Karen's Thoughts

In article , Rhiannon
writes:

So if that is
how little energy one has with CFS, I can see how life would be beyond
challenging--especially for someone living alone.

Yep, you get the picture. CFIDS experts generally use the illustration
"imagine having the flu every day for months".

Usually, there's a connection between overdoing one day, and having a bad day
the next day (or two or three), so I have to be careful how much I do on good
days.

A doctor confusing depression with CFS can be harmful: a depressive who
exercises comes back feeling energized; a Person With CFS who exercises will
exhaust themselves and go into worse relapse. It's not that we don't *want*
to get up and do things, but that some days we physically cannot stand up
without collapsing to the floor. The desire is there, but no matter how hard
you try, you haven't even the strength to sit up.

This household had both a depressive and a PWC; I've seen the differences
first-hand. Him, you had to boot *out* of bed and beg to do something; me, you
have to tie *down* to the bed and beg me not to do too much. With no one here
to stop me, I'll push myself till I drop. Or, "did", until Some People started
nagging by phone and e-mail and Instant Message to make sure I'm resting
instead of doing. (Yes, Mother, I'm going to go lie down on the couch now and
try to take a nap.)


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We know that now but for some reason doctors back then thought it was a
true condition. Don't forget "hysteria" and how women were always of
"weak constitution". Worse yet, the cultural mores which dictated that
women should be simpering, weak flowers--at least in the presence of
men. The pioneer women who no longer had the time and access to such
frivolities proved that women could work alongside men just fine,
thankyouverymuch. Of course I'm speaking of genteel white women since
slave women and the poor were always expected to work hard or work on
their backs. Yet more proof of how stupid racial and class bias can be.

Caryn wrote:
I always assumed "the vapors" came from being forced into way too tight corsets
which didn't allow women to breathe.

--
Brenda
"Sometimes I'd sit and gaze for days through sleepless dreams all alone
and trapped in time." Tommy Shaw

Me too! I know manufacturers have been protected for a long time on
this (and spices too) because such mixtures are "trade secrets". With
all the lawsuits and allergies floating around these days, I think
disclosure would be a wise move.

mickey wrote:
--Natural flavors (An an aside, it's a big pet peeve of mine that
manufacturers don't have to list these "flavors" separately! After all,
ricin is "natural" - and a poison!)

--
Brenda
"Sometimes I'd sit and gaze for days through sleepless dreams all alone
and trapped in time." Tommy Shaw

{{{Cowie}}} You do have it hard. Your son sounds very much like DH's
cousin. Luckily my FIL is a prof. of psychiatry so she gets excellent
care from someone who understands and doesn't blame anyone. Glad you
have finally found a good doc and hope your son's growth (assuming he is
young) doesn't cause too many dosage problems.

CowieLuv wrote:
Sadly, so many of the "old" ones are much worse! We saw many specialists,
therapists, and inpatient psych programs before finally getting proper dx and
meds for our son. The "if you were good parents/not abusive/din't hate your
child" theories for why he halucinates, cuts, self meds, etc was hell. Can't
tell you how many times a "concerned professional" has called CPS because our
unstable child thinks he has been beaten or thrown off the deck by me! Nary a
scratch on the child, but mom could really use to see a dr. for her
"exaggerated" injuries!

--
Brenda
"Sometimes I'd sit and gaze for days through sleepless dreams all alone
and trapped in time." Tommy Shaw

Emerald !
Actually i do read every label , and was rather surprised to notice
this fact
mirjam
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:27:19 GMT, "emerald"
wrote:


"Dr. Brat" wrote in message
...
Low fat cottage cheese and skim milk are loaded with sugar? Really?
Please.

Actually there is more carbohydrate (aka sugar) in low-fat than "regular"
cottage cheese. And check out the sugar content of low fat or light fruit
yogurt...I'm sure you can do the math.

emerald

"Rhiannon" wrote in message
...
Unless you get the kind of yogurt that uses artificial sweetener.

smile True. I know that's available in some places but I haven't seen it
anywhere I shop.

emerald

In article , Rhiannon
writes:

With
all the lawsuits and allergies floating around these days, I think
disclosure would be a wise move.

I'll second that. One of my childhood friends was allergic to strawberries;
while I'm sure she's got enough brains to stay away from the natural flavors in
strawberry flavored Slim-Fast, I was recently drinking some "fruit medley"
punch that didn't show a picture of strawberries on the label, but there they
were in the fine print on the back.

I'm always curious whether onions are among the "100% all-natural flavorings"
in things I buy. If my immune system is already stressed, I *will* react to a
pinch of onion powder or a drop of onion juice. Can't even have a
quick-and-easy spaghetti dinner those nights, because there are onions in even
the "plain" tomato sauce.

A friend's child was diagnosed with wheat allergy. She called me one day and
asked "did you know there's wheat in tomato soup?" Turns up in the dangedest
places you'd never expect it.


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emerald wrote:
"Dr. Brat" wrote in message
...

Low fat cottage cheese and skim milk are loaded with sugar? Really?
Please.

Actually there is more carbohydrate (aka sugar) in low-fat than "regular"
cottage cheese. And check out the sugar content of low fat or light fruit
yogurt...I'm sure you can do the math.

I can do the math, but I was not recommending low fat or light yogurt.
I recommended yogurt with no qualifications whatsoever.

And most labels list carbohydrates and sugars separately because they
are not the same thing.

Elizabeth
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The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate
and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich
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Caryn wrote:
Dianne Lewandowski wrote:


I have maintained for years that all this no-fat, low-fat stuff is
hooey.

I said nothing about no-fat, or low-fat. I said "cheese has too much
fat." I'd ask that you please read what I said and you what you infer
that I said.

I am so glad that I am not the only one having this problem. Of course, now
Elizabeth, you will be told you misunderstood her.

Perhaps, but what I should be told is that I didn't craft my own post
very well. I did, in fact, mention low fat and no fat, but in very
specific contexts. I did not mean to imply a low fat or no fat diet,
which is why I also recommended yogurt.

But my own poor writing is why I ended up cancelling the post which you
quote, Caryn.

Elizabeth

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*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~living well is the best revenge~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate
and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

"Dr. Brat" wrote in message
...

And most labels list carbohydrates and sugars separately because they
are not the same thing.

Glucose, or table sugar, is a monosaccharide, one of the simplest forms of
carbohydrate. And many others break down directly and rapidly to glucose.

emerald