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  #21  
Old January 4th 04, 11:11 PM
Jalynne
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You're exactly right, Kandice!
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"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
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Oh, you guys, I think Diana meant this in a good way - not in a negative
way.... correct me i I am wrong, but I think she meant how do we feel seeing
our pieces made into jewelry....I don't think there was underlying negative
meaning at all. Diana's not like that, from what I can tell.

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http://www.lampwork.net


I am not sure what you really mean by this. It sounds like a redundant
statement to me. You wouldn't do something you hate to do, if it didn't
please you to see your things as finished pieces you wouldn't do them. As
far a pusher of Paua shells, Harry is doing the same as other here by
selling his things. I don't think you meant to offend him, so I hope he
doesn't take your statement as offensive.
Roxan


Thank you. I have been pondering on what the meaning or underlying meaning
of the message may or may not have meant. After some thought I took it to

be
an interest as to weather I was pleased with the item made. I do love Paua

shell and
do not look to make a huge profit from the sell as can be easily seen by

my prices.
My primary goal was to introduce something beautiful to those who have not

seen it.
I hope I have not offened anyone with my post or sells? If I have I am

sorry and
will refrain from doing so in the future. I just wanted to offer a product

that is unique
and perhaps bring some joy to others.

Harry






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  #22  
Old January 4th 04, 11:43 PM
Shirley Shone
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Harry I am glad that you are a fan of Paua shells. I am happy that there
are other people out there that make beads. However when I create
something with the shells and beads that others have supplied. I feel
elated and so proud of myself that my fingers have fashioned a beautiful
item. In fact I have a lot of things that I have created that I will
never wear.
I still keep them because I know I shall treasure them and when ever I
look at them they remind me of whoever sold me the special something
that went into creating it.
Shirley




In article , Harry
writes
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:21:34 -0600, "Diana Curtis"
wrote:

How does it make you feel, as a person, an artist, or pusher of Paua shells,
to see your contribution to the bead word used in a lovely finished piece?
Diana



It was wonderful to see a simple creation of God
turned into something so beautiful. I do wish I had the talent to create such
objects of beauty, but my talent is limited to being able to see what I would
love to create and lusting for the ability to do so. I have many
visions of what
I would like to see made from these marvelous pieces and am in hopes of
others to use their talents to bring them to life.
How does it make me feel as a person? It feels good!
How does it make me feel as an artist? Do not consider myself an artist.
How does it make me feel as a pusher of Paua Shells? Seeing something so
lovely makes me happy that I did.

Harry



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  #23  
Old January 5th 04, 12:46 AM
Louis Cage
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Maybe I'm weird, but when I make things that are to be incorporated into
more finished pieces (like beads or murrini), I feel complemented when
someone chooses to use MY work in THEIR piece. They do not have to use my
items, I'm not the only glassworker out there. But after it leaves my
hands, it becomes part of the other artist's piece and I have no control
over that. Of course it is always nice when my tastes and the jeweler's
tastes are similar so that I like their work, but if our tastes weren't
somewhat similar she probably wouldn't use my beads.
The only time I had any real feelings about the finished piece was when
someone used one of my beads along with some other people's in a gallery
show and gave credit to all the beadmakers but me. Probably just an
oversight, but it still stung a bit.
Oh, and Harry - Rock on with those shells man!
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If you can't make money, try and make art!

"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
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Well, I try not to look at it as being diminished, but as being different
from what I personally do with the things I make. If someone gave one of

my
creations to a child because it was the wrong color....hmmmmm, I am not
sure. I would either be happy for the child, or I might feel the need to
explain the kind of work that goes into the piece. I've never had that
happen, so I am not sure how I would feel.
I have seen some of my beads made into things that I didn't feel were

quite
right, but that's a subjective thing. I try to tell myself that this
person's vision of beauty is just different from my own, and not

necessarily
wrong. It's hard, though - a couple of times I just cringed. No one

here,
though!!

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Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net


Actually I've always wonder how an artist feels when the finished piece
diminished the element she or he created. Or when you make a great

piece
and the giftee gives it to a kid because it's the wrong color or

whatever.
(Something they would not do with a piece of jewelry from a store).

