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"CNYstitcher" wrote in message ... pbbbbbbbbbbt! In all honsety, I didn't see them as a way to get children interested in sewing/quilting. What I saw were extremely garish fabrics thrown together and packaged together for $5 a pop..... Made at slave wages, I'll guarantee. Cindy |
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"Marcella Tracy Peek" wrote in message ... Pre-cut kits have been around what, since the '30's? I had never heard until recently that someone who used a kit wasn't really making their own quilt. I think some quilters are getting a bit "purist" about it all. Are we going to have to start growing our own cotton and weaving our own cloth before we can really call it our own quilt? ;-) Well, darn! I am fairly new at this and I am kind of nervous about choosing colors. I may as well just go buy a quilt since I can't take credit for the quilts I have created using kits. I had lots of fun making them. Doesn't that count for anything? We have people in our guild that believe this way, as well. They will sniff and turn away at the mention of a quilt that has been MQ by a professional. But some of the guild members either don't enjoy the quilting part, or have so many obligations that they would never be able to finish a quilt. But these quilts will always be looked at as "lesser efforts". I don't care whether it is a pre-printed panel, a kit, or if you have taken every shortcut in the world. If you made something, good on ya! Everybody likes to say "live and let live", but very few can actually do it. Cindy and speaking of gaudy, my poor grandma made some pretty wild choices when it came to color combinations toward the end of her life. Whew! I kept them, but those quilts are on the bottom. I think the double knit turquoise had to be the low point. |
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"Susan Laity Price" wrote in message ... There is a place for all of these groups but we must protect the value of the traditional quilt. We don't want future generations to think the project made by the craft quilter is the same as a traditional quilt. But don't you think that the value of a traditional quilt speaks for itself? And are we talking about monetary value? Artistic value? I am a crafter. I will always be a crafter. God gave me the ability to appreciate art, but he didn't grace me with much talent. And that's ok, after years of aspiring to be artistic, I am now content to appreciate and learn from the talent of others. And I will never allow myself to feel that I am lessened somehow because people want to judge my quilt against a standard I will never attain. I like the stuff I make. If nobody else does, I really don't care. This is exactly why I never bring anything to the guild meetings to show. Cindy |
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I just reread my statement from earlier in the day. It does sound a
little pious. I am not talking about the beginner or the occational reproduction of a quilt you have seen. I am talking about always duplicating someone else's design. Never stepping out on your own. The comparison by others of buying pre-made blocks vs. having a longarm quilter finish a quilt is fair on the surface but there is the factor of size when quilting a large quilt. The physical requirements to quilt a queen size piece on my home machine is more than I can deal with. All of this talk about the blocks at JoAnn's will now require me to visit JoAnn's just to see the blocks. Susan |
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ah ok, u'r off the hook then, lol. had me worried.
now then what is your taste and how were those blocks done? those of us who've not got access to even see them would love to know, well i would anyhow. i'm not one who buys precut vegetables with a sachet of sauce and all you gotta do is toss'em all in the pan and cook but then thats me. patchwork is a bit trickier than cooking but theres joy in the making even when things dont go exactly as you'd hoped. ah well.... jeanne -- http://community.webshots.com/user/nzlstar real reply is san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz nzlstar on yahoo msg'r "georg" wrote... nzl* wrote: and what, pray tell, is wrong with chartreuse aka lime, orange and shall we say, hmmmm how bout fuchsia, just to keep the colours all in a lovely combo. ok, then those on black will really POP!!! I don't mind those colors if they are done to my taste. Those weren't. -georg |
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Hear Hear! I started with a kit for my first quilt top. It contained the
pattern and the material - I had to do the cutting and applique and what not. It was easy and mindless but it got me started. Sometimes that's all that it takes. Now I'm happy to play and fondle and do my own thing. But as they say.....horses for courses, every dog has it's way er day, look before you leap.....oh heck, do whatever suits you best! -- Sharon from Melbourne Australia Queen of Down Under http://www.geocities.com/shazrules/craft.html ********************** " Ellison" wrote in message om... Howdy! You are, of course, welcome to have your opinions g including what you say are "3 different types of quilters." ;-) The boundaries seem much wider from my side of the state line g, and I see dozens of different types of quilters. My own style runs between traditional and artistic, with no machine quilting added to any of my projects. Some of my best friends are machine quilters, and some of my favorite quilts were machine quilted before they came to live with me. While I'm not interested in kits from JoAnns, I do remember when those little embroidery kits from the dime store got me started on handsewing when I was 5 yrs. old. Once everyone had a dresser scarf and antimacassar w/ Sandra's embroidery g, it was time to branch out. I started piecing little quilt tops from scraps, then back to pillowcase kits which