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Oh, I forgot this in my last post.
Have you found those quotes yet, you lying toad? Keep looking, I'll wait. Brock You are going to be in trouble with the National Toad Breeder's Association if you constantly demean toads by comparing Dennis to one. Hmmm . . . hadn't considered that. Okay, I'll call him a lying turd. Surely turds don't have an association. Brock PS Found those quotes yet, you lying turd? |
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Careful, Brock. http://www.funsta.com/turds/ You better Google "turd"
or you could be in deep doo doo. andy Brock wrote: Oh, I forgot this in my last post. Have you found those quotes yet, you lying toad? Keep looking, I'll wait. Brock You are going to be in trouble with the National Toad Breeder's Association if you constantly demean toads by comparing Dennis to one. Hmmm . . . hadn't considered that. Okay, I'll call him a lying turd. Surely turds don't have an association. Brock PS Found those quotes yet, you lying turd? |
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"Roy " put an "RP" here to reply wrote in message ... On 13 Oct 2006 09:45:53 -0700, wrote: Ok, flame away. I've even dropped every twit filter I've had in this group to make sure I see every argument refuting this post. I really want to hear the logic as to how ranting, raving, name-calling, insults and veiled threats brings people into the hobby. Maybe you'll convince me that common courtesy and respect are a waste of time. I doubt it, but fire away. Regards, Roy You can choose to be as thin skinned as you like Roy. This is usenet, and there's no one here to breakup the fights or punish the bad boys. This goes on in every group I've ever read, from computers to health topics. As far as I know there's only one poster that gets constantly attacked here whenever he pops up. I think you're assuming it happens to everyone. Not true. As for your bad class experience... don't judge an entire profession by one bad teacher. That would be very silly indeed. I've taught 1000's of folks and have not had one refund request in over 25 years. I can't tell you how many really bad teachers I had in my public school days. If I took your advice, I would have quit school before I was 10 years old. See no flames. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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wrote in message ups.com... glassman wrote: I respect your right to lurk, but if each of you would try and become just a tad more out of the closet, just think of how much more fun this place would be. Try one post, or better yet one thread start, or one question. This board is really drying up, and that's the primary reason for the silliness and OT bashing... there's just not much else to talk about. Give some thought to why the lurkers chose to not post. Still waiting to hear about how many of your students that have taken your advice, have successful money making glass businesses running today. What percentage of your students that you teach turbo soldering, and anti 3 tier system buying are making a living doing the kiln work you talk about? In my 25 years of teaching 1000's of students, I could count on one hand the ones that are making a living at it. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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Hi Roy,
Just my 2 cents worth but shouldn't you just get a hobby that you really really enjoy? I don't do glass because of other people. I just think glass is fascinating even if my own work is not that great. -- Connie Ryman Cryman Studio "Roy " put an "RP" here to reply wrote in message ... On 13 Oct 2006 09:45:53 -0700, wrote: glassman wrote: I respect your right to lurk, but if each of you would try and become just a tad more out of the closet, just think of how much more fun this place would be. Try one post, or better yet one thread start, or one question. This board is really drying up, and that's the primary reason for the silliness and OT bashing... there's just not much else to talk about. -- JK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com Give some thought to why the lurkers chose to not post. I started lurking here about a year or so ago when both my wife and I decided we should finally take up the hobby - we'd talked about it for a couple of years. I have since developed the theory that just about every person who does much stained glass work is suffering from some sort of severe personality disorder, perhaps due to lead poisoning. I signed us up for a class. My wife was very uncomfortable with the ranting and raving of the instructor, and never came back after the first meeting. I lasted one more session, got our money refunded, and never went back. A couple of months later, we get this flyer from the guy, saying he's going to do only contract work, is selling off his stock and will never teach another class again. It seems he only had enough people to field a single class in 2005, 5 of the 6 people did not complete it. Evidently, if everyone was not gong to be grateful, well, he'd take his ball and go home. I've read many complaints here about lack of new students, lack of sales, etc over the last year