Tina


How does it make you feel, as a person, an artist, or pusher of Paua

shells,
to see your contribution to the bead word used in a lovely finished

piece?
Diana

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  #24  
Old January 5th 04, 01:28 AM
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I wasn't fired up at all, just questioning why she was saying what she said
since not everyone here knows her, that is why I said I didn't think she
meant any offense.
Roxan
"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...
I am not sure what you really mean by this. It sounds like a redundant
statement to me. You wouldn't do something you hate to do, if it didn't
please you to see your things as finished pieces you wouldn't do them.

As
far a pusher of Paua shells, Harry is doing the same as other here by
selling his things. I don't think you meant to offend him, so I hope he
doesn't take your statement as offensive.
Roxan


Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Why is it that so many people on this NG flare up at the least little

thing?
Even the *nothing* little thing? Jeez!

Diana is interested, I would assume (from knowing her well), in getting an
interesting conversation going by asking an interesting question. No

more, no
less. Am I correct, Diana?
~~
Sooz
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"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry."

John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html


  #25  
Old January 5th 04, 01:42 AM
Diana Curtis
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Noooooo!!! Do not stop!! Please! The last thing I wanted to do was offend
anyone here. Perhaps if I rephrase my question it would help?
But Harry.. .in no way do I want to push you out of here. What a delightful
contribution you are to this group, I would sorely miss you and your posts!
What I was asking is...as artists and creators of beads and beady things how
does it make you feel when someone buys your work and transforms it into
jewelry, or .. whatever.. and it becomes something else entirely in your
eyes.. a thing of even greater beauty.
I asked because I saw Harry's reaction to his Paua shell being wire
wrapped, and while I could tell he was pleased I wanted to know more ....
what his *or any other artist * first reaction is.. other than WOW. :-)
Again, let me apologize for not making my question clearer.
Diana

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"Harry" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:08:33 -0500, "roxan"

wrote:

I am not sure what you really mean by this. It sounds like a redundant
statement to me. You wouldn't do something you hate to do, if it didn't
please you to see your things as finished pieces you wouldn't do them. As
far a pusher of Paua shells, Harry is doing the same as other here by
selling his things. I don't think you meant to offend him, so I hope he
doesn't take your statement as offensive.
Roxan


Thank you. I have been pondering on what the meaning or underlying meaning
of the message may or may not have meant. After some thought I took it to

be
an interest as to weather I was pleased with the item made. I do love Paua

shell and
do not look to make a huge profit from the sell as can be easily seen by

my prices.
My primary goal was to introduce something beautiful to those who have not

seen it.
I hope I have not offened anyone with my post or sells? If I have I am

sorry and
will refrain from doing so in the future. I just wanted to offer a product

that is unique
and perhaps bring some joy to others.

Harry




  #26  
Old January 5th 04, 01:45 AM
Diana Curtis
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I hope Harry doesnt feel offended by my question too...I didnt mean to
single Harry out.. all artists and creators of bead were welcome to share
their reactions to seeing their works transformed by other artists.

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"roxan" wrote in message
...
I am not sure what you really mean by this. It sounds like a redundant
statement to me. You wouldn't do something you hate to do, if it didn't
please you to see your things as finished pieces you wouldn't do them. As
far a pusher of Paua shells, Harry is doing the same as other here by
selling his things. I don't think you meant to offend him, so I hope he
doesn't take your statement as offensive.
Roxan
"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
How does it make you feel, as a person, an artist, or pusher of Paua

shells,
to see your contribution to the bead word used in a lovely finished

piece?
Diana

--
Queen of FAQs
Royal Peace Maker
http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44





  #27  
Old January 5th 04, 01:48 AM
Diana Curtis
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Thank you Sooz, yes. Tho my question may have been ill phrased I meant only
to find out how the artists of this group (and yes, Harry, I consider you an
artist) feel when they see the creations of their hands, minds and paua
shell tumblers become transformed but the hands and minds of others.
Thanks!
Diana , *smooches Sooz, nice to see you back *

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Royal Peace Maker
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"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...
I am not sure what you really mean by this. It sounds like a redundant
statement to me. You wouldn't do something you hate to do, if it didn't
please you to see your things as finished pieces you wouldn't do them.