included the thread and stamped patterns, followed by the tablecloth kits and the rug kits. Several years ago my mom found some Dbl. Wddng. Ring "Quilter Friendly" panels at a fabric shop and just had to have them. She does not quilt anymore g so she sent them to me. For her birthday gift that year, I returned one Finished quilt to her; for my dad's b-day 3 months later, I sent the other Finished quilt; both quilts were treasured by my folks and displayed proudly on their beds. I slept under my dad's quilt when I was down south for his funeral. Mom still has her DWR on her bed. She's happy w/ these quilts, and I reckon "There's no accounting for taste." VBG Back in the 1980s, Mom bought a quilt kit, all fabric included which meant some poly/cotton, for a Broken Star quilt. She got half-way thru' the piecing and got stuck, so she sent the whole wad to her mother and aunts in Illinois. They pieced the top and sent it back to Mom who kept it in a box for several years. When she finally asked me to quilt it, I was happy to help, amazed to see that those handpiecing stitches look so much like mine (altho' there are several generations of quilters on both sides of my family, I did not learn to quilt from those quilters, living 1600 miles away). Once again, my mom received a Finished quilt for her birthday, and treasures it so much that she won't put it on the bed in case someone sits on it. g And my point is that It Takes All Kinds, and There's Something To Please Everyone in the great big world of quilting. Thank god! Cheers! Ragmop/Sandy--handquilter, whatever the style "Susan Laity Price" wrote in message ... When I was publishing regularly in the craft industry it got to the point where the industry thought the American public wanted a craft 80% finished before they started. In other words, the American just wanted to glue a few ready made pieces together and call it their creation. That just wasn't my style and I have moved on to other occupations. I have always said that there are three different types of quilters. This newsgroup is mainly the traditional quilter. We like to experiment with different styles but we do mostly usable quilts. There are the art quilters who make things only to be hung on the wall. They don't factor in that the finished piece will ever be laundered. They just nip and tuck and put the thing together without the aid of any math. The final group is what I call the craft quilter. They haven't much faith in their own creativity. They duplicate exactly someone else's creation. They often make several of the same design because once they figure out how to make it they assume everyone they know will want one. They are drawn to straight forward colors and designs. There is a place for all of these groups but we must protect the value of the traditional quilt. We don't want future generations to think the project made by the craft quilter is the same as a traditional quilt. Susan On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:28:59 GMT, CNYstitcher wrote: Was in JoAnns a few days ago just looking, wasting time...testing out the new glasses (definite difference, but NO headaches!!) and I saw the most disgusting thing they could ever put in front of a quilter......pre-pieced quilt blocks!! Yep, the entire block put together already, about $5 per block. All you need to do is buy however many you need for your desired size, stitche them together into rows/columns and add the batting/backing I was glad, however to notice I wasn't the only one disgusted...a lady and her daughter were in the store looking for fabric for a halloween costume, and when Mom saw them, she loudly said, "You've got to be kidding me!!" Argh!! Well, maybe this is the way to get my Mother into quilting...who knows? Mom2, on the other hand, is taking the plunge and cutting/piecing/birthing her very first quilt as they stay safe in NC while the hurricanes swamp their area of Florida Larisa, disgusted, totally disgusted |
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well I only got into quilting (i'm still not in i'm more in the this
sure looks easier than it is stage) by a cushion quilt kit, i admit it i bought it found it fun and easy enough (they lied it's not that easy when theres no instructions) and gave it to my mum for mothers day she loves it more for my attempts to sew straight than any real beauty in it, but if it wasnt for that kit i'd still be buying my quilts premade. - someone has to buy all these beauties someone else makes ) On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:35:30 GMT, " Ellison" wrote: Howdy! You are, of course, welcome to have your opinions g including what you say are "3 different types of quilters." ;-) The boundaries seem much wider from my side of the state line g, and I see dozens of different types of quilters. My own style runs between traditional and artistic, with no machine quilting added to any of my projects. Some of my best friends are machine quilters, and some of my favorite quilts were machine quilted before they came to live with me. While I'm not interested in kits from JoAnns, I do remember when those little embroidery kits from the dime store got me started on handsewing when I was 5 yrs. old. Once everyone had a dresser scarf and antimacassar w/ Sandra's embroidery g, it was time to branch out. I started piecing little quilt tops from scraps, then back to pillowcase kits which included the thread and stamped patterns, followed by the tablecloth kits and the rug kits. Several years ago my mom found some Dbl. Wddng. Ring "Quilter Friendly" panels at a fabric shop and just had to have them. She does not quilt anymore g so she sent them to me. For her birthday gift that year, I returned one Finished quilt to her; for my dad's b-day 3 months later, I sent the other Finished quilt; both quilts were treasured by my folks and displayed proudly on their beds. I slept under my dad's quilt when I was down south for his funeral. Mom still