Photographing your beads

This has come to my attention.....not because anyone here asked in the last
week, but because of those who contact their fellow beadmakers asking for tips.

If you don't know how to photograph your beads, learn. Google it. Research
it. Do NOT email fellow jewelry-makers or lampworkers, asking them how to do
it.

How in the world do you get the nerve to ask them to teach you how? Does
Angelina Jolie give lessons on how to be sexy to J.Lo? Hell NO. They are
COMPETITORS. Does Usher give Justin Timberlake tips on how to have a hit
record? NO! They are COMPETITORS.

How can you ask someone who's competing with you for customers to help you do
this? Don't you realize you're asking them how to make you a BIGGER THREAT to
their income?

SERIOUSLY. Are you even thinking at ALL???????? Do you go to the girlfriend
of the guy you like, and ask her, "How can I get him to be MY boyfriend? What
does he like in bed?"
~~
Sooz

I used to work for a needlework shop here in York. One day a woman called
the shop and the owner answered. This woman had the chutzpah to ask for
directions to get to a larger shop about 60 miles south of here. And then
she got ****y when Gail refused to tell her.

When I worked for Gateway Country we often got phone calls asking us where
they could buy Dell computers.

Some people are absolutely clueless.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...
This has come to my attention.....not because anyone here asked in the
last
week, but because of those who contact their fellow beadmakers asking for
tips.

If you don't know how to photograph your beads, learn. Google it.
Research
it. Do NOT email fellow jewelry-makers or lampworkers, asking them how to
do
it.

How in the world do you get the nerve to ask them to teach you how? Does
Angelina Jolie give lessons on how to be sexy to J.Lo? Hell NO. They are
COMPETITORS. Does Usher give Justin Timberlake tips on how to have a hit
record? NO! They are COMPETITORS.

How can you ask someone who's competing with you for customers to help you
do
this? Don't you realize you're asking them how to make you a BIGGER
THREAT to
their income?

SERIOUSLY. Are you even thinking at ALL???????? Do you go to the
girlfriend
of the guy you like, and ask her, "How can I get him to be MY boyfriend?
What
does he like in bed?"
~~
Sooz


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I used to work for a needlework shop here in York. One day a woman called
the shop and the owner answered. This woman had the chutzpah to ask for
directions to get to a larger shop about 60 miles south of here. And then
she got ****y when Gail refused to tell her.

When I worked for Gateway Country we often got phone calls asking us where
they could buy Dell computers.

Some people are absolutely clueless.

Another thing -- the people who know how to photograph their beads had to WORK
to learn. What makes anyone decide they can ride on their coattails? Go learn
how -- and do it yourself. Or pay these folks to teach you. Asking is just
incredibly bad manners.

Want to flame me? That's fine. I've been flamed to *death* this week already.
I can take whatever you dish out, and then some, so you might want to think
twice.
~~
Sooz

No flames here. I am a firm believer in helping people to teach themselves.
It goes back to that "give a man a fish" line.

Sounds like you've had a rough week. Does this help?
{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Sooz}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...
I used to work for a needlework shop here in York. One day a woman called
the shop and the owner answered. This woman had the chutzpah to ask for
directions to get to a larger shop about 60 miles south of here. And then
she got ****y when Gail refused to tell her.

When I worked for Gateway Country we often got phone calls asking us where
they could buy Dell computers.

Some people are absolutely clueless.

Another thing -- the people who know how to photograph their beads had to
WORK
to learn. What makes anyone decide they can ride on their coattails? Go
learn
how -- and do it yourself. Or pay these folks to teach you. Asking is
just
incredibly bad manners.

Want to flame me? That's fine. I've been flamed to *death* this week
already.
I can take whatever you dish out, and then some, so you might want to
think
twice.
~~
Sooz


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I used to get this kind of thing all the time! I remember being asked
where some competing lighting store was... and when I said I didn't
know, the woman got all angry with me! I said "But I've never been
there! Isn't it in the phone book?" and she thought I was being SNOTTY.
I also had a woman call me from "the intersection with the Red Robin"
and ask me how to get to the store from there. I tried and tried to
figure out which Red Robin she was at, but I couldn't... and she got
****y at me. I finally said "If *YOU* don't know where you are, and *I*
don't know where you are, HOW CAN I TELL YOU HOW TO GET HERE FROM
THERE?". She hung up on me.

