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OT? HELP: NON profit org. conflict.. Guild charter limitations
A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to
the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? |
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I am neither a tax attorney or a CPA -- however I was the executive director
of a non-profit organization for several years. Nearly all of our funds were used to benefit either our staff (staff trainings and salaries) or for the parents of the children we served... or for the children themselves. We did NOT open our seminars to the general public and the children we served had to meet specific criteria to be eligible for the services we provided. It was always my understanding that "not for profit" meant that no individual or individuals gained personally (outside of salaries, etc) from the organization. From my experience -- offering a workshop to guild members (assuming the workshop furthers the goals/objectives of the organization) shouldn't be a problem. again... not a tax attorney or cpa -- but survived many CPA audits as well as audits by the local United Way and other organizations who provided us with funding. Kate in MI " mauvicem" wrote in message news:rb1nd.4713$BX4.4571@trnddc08... A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? |
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Mauvice: You need to check in with the appropriate
agency in your state. Some regulations vary state to state. They will of course be in agreement, or at least in accordance, with the IRS. Also, there are NON profit status *and* NOT FOR profit status. It is important to be certain of the status; again regulations will vary. PAT in VA/USA mauvicem wrote: A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? |
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Mauvice,
As I understand it, the "benefit" means personal gain -- that is, money. For example, a guild with 100 members nets $10,000 on the quilt show and the $10,000 is distributed to the members ($100 each). Dollars to doughnuts someone in your guild is an accountant or an attorney, or is married to someone who is one of those. Bet you can get an opinion easily. Nann in northeasternmost Illinois " mauvicem" wrote in message news:rb1nd.4713$BX4.4571@trnddc08... A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? |
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:10:47 GMT, " mauvicem"
wrote: A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? Don't worry about it. Seminars to improve the skills of the membership and/or it's employees are perfectly permissable. Since you are a quilt guild, a quilting seminar would be well in line with that. NightMist -- "It's such a gamble when you get a face" - Richard Hell |
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mauvicem wrote:
Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? I'm in the SCA. We are one of those chartered non-profit organizations with an educational purpose. We have events *every weekend* that are closed to the general public for the benefit of members. Last weekend, my local group held a schola- which is nothing but classes, and it was for members only (well, ok, some non members did come, but you had to know about it from a member and had to meet the dress code (clothing that looked pre-1600) so there were requirements to participate- the average joe coming off the street was NOT permitted). We get around it by having separate things called demonstrations where we demonstrate to the public what we do behind closed doors. Your guild can have a public Quilt Show, and it's about the same thing. It also coincidentally gathers new folks into the group. -georg |
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Howdy!
We call it "Education Day" and have one every year, usually for just the guild members. If there's a very popular speaker (Mary Ellen Hopkins), we open up the invitation list and include the general quilting public. ;-) One of our fund raising projects supports this education offering. http://qgoa.org/ Good luck! Have fun! Tell some non-members about it so they'll be interested in joining the guild. ;-D Ragmop/Sandy--in Arlington, Texas, quilting and quilting... "NightMist" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:10:47 GMT, " mauvicem" wrote: A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? Don't worry about it. Seminars to improve the skills of the membership and/or it's employees are perfectly permissable. Since you are a quilt guild, a quilting seminar would be well in line with that. NightMist -- "It's such a gamble when you get a face" - Richard Hell |
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Thanks to all of you for taking the time to respond....very helpful
" mauvicem" wrote in message news:rb1nd.4713$BX4.4571@trnddc08... A question has come up in our guild.....our president wanted to give back to the entire group for such a fine job that was done at our quilt show....so she arranged a workshop that she has offered to guild members for free....here is the question....we are an incorporated non-profit organization and so one of our members pointed out that there are IRS "admonitions"/rules about non profit organizations using group funds for the benefit of the members only....the general thought is to offer a certain set number of slots for the workshop for the general public and the balance to the membership.... Has anyone had to deal with this issue in your guild or other non profit organization? And how did you address it? |
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