. Had panels shipped back to me and discovered fork lift tire
marks on the box. Seems the Ugly Brown Truck guys decided to drive on the
box... Took it to district and beyond and nobody would take any
responsibility. The inspector suggested I must have dropped it off in that
condition... Insured to the hilt, major cost to ship (and get shipped
back). They drove a damned forklift over it (without completely destroying
the box, but sure dished it in the center) and it's my fault for "not
packing properly???" Needless to say, wouldn't ship anything from my shop
by Ugly Brown Truck anymore, no matter what customer wants. Just can't
afford it. Total direct cost (not including unhappy customer, my time to
try and get get insurance to pay off, time to jump through hoops on phone
and finally get UBT guys to "inspect" packing materials, and so on and on
and on..) were in excess of $1000 before I started thinking about what my
total loss was including non-productive time on the phone and in person with
them... Box looked like they tried to use it as a bridge (dock plate)
between a dock and the truck....

--Rick (still ****ed about the whole episode over 6 years later).


12345678 23456789 wrote:

Let me tell you what happened to me. I shipped a framed 30" oval
panelfrom seattle to kings bay Ga. From the mail box express. Now that
ugly brown truck store. It was in a wooden box 48" sq. by 6" deep.
Wrapped in bubble wrap and peanuts. Guy in store looked at it and said
it was ok. asked if I wanted to insure it. How much I say . $1.00 per
$100.00.
Said ok insure for $800.00. This box even had
two chest handles so the gorilla who moved it would have something to
handle it with.
Went the slow route by truck cost me total $94.00 to ship. The store
even put a fragile lable on it. Big red honker you could not miss.
Found out later this only means throw underhand.
Anyway it gets to my daughters house and it has foot prints on the box.
This is friday so she opened the box and it had two cracked pieces.
Told her it could be fixed in Ga for less than $100.00 She called the
ugly brown truck co. They only handle disputes or claims with shipper.
Meaning me. Low and behold it is back in seattle on monday. Jarrettt had
to have driven that truck to go from corner to corner in a weekend.

Got here with 11 broken pieces at the store.
The whole panel had to be replaced. due t o design. Took to glas store
they would build me a new one for the $800.00 Ok go for it.
Panel rady to go to ga again on th e ugly brown truck. They wanted me to
pay shipping again.
Disputed two times with american express.End results I had to pay again.
Found someone going that way in a truck and sent it that way.

So be sure to insure it and not for what it cost you to make it. What
ome one else would charge. They just do not want to pay wat you say it
should cost. And charge it on something other than american express.

Just think I have to pay $94 for my glass not broken to take a truck
ride to Ga and ride back to seattle. They should rename themselves
american business protectors. They s--k.

Thanks for all the advice folks, much appreciated.

tinnitus, custom compensated bridges,
tabs, stained glass: www.haruteq.com

**may your moments of need be met by moments of compassion**