All that aside, I rather like answering questions from other
lampworkers... though Sooz is quite right, the answers are on the Web
already if you google them.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


JoAnn Paules wrote:
I used to work for a needlework shop here in York. One day a woman called
the shop and the owner answered. This woman had the chutzpah to ask for
directions to get to a larger shop about 60 miles south of here. And then
she got ****y when Gail refused to tell her.

When I worked for Gateway Country we often got phone calls asking us where
they could buy Dell computers.

Some people are absolutely clueless.

I worked in a specialty store, so we were limited in what clothing we
carried. I never have had a problem recommending another store for
something we didn't have. Generally it just reinforced that we were
especially helpful and a good place to shop.

The rest of your post is relevant, but I'm only commenting about this one
very specific aspect.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
I used to get this kind of thing all the time! I remember being asked
where some competing lighting store was...

I had no problem referring people to another store to find what they
need, especially if they've at least asked whether we have it. I had a
problem giving them directions to a store I'd never been to, because I
didn't know *where it was*.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Christina Peterson wrote:
I worked in a specialty store, so we were limited in what clothing we
carried. I never have had a problem recommending another store for
something we didn't have. Generally it just reinforced that we were
especially helpful and a good place to shop.

The rest of your post is relevant, but I'm only commenting about this one
very specific aspect.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...

I used to get this kind of thing all the time! I remember being asked
where some competing lighting store was...

I'm sorry to disagree, but I thought this was a place anyone could come
for tips on bead making, jewelry making, selling our wares, etc?

I am annoyed with people who just come in and say "I want to make some
money so I thought making jewelry would be a good way for a quick buck.
What can I do to start selling them?" without any other introduction.
But I think asking for tips in a specific area should be ok.
Especially if, say, you point people to your website and they say "I
like your work, but I really think better photography would help. It
looks dark." That seems like an opening to say "do you have any tips on
working on that?" or "do you have any suggestions for better cameras?"


I find the photography tips of those here very useful. I always
thought that if I were going to buy a camera again I would definately
come here for advice first.

marisa2

Dr. Sooz wrote:

This has come to my attention.....not because anyone here asked in the last
week, but because of those who contact their fellow beadmakers asking for tips.

If you don't know how to photograph your beads, learn. Google it. Research
it. Do NOT email fellow jewelry-makers or lampworkers, asking them how to do
it.

How in the world do you get the nerve to ask them to teach you how? Does
Angelina Jolie give lessons on how to be sexy to J.Lo? Hell NO. They are
COMPETITORS. Does Usher give Justin Timberlake tips on how to have a hit
record? NO! They are COMPETITORS.

How can you ask someone who's competing with you for customers to help you do
this? Don't you realize you're asking them how to make you a BIGGER THREAT to
their income?

SERIOUSLY. Are you even thinking at ALL???????? Do you go to the girlfriend
of the guy you like, and ask her, "How can I get him to be MY boyfriend? What
does he like in bed?"
~~
Sooz


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I have no idea what started this, but I agree with Kathy. Asking one person
how they do something when they are competitors is rude. I don't mind
giving out information as long as I see that the other person is doing some
sort of research.

You guys know I'm looking for another camera. I did ask what everyone is
using and why they like the cameras. Then I take that information and test
out said cameras. Before asking though I had two cameras in mind that I
thought could do the trick. Do you know what I found? It's probably
overkill on the cameras I chose and I may not have to spend as much money.
Yeah!

--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com


"Marisa2" wrote in message
gy.com...
I'm sorry to disagree, but I thought this was a place anyone could come
for tips on bead making, jewelry making, selling our wares, etc?

I am annoyed with people who just come in and say "I want to make some
money so I thought making jewelry would be a good way for a quick buck.
What can I do to start selling them?" without any other introduction.
But I think asking for tips in a specific area should be ok.
Especially if, say, you point people to your website and they say "I
like your work, but I really think better photography would help. It
looks dark." That seems like an opening to say "do you have any tips on
working on that?" or "do you have any suggestions for better cameras?"