or so. Hey, if you treat your customers like this guy did, how can you be surprised that no one wants to do business with you. I see the same childish rants, raves, personal attacks and foul attitudes all over this newsgroup. It's a shame, because I still think this could be an interesting hobby. But there are many, many other hobbies out there that are just as interesting and rewarding, and they don't seem to come with the abuse heaped on people like the instructor we had, or the unmerited verbal attacks that are commonplace in this newsgroup. I pull headers here once a week or so. If Carol(?) in Turkey has a post in a thread, I tend to pull the bodies for those headers. There is frequently something I can learn from a thread she participates in, because it takes longer, usually, for the hate-mongers here to ruin it.. Most of the rest I will just spot check to see if there is any substance to it, or kill it if has descended into the typical 6-year-old level of name calling that seems to be 90% of the posts. Why don't lurkers post? Probably because they see the virulent, antisocial attitudes dumped on the group by two or three people on a very regular basis. My belief is that many potential beginners are probably nearing retirement age, certainly have disposable income, but are totally turned away by the vulgar abuse that appears to me to permeate the hobby, at least as it is represented in rec.crafts.glass. Since I have never before in my life found such a pocket of mean-spirited people by nature, I must assume that many of the frequent posters here are suffering from some form of lead poisoning that is causing these asocial attitudes and behavior. I mean, what do you guys do, hold all the solder in your mouths all day long, week after week or something? My thanks to the few courteous, helpful people who occasionally post here. Those few are the sole reason I still lurk here, and have not completely given up on the hobby. But I will probably never consider spending any serious money on it again - perhaps just a time-killer some rainy weekend. I also lurk over at rec.woodworking, where almost always even a clueless newbie will get helpful responses and even friendly answers to honest, even pretty stupid newbie type questions. RWW is the most helpful newsgroup I have followed. The help and advice I got there convinced me to pry open my wallet a couple months back and spend a couple of grand for a new cabinet saw. In more than a year following this group, I have not seen anything posted that begins to induce me to spend even a tenth that much, ever again, on the SG hobby. Listen up you retailers and suppliers. Y'all are killing off the golden goose with all your infighting. You'd have a lot more lurkers here, and potential customers too, if this wasn't a group dominated by a few pathetic people. Ok, flame away. I've even dropped every twit filter I've had in this group to make sure I see every argument refuting this post. I really want to hear the logic as to how ranting, raving, name-calling, insults and veiled threats brings people into the hobby. Maybe you'll convince me that common courtesy and respect are a waste of time. I doubt it, but fire away. Regards, Roy |
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Roy wrote: On 13 Oct 2006 09:45:53 -0700, wrote: Give some thought to why the lurkers chose to not post. I started lurking here about a year or so ago when both my wife and I decided we should finally take up the hobby - we'd talked about it for a couple of years. I have since developed the theory that just about every person who does much stained glass work is suffering from some sort of severe personality disorder, perhaps due to lead poisoning. Regards, Roy Roy, The only unique thing about this board is it's lack of moderator control that permits the routine anti-social (frequently psychotic) behaviour. If you check out the various other boards (that prohibit the childish sniping) you'll discover that the group here is only a misfit minority. http://www.thestorefinder.com/glass/glass_bb.html |
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wrote in message ps.com... Roy wrote: On 13 Oct 2006 09:45:53 -0700, wrote: Give some thought to why the lurkers chose to not post. I started lurking here about a year or so ago when both my wife and I decided we should finally take up the hobby - we'd talked about it for a couple of years. I have since developed the theory that just about every person who does much stained glass work is suffering from some sort of severe personality disorder, perhaps due to lead poisoning. Regards, Roy Roy, The only unique thing about this board is it's lack of moderator control that permits the routine anti-social (frequently psychotic) behaviour. If you check out the various other boards (that prohibit the childish sniping) you'll discover that the group here is only a misfit minority. http://www.thestorefinder.com/glass/glass_bb.html YOU have got to be the biggest lame brain dipsit I have ever seen. THS IS NOT A WEBSITE, NOR IS IT A "BOARD", If you want a moderator to control your misfit sales posts go to the internet and find one... This is Usenet, MORON!! |
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