has her DWR on her bed. She's happy w/ these quilts, and I reckon "There's no accounting for taste." VBG Back in the 1980s, Mom bought a quilt kit, all fabric included which meant some poly/cotton, for a Broken Star quilt. She got half-way thru' the piecing and got stuck, so she sent the whole wad to her mother and aunts in Illinois. They pieced the top and sent it back to Mom who kept it in a box for several years. When she finally asked me to quilt it, I was happy to help, amazed to see that those handpiecing stitches look so much like mine (altho' there are several generations of quilters on both sides of my family, I did not learn to quilt from those quilters, living 1600 miles away). Once again, my mom received a Finished quilt for her birthday, and treasures it so much that she won't put it on the bed in case someone sits on it. g And my point is that It Takes All Kinds, and There's Something To Please Everyone in the great big world of quilting. Thank god! Cheers! Ragmop/Sandy--handquilter, whatever the style "Susan Laity Price" wrote in message .. . When I was publishing regularly in the craft industry it got to the point where the industry thought the American public wanted a craft 80% finished before they started. In other words, the American just wanted to glue a few ready made pieces together and call it their creation. That just wasn't my style and I have moved on to other occupations. I have always said that there are three different types of quilters. This newsgroup is mainly the traditional quilter. We like to experiment with different styles but we do mostly usable quilts. There are the art quilters who make things only to be hung on the wall. They don't factor in that the finished piece will ever be laundered. They just nip and tuck and put the thing together without the aid of any math. The final group is what I call the craft quilter. They haven't much faith in their own creativity. They duplicate exactly someone else's creation. They often make several of the same design because once they figure out how to make it they assume everyone they know will want one. They are drawn to straight forward colors and designs. There is a place for all of these groups but we must protect the value of the traditional quilt. We don't want future generations to think the project made by the craft quilter is the same as a traditional quilt. Susan On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:28:59 GMT, CNYstitcher wrote: Was in JoAnns a few days ago just looking, wasting time...testing out the new glasses (definite difference, but NO headaches!!) and I saw the most disgusting thing they could ever put in front of a quilter......pre-pieced quilt blocks!! Yep, the entire block put together already, about $5 per block. All you need to do is buy however many you need for your desired size, stitche them together into rows/columns and add the batting/backing I was glad, however to notice I wasn't the only one disgusted...a lady and her daughter were in the store looking for fabric for a halloween costume, and when Mom saw them, she loudly said, "You've got to be kidding me!!" Argh!! Well, maybe this is the way to get my Mother into quilting...who knows? Mom2, on the other hand, is taking the plunge and cutting/piecing/birthing her very first quilt as they stay safe in NC while the hurricanes swamp their area of Florida Larisa, disgusted, totally disgusted |
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LOL - my mother was amazed that I got into this - she'd been nagging me for
20 years to learn how to sew (and I resisted all attempts!) and there I go and do it on my own! -- Sharon from Melbourne Australia Queen of Down Under http://www.geocities.com/shazrules/craft.html ********************** "-=- Jennie-=-" wrote in message ... well I only got into quilting (i'm still not in i'm more in the this sure looks easier than it is stage) by a cushion quilt kit, i admit it i bought it found it fun and easy enough (they lied it's not that easy when theres no instructions) and gave it to my mum for mothers day she loves it more for my attempts to sew straight than any real beauty in it, but if it wasnt for that kit i'd still be buying my quilts premade. - someone has to buy all these beauties someone else makes ) On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 22:35:30 GMT, " Ellison" wrote: Howdy! You are, of course, welcome to have your opinions g including what you say are "3 different types of quilters." ;-) The boundaries seem much wider from my side of the state line g, and I see dozens of different types of quilters. My own style runs between traditional and artistic, with no machine quilting added to any of my projects. Some of my best friends are machine quilters, and some of my favorite quilts were machine quilted before they came to live with me. While I'm not interested in kits from JoAnns, I do remember when those little embroidery kits from the dime store got me started on handsewing when I was 5 yrs. old. Once everyone had a dresser scarf and antimacassar w/ Sandra's embroidery g, it was time to branch out. I started piecing little quilt tops from scraps, then back to pillowcase kits which included the thread and stamped patterns, followed by the tablecloth kits and the rug kits. Several years ago my mom found some Dbl. Wddng. Ring "Quilter Friendly" panels at a fabric shop and just had to have them. She does not quilt anymore g so she sent them to me. For her birthday gift that year, I returned one Finished quilt to her; for my dad's b-day 3 months later, I sent the other Finished quilt; both quilts were treasured by my folks and displayed proudly on their beds. I slept under my dad's quilt when I was down south for his funeral. Mom still has her DWR on her bed. She's happy w/ these quilts, and I reckon "There's no accounting for taste." VBG Back in the 1980s, Mom bought a quilt kit, all fabric included which meant some poly/cotton, for a Broken Star