I find the photography tips of those here very useful. I always
thought that if I were going to buy a camera again I would definately
come here for advice first.

marisa2

Dr. Sooz wrote:

This has come to my attention.....not because anyone here asked in the
last
week, but because of those who contact their fellow beadmakers asking
for tips.

If you don't know how to photograph your beads, learn. Google it.
Research
it. Do NOT email fellow jewelry-makers or lampworkers, asking them how
to do
it.

How in the world do you get the nerve to ask them to teach you how?
Does
Angelina Jolie give lessons on how to be sexy to J.Lo? Hell NO. They
are
COMPETITORS. Does Usher give Justin Timberlake tips on how to have a
hit
record? NO! They are COMPETITORS.

How can you ask someone who's competing with you for customers to help
you do
this? Don't you realize you're asking them how to make you a BIGGER
THREAT to
their income?

SERIOUSLY. Are you even thinking at ALL???????? Do you go to the
girlfriend
of the guy you like, and ask her, "How can I get him to be MY boyfriend?
What
does he like in bed?"
~~
Sooz


--


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inspired by nature

For unique jewelry or apparel, or to learn about having your
own Jewelry home-party or children's party, please visit:

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And of course, asking on a forum like this one is totally different from
asking via email. In a forum, people choose whether or not to respond, and
you have a good chance of getting some varied and good information,
especially if you show that you are researching as well. In email, if you
don't respond, you appear rude. If you do, you're roped into giving some
kind of assistance. IMO, at least.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

I have no idea what started this, but I agree with Kathy. Asking one
person
how they do something when they are competitors is rude. I don't mind
giving out information as long as I see that the other person is doing
some
sort of research.

You guys know I'm looking for another camera. I did ask what everyone is
using and why they like the cameras. Then I take that information and
test
out said cameras. Before asking though I had two cameras in mind that I
thought could do the trick. Do you know what I found? It's probably
overkill on the cameras I chose and I may not have to spend as much money.
Yeah!

--
Starlia Klopman
www.klopmanstudios.com


"Marisa2" wrote in message
gy.com...
I'm sorry to disagree, but I thought this was a place anyone could come
for tips on bead making, jewelry making, selling our wares, etc?

I am annoyed with people who just come in and say "I want to make some
money so I thought making jewelry would be a good way for a quick buck.
What can I do to start selling them?" without any other introduction.
But I think asking for tips in a specific area should be ok.
Especially if, say, you point people to your website and they say "I
like your work, but I really think better photography would help. It
looks dark." That seems like an opening to say "do you have any tips on
working on that?" or "do you have any suggestions for better cameras?"


I find the photography tips of those here very useful. I always
thought that if I were going to buy a camera again I would definately
come here for advice first.

marisa2

Dr. Sooz wrote:

This has come to my attention.....not because anyone here asked in the
last
week, but because of those who contact their fellow beadmakers asking
for tips.

If you don't know how to photograph your beads, learn. Google it.
Research
it. Do NOT email fellow jewelry-makers or lampworkers, asking them
how
to do
it.

How in the world do you get the nerve to ask them to teach you how?
Does
Angelina Jolie give lessons on how to be sexy to J.Lo? Hell NO. They
are
COMPETITORS. Does Usher give Justin Timberlake tips on how to have a
hit
record? NO! They are COMPETITORS.

How can you ask someone who's competing with you for customers to help
you do
this? Don't you realize you're asking them how to make you a BIGGER
THREAT to
their income?

SERIOUSLY. Are you even thinking at ALL???????? Do you go to the
girlfriend
of the guy you like, and ask her, "How can I get him to be MY
boyfriend?
What
does he like in bed?"
~~
Sooz


--


================================================== =============

Teva Yafae Original Designs
inspired by nature

For unique jewelry or apparel, or to learn about having your
own Jewelry home-party or children's party, please visit:

http://www.tevayafae.com

================================================== =============