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How to Hang Traverse Rods
If anyone could point me to an interior decorating link or
do-it-yourself site where they give good directions on how to hang traverse rods, I'd really appreciate hearing fromn you by post here. Thank you. |
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have you tried www.hgtv.com or www.diy.com ?
-- Jalynne Queen Gypsy (snail mail available upon request) see what i've been up to at www.100megsfree4.com/jalynne "Pennsylvania Lady" wrote in message om... If anyone could point me to an interior decorating link or do-it-yourself site where they give good directions on how to hang traverse rods, I'd really appreciate hearing fromn you by post here. Thank you. |
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What in particular did you need to know? I hang them myself without a
problem. Did it for a living a few years back. Do you need to know how to determine the width of the rod in comparison to the width of the drapery? Or do you want to know how to physically install it? "Pennsylvania Lady" wrote in message om... If anyone could point me to an interior decorating link or do-it-yourself site where they give good directions on how to hang traverse rods, I'd really appreciate hearing fromn you by post here. Thank you. |
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"Warrior_13" wrote
What in particular did you need to know? I hang them myself without a problem. Did it for a living a few years back. Do you need to know how to determine the width of the rod in comparison to the width of the drapery? Or do you want to know how to physically install it? Thanks for the clarification--yes, I need to know how to determine the width *and* what to do if studs aren't located at that point. My mom's drapes are 150" wide, and from past experience, I know that wrapping that width drape around a three inch bracket, then deducting the three inch overlap in the center (they're center-closing) should make the width 138". So from the center of her bay window, that makes it 69" each side. The problem is that her 70's ranch home contractor really didn't go overboard with his lumber, if you know what I mean. In addition to there not being a stud at 69" from center, there's no jack stud above the center of the window, making drape supports there impossible. If I put supports at the end of the windows (where there *are* studs), then the drapes will bow toward the center. So this is what I need help with, 'cause I want to get them up by Thanksgiving! Thanks. |
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Ok, the center bracket is not important, meaning you should have 2 inside
brackets for that width. They could be about 44-48 inches in from the end bracket on each side. They should hold better than a single center bracket. The general rule is one inside bracket for every 40-50 inches, even for sheers. This ensures a trouble free rod. Buy the best quality rod you can afford. This makes a difference too. You are correct about deducting the return and overlap from the drapery width to determine the rod width. Make sure you measure the returns, some are smaller or larger than others. A 4-5 inch return is standard for a custom drapery, most ready-mades are 3 - 3 1/2 inches. If you absolutely cannot get into a stud, you will need to use toggle bolts. Make sure you use metal toggle bolts with a wide spreader, at least an inch and a half. You will need to predrill a hole to get the toggle through. Some older homes, like mine, have lathing and plaster walls, but the plaster is very thick, and sometimes I need to use at least a 2 inch screw in order to find it and get it to grab. Just banging a nail in the wall to locate the wood sometimes doesn't work. So check the walls carefully around the window. Another alternative is to hang them from the ceiling if you have the length in the drapery to do that. Are you using a plain rod or a decorative rod? For a plain rod, don't forget to add 1 inch to the height of the bracket based on your drapery length. If your drapery is 84" then mount the rod 85" above the floor. This allows for traversing the rod without dragging the drapery. The top of your drapery should be a minimum 1/4 inch above the top of the rod. I recommend drapery pins rather than hooks, this is what the pros use. Place 1 pin in the drapery and check the fit on the rod. Make a small dot at the bottom of the pin, on the drapery fabric, with a pencil. Remove the pin and measure the distance from the top of the drapery to the dot. Now put a dot on each of the pleats to mark where you will insert the pin. Insert all the pins and hang. If you have a hard time inserting the pins, run each one thru your hair before inserting. It's an old trade secret, makes the pin glide in, works with all pins of any kind. If you are using a deco rod, it's a little harder, as the rings hold the drapery and are sometimes several inches below the top of the rod. Let me know if you need directions for that. No jack stud? Wasn't that a code item in the 70's? Some contractors will use the absolute minimum material for maximum profit, won't they? Hope this helps you and let us know how it worked. "Pennsylvania Lady" wrote in message om... "Warrior_13" wrote What in particular did you need to know? I hang them myself without a problem. Did it for a living a few years back. Do you need to know how to determine the width of the rod in comparison to the width of the drapery? Or do you want to know how to physically install it? Thanks