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I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a
handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. -Kalera Mike Firth wrote: Only if you displayed the mold with the pieces, and then maybe not. I am not sure what pressed art glass would mean - I hope it is something beyond putting a glob of glass in a mold and pressing into shape. In the past, some blown pieces used pressed glass for the foot or lid. |
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:37:48 -0800, Kalera Stratton
wrote: I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. -Kalera I have seen 4 or 5 booths in the last couple of years that had scads of glass shapes that they were selling very cheaply. I asked how they did it, one artist to another, I was told they used cast iron baking molds. Buy them in any good cookware shop. They come in all kinds of shapes. I know that almost everybody that does shows needs an inexpensive item that covers their expenses, but it seems like cheating to me..... Barbara Dream Master www.dreamweaverstudio.com If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans. Woody Allen |
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Barbara Otterson wrote:
On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:37:48 -0800, Kalera Stratton wrote: I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. -Kalera I have seen 4 or 5 booths in the last couple of years that had scads of glass shapes that they were selling very cheaply. I asked how they did it, one artist to another, I was told they used cast iron baking molds. Buy them in any good cookware shop. They come in all kinds of shapes. I know that almost everybody that does shows needs an inexpensive item that covers their expenses, but it seems like cheating to me..... Barbara Dream Master www.dreamweaverstudio.com If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans. Woody Allen I see pressed glass as being the various plates that are so common in thrift stores, flower petals, etc. Mass production by factory workers. Individual pieces, no individual "hands on". -- Jack http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/ |
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Using a pre-made mold would be more craft than art, but with a hand-made
mold, it's a different ball of wax. -Kalera Barbara Otterson wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:37:48 -0800, Kalera Stratton wrote: I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. -Kalera I have seen 4 or 5 booths in the last couple of years that had scads of glass shapes that they were selling very cheaply. I asked how they did it, one artist to another, I was told they used cast iron baking molds. Buy them in any good cookware shop. They come in all kinds of shapes. I know that almost everybody that does shows needs an inexpensive item that covers their expenses, but it seems like cheating to me..... Barbara Dream Master www.dreamweaverstudio.com If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans. Woody Allen |
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What's mass-produced about a handmade mold? And would you also bar pate
de verre and fused glass from the "art" category because they, too, use a mold? To me, what should distinguish it as "art" would be whether the mold is handmade and unique, or in the case of fusing, it would depend on the layup... and there's a lot of grey area there. Barring an entire categoy smacks of laziness and ignorance; perhaps the judges aren't qualified to distinguish pressed glass "art" from pressed glass "craft". I think it's sad, because there certainly is't much original pressed glass art, and it's an area I'd like to see encouraged rather than dismissed. -Kalera BrooklynBabe wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:37:48 -0800, Kalera Stratton wrote: I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. It's mass production, essentially, which is the antithesis of craft. .BB. |
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If I like the looks of it IT IS ART! If I don't like it,
I DON"T go around telling everybody else that the piece is no good. ART is in the eye of the beholder - just like observing a good looking woman. I won't address the male side of the question, as I'm not a good judge of male pulchritude (sp)! Hal "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... Using a pre-made mold would be more craft than art, but with a hand-made mold, it's a different ball of wax. -Kalera Barbara Otterson wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:37:48 -0800, Kalera Stratton wrote: I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. -Kalera I have seen 4 or 5 booths in the last couple of years that had scads of glass shapes that they were selling very cheaply. I asked how they did it, one artist to another, I was told they used cast iron baking molds. Buy them in any good cookware shop. They come in all kinds of shapes. I know that almost everybody that does shows needs an inexpensive item that covers their expenses, but it seems like cheating to me..... Barbara Dream Master www.dreamweaverstudio.com If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans. Woody Allen |
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What is behind this question of handmade and massproduced?
It is a long time since I last read a handmade book but many of the printed ones were better. I do appreciate live music but mainly listen to CD's that are machine pressed in ready-made molds. Most bronze sculptures are produced in limited or unlimited editions by foundries. Some classical pieces of Aalto or Wirkkala glassbvare factory produced over decades. The design is art. The pieces do not carry the names of factory workers. -lauri Kalera Stratton wrote: Using a pre-made mold would be more craft than art, but with a hand-made mold, it's a different ball of wax. -Kalera Barbara Otterson wrote: On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:37:48 -0800, Kalera Stratton wrote: I would have a hard time understanding how pressing glass into a handmade mold is somehow less artistic than, say, pate de verre or kilnforming. -Kalera I have seen 4 or 5 booths in the last couple of years that had scads of glass shapes that they were selling very cheaply. I asked how they did it, one artist to another, I was told they used cast iron baking molds. Buy them in any good cookware shop. They come in all kinds of shapes. I know that almost everybody that does shows needs an inexpensive item that covers their expenses, but it seems like cheating to me..... Barbara Dream Master www.dreamweaverstudio.com If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans. Woody Allen |
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Some time after the original thread, it has occurred to me that these
people may be banning the increasingly popular method of dropping molten glass on a marver and pressing a design into it - in other words a cookie with a pattern. These would certainly be cheap and not look creative to most people. Mine look like this http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/neckmold.htm#STAMPS -- Mike Firth Hot Glass Bits Furnace Working Website http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/hotbit46.htm Latest notes http://users.ticnet.com/mikefirth/NTBowl.htm Now 5 places to drop off, do it before Feb 10, Bowls in Dallas & Ft.Worth Feb 20, 11 am "Michele Blank" wrote in message ... do you happen to have a quotable definition of 'pressed glass' ? One show i do has suddenly added that to the list of 'not acceptable to exhibit'...... thanks, m "BrooklynBabe" wrote in message k.net... It's the same thing. Glassworkers call it uranium glass, collectors (particularly of presssd glass) call it vaseline glass. .BB. |
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