As
far a pusher of Paua shells, Harry is doing the same as other here by
selling his things. I don't think you meant to offend him, so I hope he
doesn't take your statement as offensive.
Roxan


Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Why is it that so many people on this NG flare up at the least little

thing?
Even the *nothing* little thing? Jeez!

Diana is interested, I would assume (from knowing her well), in getting an
interesting conversation going by asking an interesting question. No

more, no
less. Am I correct, Diana?
~~
Sooz
-------
"Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry."

John
Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance
~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links
http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html



  #28  
Old January 5th 04, 01:50 AM
Diana Curtis
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Thank you Kandice. Youre right, Im not usually offensive.. just curious..
and a smarty pants ;-) .... but this was a seriously asked question, asked
in a light hearted tone.
Now, would someone like to answer it? LOL
Diana

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"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
...
Oh, you guys, I think Diana meant this in a good way - not in a negative
way.... correct me i I am wrong, but I think she meant how do we feel

seeing
our pieces made into jewelry....I don't think there was underlying

negative
meaning at all. Diana's not like that, from what I can tell.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net


I am not sure what you really mean by this. It sounds like a redundant
statement to me. You wouldn't do something you hate to do, if it didn't
please you to see your things as finished pieces you wouldn't do them.

As
far a pusher of Paua shells, Harry is doing the same as other here by
selling his things. I don't think you meant to offend him, so I hope he
doesn't take your statement as offensive.
Roxan


Thank you. I have been pondering on what the meaning or underlying

meaning
of the message may or may not have meant. After some thought I took it

to
be
an interest as to weather I was pleased with the item made. I do love

Paua
shell and
do not look to make a huge profit from the sell as can be easily seen by

my prices.
My primary goal was to introduce something beautiful to those who have

not
seen it.
I hope I have not offened anyone with my post or sells? If I have I am

sorry and
will refrain from doing so in the future. I just wanted to offer a

product
that is unique
and perhaps bring some joy to others.

Harry






  #29  
Old January 5th 04, 01:53 AM
Diana Curtis
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Darn straight! I never thought about paua shell before you started posting
and now.. wow...
While Im not much of a beader I see those bits with worlds of color and
think .. I must own some of this, just to look at, to see the sun shine on
it.. to touch it...
Push on Harry!

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http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44

"Kandice Seeber" wrote in message
...
You're an artist. And yep, a Paua shell pusher - and in this group,
that's a GOOD thing. We're all willing!

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net


How does it make you feel, as a person, an artist, or pusher of Paua

shells,
to see your contribution to the bead word used in a lovely finished

piece?
Diana



It was wonderful to see a simple creation of God
turned into something so beautiful. I do wish I had the talent to create

such
objects of beauty, but my talent is limited to being able to see what I

would
love to create and lusting for the ability to do so. I have many visions

of what
I would like to see made from these marvelous pieces and am in hopes of
others to use their talents to bring them to life.
How does it make me feel as a person? It feels good!
How does it make me feel as an artist? Do not consider myself an artist.
How does it make me feel as a pusher of Paua Shells? Seeing something so
lovely makes me happy that I did.

Harry



Harry's Happy Place
http://harryb41.homestead.com/HarrysHappyPlace.html
My Ebay Auctions


http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...id=harryb4 1&
include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50




  #30  
Old January 5th 04, 01:55 AM
Diana Curtis
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Another interesting perspective.. thank you for giving me this to think
about.
Diana

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"Christina Peterson" wrote in message
news:1073253323.71153@prawn...
Actually I've always wonder how an artist feels when the finished piece
diminished the element she or he created. Or when you make a great piece
and the giftee gives it to a kid because it's the wrong color or whatever.
(Something they would not do with a piece of jewelry from a store).

Tina


"Diana Curtis" wrote in message
...
How does it make you feel, as a person, an artist, or pusher of Paua

shells,
to see your contribution to the bead word used in a lovely finished

piece?
Diana

--
Queen of FAQs
Royal Peace Maker
http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44






 




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