for the clarification--yes, I need to know how to determine the width *and* what to do if studs aren't located at that point. My mom's drapes are 150" wide, and from past experience, I know that wrapping that width drape around a three inch bracket, then deducting the three inch overlap in the center (they're center-closing) should make the width 138". So from the center of her bay window, that makes it 69" each side. The problem is that her 70's ranch home contractor really didn't go overboard with his lumber, if you know what I mean. In addition to there not being a stud at 69" from center, there's no jack stud above the center of the window, making drape supports there impossible. If I put supports at the end of the windows (where there *are* studs), then the drapes will bow toward the center. So this is what I need help with, 'cause I want to get them up by Thanksgiving! Thanks. |
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:24:35 -0800, Pennsylvania Lady wrote:
Thanks for the clarification--yes, I need to know how to determine the width *and* what to do if studs aren't located at that point. My mom's drapes are 150" wide, and from past experience, I know that wrapping that width drape around a three inch bracket, then deducting the three inch overlap in the center (they're center-closing) should make the width 138". So from the center of her bay window, that makes it 69" each side. Hi there, The other thing to bear in mind when calculating all of this is the width of the window is not the width of the curtains. It is quite usual to make your curtains 1.5 to 3 times the width of the window dependent on the wieight of the curtain material and the look you are trying to achieve. Regards, Sarah |
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"Warrior_13" wrote
No jack stud? Wasn't that a code item in the 70's? Some contractors will use the absolute minimum material for maximum profit, won't they? Hope this helps you and let us know how it worked. Whoa! *Thanks*, Warrior_13. I snipped a lot so this wouldn't get lost, and yeah, everything worked out fine. One final question: Do you know any place where you can buy replacement supports for older rods? I notice Kirsch has redesigned their traverse rods so that the new supports are in round, fatter "arcs" instead of the very narrow slotted shape of my mom's circa 1973 rod. I bought an entire new rod yesterday for the sake of the supports, then decided I wasn't going to blow $39.00 just for the sake of two supports...which wouldn't have worked with her old rod anyway (or vice versa). I wanted more than two supports because of 1) the lack of the stud at the pulley ends and 2) the fact you said you should have a support for every 40"-50" of drape. These drapes are 150". So anyway, if you know where I can get older hardware-a website link or anything like that-I'd appreciate hearing from you one last time. (BTW, I downloaded your response and printed it out for several family members. To my knowledge, it's the only place on the entire Internet with actual instructions on how to mount rods. Amazing, how useless the Internet can be unless you're lucky enough to catch the right person's notice on the right newsgroup.) Happy Thanksgiving, Pennsylady |
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Glad everything worked out for you.
Older supports are going to be hard to find, but I would check with some drapery workrooms in your area. They might have them. The people who install the draperies would best know where to find them. There's probably a box full in the back room somewhere, just gathering dust! Otherwise you will have to spring for the new rod. Have you tried http://kirsch.com/main.taf?p=0,5 You can ask if there's a place they still stock them. Another thought is older "mom and pop" drapery stores established in your area. They usually have older stock hanging around a lot longer than a retail chain. And thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it. "Pennsylvania Lady" wrote in message om... "Warrior_13" wrote No jack stud? Wasn't that a code item in the 70's? Some contractors will use the absolute minimum material for maximum profit, won't they? Hope this helps you and let us know how it worked. Whoa! *Thanks*, Warrior_13. I snipped a lot so this wouldn't get lost, and yeah, everything worked out fine. One final question: Do you know any place where you can buy replacement supports for older rods? I notice Kirsch has redesigned their traverse rods so that the new supports are in round, fatter "arcs" instead of the very narrow slotted shape of my mom's circa 1973 rod. I bought an entire new rod yesterday for the sake of the supports, then decided I wasn't going to blow $39.00 just for the sake of two supports...which wouldn't have worked with her old rod anyway (or vice versa). I wanted more than two supports because of 1) the lack of the stud at the pulley ends and 2) the fact you said you should have a support for every 40"-50" of drape. These drapes are 150". So anyway, if you know where I can get older hardware-a website link or anything like that-I'd appreciate hearing from you one last time. (BTW, I downloaded your response and printed it out for several family members. To my knowledge, it's the only place on the entire Internet with actual instructions on how to mount rods. Amazing, how useless the Internet can be unless you're lucky enough to catch the right person's notice on the right newsgroup.) Happy Thanksgiving, Pennsylady |
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