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Agree 99.999%. What I do like about Clayart is the archives and the lack of
attack by trolls that rooms like this can get. I sure would like to get my hands on organizing Clayart though (my OCD coming through). Donna "Bob Masta" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 12:10:37 -0700, "Jon Danniken" wrote: Thanks, dkat. The process seems to be an automated procedure; and I was also informed after entering my information that a cover letter had been sent, which I am assuming to be the typical "verification" email. I'll wait a week and see what happens, though. Clayart has recurring technical problems. I normally get the digest version and it hasn't arrived in the last few days. A lot of Clayart's problems are due to it's strange setup: The moderator is not the list owner, and has no access to the host system. That system resides in a distant location, and as far as I can determine is under the jurisdiction of someone who has little time to deal with it, and probably not much experience with listservs in general. The moderator apparently doesn't want to hassle this overworked person, and since he has never had the opportunity to maintain the system himself he doesn't know what settings to ask for, etc. For example, he puts up with tons of spam every day, which he manually filters out before passing along to the group, but which could be completely eliminated by a few simple setup changes. Likewise, all message traffic is posted to the Web archives, with your Email address still attached, so as a subscriber you should be prepared for a barrage of spam from Web-scanning name harvesters. (Other lists have fitlers that "munge" your address before posting, so humans can read it but machines can't.) But it is certainly the biggest and best group of potters. Too bad they don't all move over to this NG. No mderator needed, and practically no spam! Bob Masta dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis www.daqarta.com Home of DaqGen, the FREEWARE signal generator |
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Thanks Bob, and Dkat; I did receive my confirmation letters today. Dkat,
you mentioned archives; what is the address for these? Thanks, Jon "dkat" wrote: Agree 99.999%. What I do like about Clayart is the archives and the lack of attack by trolls that rooms like this can get. I sure would like to get my hands on organizing Clayart though (my OCD coming through). Donna "Bob Masta" wrote: "Jon Danniken" wrote: Thanks, dkat. The process seems to be an automated procedure; and I was also informed after entering my information that a cover letter had been sent, which I am assuming to be the typical "verification" email. I'll wait a week and see what happens, though. Clayart has recurring technical problems. I normally get the digest version and it hasn't arrived in the last few days. A lot of Clayart's problems are due to it's strange setup: The moderator is not the list owner, and has no access to the host system. That system resides in a distant location, and as far as I can determine is under the jurisdiction of someone who has little time to deal with it, and probably not much experience with listservs in general. The moderator apparently doesn't want to hassle this overworked person, and since he has never had the opportunity to maintain the system himself he doesn't know what settings to ask for, etc. For example, he puts up with tons of spam every day, which he manually filters out before passing along to the group, but which could be completely eliminated by a few simple setup changes. Likewise, all message traffic is posted to the Web archives, with your Email address still attached, so as a subscriber you should be prepared for a barrage of spam from Web-scanning name harvesters. (Other lists have fitlers that "munge" your address before posting, so humans can read it but machines can't.) But it is certainly the biggest and best group of potters. Too bad they don't all move over to this NG. No mderator needed, and practically no spam! |
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http://www.potters.org/categories.htm
is the easiest way to get there. If that doesn't work for you, let me know. "Jon Danniken" wrote in message ... Thanks Bob, and Dkat; I did receive my confirmation letters today. Dkat, you mentioned archives; what is the address for these? Thanks, Jon "dkat" wrote: Agree 99.999%. What I do like about Clayart is the archives and the lack of attack by trolls that rooms like this can get. I sure would like to get my hands on organizing Clayart though (my OCD coming through). Donna "Bob Masta" wrote: "Jon Danniken" wrote: Thanks, dkat. The process seems to be an automated procedure; and I was also informed after entering my information that a cover letter had been sent, which I am assuming to be the typical "verification" email. I'll wait a week and see what happens, though. Clayart has recurring technical problems. I normally get the digest version and it hasn't arrived in the last few days. A lot of Clayart's problems are due to it's strange setup: The moderator is not the list owner, and has no access to the host system. That system resides in a distant location, and as far as I can determine is under the jurisdiction of someone who has little time to deal with it, and probably not much experience with listservs in general. The moderator apparently doesn't want to hassle this overworked person, and since he has never had the opportunity to maintain the system himself he doesn't know what settings to ask for, etc. For example, he puts up with tons of spam every day, which he manually filters out before passing along to the group, but which could be completely eliminated by a few simple setup changes. Likewise, all message traffic is posted to the Web archives, with your Email address still attached, so as a subscriber you should be prepared for a barrage of spam from Web-scanning name harvesters. (Other lists have fitlers that "munge" your address before posting, so humans can read it but machines can't.) But it is certainly the biggest and best group of potters. Too bad they don't all move over to this NG. No mderator needed, and practically no spam! |
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On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:19:41 -0400, "dkat"
wrote: Agree 99.999%. What I do like about Clayart is the archives and the lack of attack by trolls that rooms like this can get. I sure would like to get my hands on organizing Clayart though (my OCD coming through). Donna Being a participant in both moderated and unmoderated groups/lists, I guess I'm not so concerned about trolls, flames, etc that moderators are supposed to be guarding against. In fact, I don't think a moderator can really guard effectively against any but the most blatant trolls, since the sneakier ones can always make their messages look half-way reasonable. Trolling seems rare on all but the most popular groups... you notice we don't seem to get any here, and rarely any spam. ;-)) Only one unmoderated group that I participate in gets much in the way of flames, and that's usually infrequent. And with an unmoderated newsgroup it's still easy enough to block a thread that you don't care for. I guess I'm glad to take responsibility for what I choose to view or not, and put up with some small inconveniences. This certainly seems better than having a moderator wasting hours each day doing something with a marginal payback (or in the case of spam, a total waste of time that could have been avoided by proper setup). Just my 2 cents worth... ;-) Bob Masta dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis www.daqarta.com Home of DaqGen, the FREEWARE signal generator |
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Ponds.rec became unreadable by cross posting and trolling (jehovah witness
news group). Of course in there we made the mistake of going OT on politics/sex/religion - the three subjects not discussed in 'polite' society for a reason apparently. "Bob Masta" wrote in message ... On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 09:19:41 -0400, "dkat" wrote: Agree 99.999%. What I do like about Clayart is the archives and the lack of attack by trolls that rooms like this can get. I sure would like to get my hands on organizing Clayart though (my OCD coming through). Donna Being a participant in both moderated and unmoderated groups/lists, I guess I'm not so concerned about trolls, flames, etc that moderators are supposed to be guarding against. In fact, I don't think a moderator can really guard effectively against any but the most blatant trolls, since the sneakier ones can always make their messages look half-way reasonable. Trolling seems rare on all but the most popular groups... you notice we don't seem to get any here, and rarely any spam. ;-)) Only one unmoderated group that I participate in gets much in the way of flames, and that's usually infrequent. And with an unmoderated newsgroup it's still easy enough to block a thread that you don't care for. I guess I'm glad to take responsibility for what I choose to view or not, and put up with some small inconveniences. This certainly seems better than having a moderator wasting hours each day doing something with a marginal payback (or in the case of spam, a total waste of time that could have been avoided by proper setup). Just my 2 cents worth... ;-) Bob Masta dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis www.daqarta.com Home of DaqGen, the FREEWARE signal generator |
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