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Old March 18th 05, 08:32 PM
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"Melinda Meahan

I would not trust ANY machine sold by Walmart as being deserving of
someone who loves to sew.


Just what is it that happens to sewing machines when the pass through
the
Walmart system?

Can you state specifics about the difference between a Brother sold at
Walmart and the equivalent but much more expensive Brother sold across
the street?

Not just genaralities but facts... specs and model numbers please.

I bought a Brother XL6562 for $150 at Walmart and am delighted with
it. My wife's Singer broke its gears for the third time and we
decided to have a look before getting it fixed again. She also loves
the new one and has no interest in getting the Singer fixed.

Just what is going to happen to change our minds about this because it
came from Walmart?

js


For one thing, you do not get dealer support. If you buy from a dealer, you
get lessons and other help. Walmarts record on warranty issues isn't so hot
either.

You get what you pay for.

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Old March 18th 05, 08:50 PM
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However, those machines don't do embroidery designs.

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Jan wrote:
I agree, less in landfills, but... I paid $$$$ for the last machine and
it lasted 5 years before it was broken beyond repair... and it didn't do
nearly as much as this machine... so, if that helps explain my change in
tactics. ;-)


Find a well-made machine from the 70s that is still in good condition, and
don't get a computerized model. Then you will have a machine that will
last you a looooong time.



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Old March 18th 05, 08:57 PM
Irene Scott
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SNIGDIBBLY wrote:

I disagree - my computerized Singer Athena 2000 was bought in 1976 and is
still running smooth and does a wonderful job. I love it and I really put
it to a test because I made all my children's clothing right down to their
underwear on it. i made my own drapery and furniture covers on it. I
quilted on it. I like my old Athena a lot more than I do the Bernina QE 151
that I paid way too much for. Don't discredit brand names just because it
sits on a Wal-mart shelf either. Wal-mart carries some really nice stuff
for a lot less $$. Go try it out. That's just my humble opinion ...


Actually, the Athena isn't computerized. It was Singer's first
"electronic" machine. It has a circuit board, not a computer, inside.

I have one, too, it sews like a dream. If you'd like to see my machine
collection, check out my webshots album:

http://community.webshots.com/user/herabird

-Irene
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Old March 18th 05, 09:03 PM
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you make a good point.
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I bought a Brother-----not from Walmart, and it is upscale a bit from
theirs, but I found it to be the best value for not a lot of
money.....I gave $400 for it and it sews up a storm!!


The mid-range Brothers are fine. Their low-end ones are "made by the
cheapest bidder" machines. Ditto for Sears low-end machines, Singer
machines, Bernette machines, Viking's low-end machines, etc.



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Old March 18th 05, 09:05 PM
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but Wal-mart does have ones that do!
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However, those machines don't do embroidery designs.

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"Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to reply" wrote
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Jan wrote:
I agree, less in landfills, but... I paid $$$$ for the last machine and
it lasted 5 years before it was broken beyond repair... and it didn't do
nearly as much as this machine... so, if that helps explain my change in
tactics. ;-)


Find a well-made machine from the 70s that is still in good condition,
and don't get a computerized model. Then you will have a machine that
will last you a looooong time.





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Old March 18th 05, 09:08 PM
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wrote:

"Melinda Meahan


I would not trust ANY machine sold by Walmart as being deserving of
someone who loves to sew.


Just what is it that happens to sewing machines when the pass through
the
Walmart system?

Can you state specifics about the difference between a Brother sold at
Walmart and the equivalent but much more expensive Brother sold across
the street?

Not just genaralities but facts... specs and model numbers please.

I bought a Brother XL6562 for $150 at Walmart and am delighted with
it. My wife's Singer broke its gears for the third time and we
decided to have a look before getting it fixed again. She also loves
the new one and has no interest in getting the Singer fixed.

Just what is going to happen to change our minds about this because it
came from Walmart?

js



For one thing, you do not get dealer support. If you buy from a dealer, you
get lessons and other help. Walmarts record on warranty issues isn't so hot
either.

You get what you pay for.

small change



But with WalMart, you take the product back and they either replace it
or refund your money. They don't fix it, they don't teach you how to
use it, but they do take it back for a full refund.

Some of the machines at WalMart are great and well priced. They are
never the TOL machines, but if they do what you want, then you could do
worse. The problem I see is that some buyers will outgrow the machine
rather quickly. That's ok, too, but the low end machines don't give
you many options for growth. However, if they have enough that "comes
with" that may never be a problem for some buyers.

The embroidery news group and email lists are full of posters who have a
low-end embroidery/sewing machine that was their "starter" machine.
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Old March 18th 05, 09:29 PM
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Well i learn something new every day! i drew that conclusion based on my
machine repairman who told me that because I had the first one made that the
"mother board" was guaranteed for life or as long as I owned the machine. I
reckon "mother board" doesn't only apply to computers. Thanks for the info.

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SNIGDIBBLY wrote:

I disagree - my computerized Singer Athena 2000 was bought in 1976 and is
still running smooth and does a wonderful job. I love it and I really put
it to a test because I made all my children's clothing right down to their
underwear on it. i made my own drapery and furniture covers on it. I
quilted on it. I like my old Athena a lot more than I do the Bernina QE
151 that I paid way too much for. Don't discredit brand names just
because it sits on a Wal-mart shelf either. Wal-mart carries some really
nice stuff for a lot less $$. Go try it out. That's just my humble
opinion ...

Actually, the Athena isn't computerized. It was Singer's first
"electronic" machine. It has a circuit board, not a computer, inside.
I have one, too, it sews like a dream. If you'd like to see my machine
collection, check out my webshots album:

http://community.webshots.com/user/herabird

-Irene



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Old March 18th 05, 09:39 PM
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I have a brother 8200 and a Bernina 1630. I have to say that the
regular sewing stitches and the buttonholes on the brother are as
good, and often better than on the Bernina.

Linda
PATCHogue, NY

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Old March 18th 05, 09:47 PM
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Just what is it that happens to sewing machines when the pass through
the Walmart system?


Nothing. It's the choices that Walmart makes that makes the difference.
You will never see a TOL machine there, and you will never see a
top-quality one there, because they go for selling things for low prices.

Can you state specifics about the difference between a Brother sold at
Walmart and the equivalent but much more expensive Brother sold across
the street?


If it's a higher model, it's a better quality.

Most of the sewing machine companies these days don't have uniform
quality through their entire model line as they used to do 30 years ago.
The low-end machines are not good quality. The mid-range and
top-level machines are good quality. With that said, there are
exceptions everywhere in individual machines, I would suppose.

Not just genaralities but facts... specs and model numbers please.


Seeing as though Walmart is likely to ask the manufacturer to issue a
unique model number for their store, as many other mass merchandisers
do, you may never get proof that way.

I bought a Brother XL6562 for $150 at Walmart and am delighted with it.
My wife's Singer broke its gears for the third time and we decided to
have a look before getting it fixed again. She also loves the new one
and has no interest in getting the Singer fixed.


We bought my son a lower-end White machine for $250 and it wouldn't hold
its tension more than a week or two. If you had a Singer that broke its
gears, it could likelyi have been a cheap, made by the lowest bidder
Singer machine. My 50-year-old Singers are still going strong.

Just what is going to happen to change our minds about this because it
came from Walmart?


Maybe you aren't using them for things as heavy as what we do -- denim, etc.
 




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