quilt. She got half-way thru' the piecing and got stuck, so she sent the whole wad to her mother and aunts in Illinois. They pieced the top and sent it back to Mom who kept it in a box for several years. When she finally asked me to quilt it, I was happy to help, amazed to see that those handpiecing stitches look so much like mine (altho' there are several generations of quilters on both sides of my family, I did not learn to quilt from those quilters, living 1600 miles away). Once again, my mom received a Finished quilt for her birthday, and treasures it so much that she won't put it on the bed in case someone sits on it. g And my point is that It Takes All Kinds, and There's Something To Please Everyone in the great big world of quilting. Thank god! Cheers! Ragmop/Sandy--handquilter, whatever the style "Susan Laity Price" wrote in message .. . When I was publishing regularly in the craft industry it got to the point where the industry thought the American public wanted a craft 80% finished before they started. In other words, the American just wanted to glue a few ready made pieces together and call it their creation. That just wasn't my style and I have moved on to other occupations. I have always said that there are three different types of quilters. This newsgroup is mainly the traditional quilter. We like to experiment with different styles but we do mostly usable quilts. There are the art quilters who make things only to be hung on the wall. They don't factor in that the finished piece will ever be laundered. They just nip and tuck and put the thing together without the aid of any math. The final group is what I call the craft quilter. They haven't much faith in their own creativity. They duplicate exactly someone else's creation. They often make several of the same design because once they figure out how to make it they assume everyone they know will want one. They are drawn to straight forward colors and designs. There is a place for all of these groups but we must protect the value of the traditional quilt. We don't want future generations to think the project made by the craft quilter is the same as a traditional quilt. Susan On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 14:28:59 GMT, CNYstitcher wrote: Was in JoAnns a few days ago just looking, wasting time...testing out the new glasses (definite difference, but NO headaches!!) and I saw the most disgusting thing they could ever put in front of a quilter......pre-pieced quilt blocks!! Yep, the entire block put together already, about $5 per block. All you need to do is buy however many you need for your desired size, stitche them together into rows/columns and add the batting/backing I was glad, however to notice I wasn't the only one disgusted...a lady and her daughter were in the store looking for fabric for a halloween costume, and when Mom saw them, she loudly said, "You've got to be kidding me!!" Argh!! Well, maybe this is the way to get my Mother into quilting...who knows? Mom2, on the other hand, is taking the plunge and cutting/piecing/birthing her very first quilt as they stay safe in NC while the hurricanes swamp their area of Florida Larisa, disgusted, totally disgusted |
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I saw the pre-made blocks at JoAnn's on Saturday.
Some of them were pieced pretty good, considering the pinwheel block had 8 points coming together in the center, and some of them almost matched.... and only a couple of the points on the outside edges would be nipped, unless you pieced them together very carefully with 1/16th-inch seam allowances.... shudder The scary thing is, at $4.99 each, it would cost $100 for a 20 block quilt, set 5 rows of 4 blocks. Since these are only 10-inch (finished) blocks, your $100 quilt top would only be a mere 40" x 50".... unless you buy some extra yardage from bolts prominately displayed beneath the blocks to add borders. And then a bit more if you want matching binding. You can always use one of the generous 40%-off coupons to lessen the price. But you can only use one coupon on ONE block at a time. A far leap from the pre-cut kits which were way cheaper. Gotta hand it to JoAnn though, what a store! Mickie "Marcella Tracy Peek" wrote in message ... I think this might produce a more "real looking" quilt than a pre-printed panel does. So perhaps the company figured they could market the pre-pieced blocks to those who like those panels. Pre-cut kits have been around what, since the '30's? I had never heard until recently that someone who used a kit wasn't really making their own quilt. I think some quilters are getting a bit "purist" about it all. Are we going to have to start growing our own cotton and weaving our own cloth before we can really call it our own quilt? ;-) marcella Pat in Virginia wrote: That is not my cup of tea, but it will probably appeal to a variety of people. Buying commercially made patchwork blocks.... hmm? Is it really any different than piecing your own top and then paying to have it commercially quilted? I think not. Either way, I would not feel it was 'completely' my quilt. I do not fault anyone who wants to work that way though. To each her own! PAT, who is too frugal to do either any how! CNYstitcher wrote: Was in JoAnns a few days ago just looking, wasting time...testing out the new glasses (definite difference, but NO headaches!!) and I saw the most disgusting thing they could ever put in front of a quilter......pre-pieced quilt blocks!! Yep, the entire block put together already, about $5 per block. All you need to do is buy however many you need for your desired size, stitche them together into rows/columns and add the batting/backing I was glad, however to notice I wasn't the only one disgusted...a lady and her daughter were in the store looking for fabric for a halloween costume, and when Mom saw them, she loudly said, "You've got to be kidding me!!" ...cut... |
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