Cleaning up copper after torch firing Enamel...

I'm torch firing enamel powders, frits, Diachroic, etc. on 24 oz
copper sheets.. I want to retain some of the natural copper color in
some areas of the pieces after being torched (no underglaze..), so I
need to remove the firescale.

Mostly, I've been using SPAREX #2 and a dremel (with an arsenal of
bits, discs, etc...) and the results have been pretty good but I have
noticed some 'dulling' after cleaning where the end of the glass meets
copper. I want to try and avoid this in future pieces and was
wondering if anyone has a better method of removing the firescale....
( I'm pretty sure the Dremel is causing the 'dulling')....

I read somewhere that "Penny Weight" cleaner is supposed to work
really well with enamel's, metals and is less caustic but I've never
tried it.... Is it any good ?

Also, should I stay away from the dremel for this application ?
Would doing it the 'old fashioned way' ( by hand..) be a better
option ? What would be the recommended sanding grit's / stones etc...
for finishing the enameled / fused piece ? The finest grit I
currently have is wet sanding paper @ 600 and 800 grit which I use to
give the copper some 'tooth' to hold the enamel previous to torching.

Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC



You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

"JK" wrote in message
...

"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC



You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com


Exactly. I "could" offer some specific help. But I won't. He can figure
it out himself. Any answers he gets will end up on D-anus' website.

On Feb 29, 7:30*pm, " Moonraker" wrote:
"JK" wrote in message

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"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

* You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Exactly. * I "could" offer some specific help. *But I won't. *He can figure
it out himself. *Any answers he gets will end up on D-anus' website.- Hide quoted text -

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I think you are in love with him.... He seems to be on your mind a
lot ! Thanks OK though, to each their own. Perhaps you envy him ?
Either way, as you said, this forum is for people who want to
participate...so, either offer some advice or simply.... don't bother
to respond.
No big deal.

Looking forward to hearing from others....

Cheers All,

/FC

On Feb 29, 7:24*pm, "JK" wrote:
"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

* *You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Only cussed out those who deserved it.... (you being one of them...)
I'm pretty sure that you and your little 'pals' aren't the only ones
with sound advice. I do believe you 'over estimate' your standing on
this NG. You and the rest of your 'pals' have no more right to be
here than anyone else. We certainly don't have to 'earn your respect'
either. Having said that, you should take your own advice and not
bother to respond either....
Hypocrisy at it's finest !

Looking forward to any replies....

Cheers,

/FC

"Jman" wrote in message
Looking forward to any replies....

Don't hold your breath on that one.

On Feb 29, 7:12 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 29, 7:24 pm, "JK" wrote:

"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Only cussed out those who deserved it.... (you being one of them...)
I'm pretty sure that you and your little 'pals' aren't the only ones
with sound advice. I do believe you 'over estimate' your standing on
this NG. You and the rest of your 'pals' have no more right to be
here than anyone else. We certainly don't have to 'earn your respect'
either. Having said that, you should take your own advice and not
bother to respond either....
Hypocrisy at it's finest !

Looking forward to any replies....

Cheers,

/FC

Have you given any thought to how much you just being here ****es them
off?

Is it time for me to post another advertisement - or should I wait
until tomorrow?

http://www.vicartglass.com/products/...%20oxygen.html

On Feb 29, 10:53*pm, wrote:
On Feb 29, 7:12 pm, Jman wrote:





On Feb 29, 7:24 pm, "JK" wrote:

"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

* *You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Only cussed out those who deserved it.... (you being one of them...)
I'm pretty sure that you and your little 'pals' aren't the only ones
with sound advice. *I do believe you 'over estimate' your standing on
this NG. *You and the rest of your 'pals' have no more right to be
here than anyone else. *We certainly don't have to 'earn your respect'
either. *Having said that, you should take your own advice and not
bother to respond either....
Hypocrisy at it's finest !

Looking forward to any replies.... *

Cheers,

/FC

Have you given any thought to how much you just being here ****es them
off?

Is it time for me to post another advertisement - or should I wait
until tomorrow?

http://www.vicartglass.com/products/...20oxygen.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Good Stuff !

On Feb 29, 10:53*pm, wrote:
On Feb 29, 7:12 pm, Jman wrote:





On Feb 29, 7:24 pm, "JK" wrote:

"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

* *You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Only cussed out those who deserved it.... (you being one of them...)
I'm pretty sure that you and your little 'pals' aren't the only ones
with sound advice. *I do believe you 'over estimate' your standing on
this NG. *You and the rest of your 'pals' have no more right to be
here than anyone else. *We certainly don't have to 'earn your respect'
either. *Having said that, you should take your own advice and not
bother to respond either....
Hypocrisy at it's finest !

Looking forward to any replies.... *

Cheers,

/FC

Have you given any thought to how much you just being here ****es them
off?

http://www.vicartglass.com/products/...20oxygen.html- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah,

It gives me great pleasure.... It really, really does
...sigh...

On Feb 29, 10:53 pm, Jman wrote:
On Feb 29, 10:53 pm, wrote:



On Feb 29, 7:12 pm, Jman wrote:

On Feb 29, 7:24 pm, "JK" wrote:

"Jman" wrote in message
Any suggestions as to the 'above' would be helpful !

Cheers,

/FC

You've pretty much cussed out everyone here that's qualified to answer
you. I'm one that doesn't cuss, and I have to wonder why you're still here
looking for help when you're pretty much a resident in the kill files?

--
JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Only cussed out those who deserved it.... (you being one of them...)
I'm pretty sure that you and your little 'pals' aren't the only ones
with sound advice. I do believe you 'over estimate' your standing on
this NG. You and the rest of your 'pals' have no more right to be
here than anyone else. We certainly don't have to 'earn your respect'
either. Having said that, you should take your own advice and not
bother to respond either....
Hypocrisy at it's finest !

Looking forward to any replies....

Cheers,

/FC

Have you given any thought to how much you just being here ****es them
off?

http://www.vicartglass.com/products/...ygen.html-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah,

It gives me great pleasure.... It really, really does
...sigh...

You best be careful. You're gunna make their heads explode.

Can I put another ad up?

Please!!!!!!!

I really really want to.

I promise it'll be a nice one. Even got one with pictures for those
fellas that can't read.

Maybe they'd like a video on how to pull their wire?
http://www.glasscampus.com/videos.htm