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I wonder?
I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that
they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. -- Best Regards Pat on the Green |
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On 10/10/2011 7:03 AM, Pat S wrote:
I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. Well, I don't do a double fold binding, either. Never have and likely never will for the very reason you mention above. Add to that the fact that I do my binding in one pass, on the machine, stitched with decorative thread and stitches and I am totally going against the grain!!! The ladies in my quilt group asked my why I did it that way and my response to them was why do they do it the other way? Just because something has been done in a particular way doesn't mean you can't change it to do it differently. My way is quicker, easier and uses less fabric so why not :-))))). I'd say GO FOR IT and give your students the option of doing a more traditional double fold binding or a more contemporary single fold binding. CiaoMeow ^;;^ PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties) Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about their whiskers! Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary |
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On 10/10/2011 15:03, Pat S wrote:
I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. Not just on quilts, but also on things like stays and corsets I do a double fold edge because it makes it firmer and neater. Wear isn't part of the equation. For example, right now the sewing partner Su and I are finishing off a silk organza shrug for a customer. The edge is bound in bias cut double folded silk habotai. We are double folding that to give it some stability as the organza is cobweb fine and the habotai very light weight. Two layers of bias habotai give a nice light but form edge with a VERY neat finish, and the 'pokeys' from the silk organza edges don't escape and stab and irritate the customer. -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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I have always used double-fold bindings simply because that was what I
was taught! I do feel as though they give added stability to the edge of the quilt and kind of "keep it in line." What I don't like about them is mitering the corners - it's an awful lot of fabric in a small space. I keep my bindings fairly narrow, though (cut 2" wide or less), so that probably contributes to that bulky feeling. I also like double-fold bindings on children's quilts - particularly those they are going to drag around. You're right when you say that if the binding receives enough wear for the second layer to become necessary, but once I give the quilt away to a little one, I may not have the option to repair it when the first layer frays, so that second layer may be the only thing that keeps the edge of the quilt and the batting from sneaking out! Like Sandy, I'd like more info on how you do your single-fold bindings. I think they'd be great for either the quilts I will keep for us or for smaller projects. Louise in Iowa http://community.webshots.com/user/LouiseinIowa nieland1390@mchsidotcom On 10/10/2011 9:44 AM, Sandy wrote: In , Pat wrote: I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discussgg I would seriously like to hear views on this. You make a very good point, Pat! I do double-fold bindings, but I think it's because they're so easy to do, with no raw edges to fiddle with as I'm doing the handwork portion -- and I do enjoy the handwork portion. I sort of get "reacquainted" with the quilt as I put those finishing touches on it. But how do you do your single-fold bindings? |
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On large bed quilts I do a double fold binding because it is less
fussing to press the length in half, match the raw edges while machine stitching and hand stitch the crease in place. On my miniatures I do a single fold binding because it is less bulky and more in proportion with the size of the quilt. The width of the binding varies with the size of the quilt. For bed size quilts I cut the bindings at 2 1/2" and stitch at a fat quarter inch because that is an easy measurement to hold on my machine. On the miniatures the stitch width can be as little as 1/8" and the cut width is in proportion with the stitch width. I am in the process of replacing the backing on a quilt made in the 1980's at the owner's request. The backing is taken to the front rather than a separate binding being used. The fabric along the edges around the quilt has deteriorated as well as a few places on the back. The owner wants to continue to use the quilt. It is a very scrappy quilt made from a combination of cotton and polyester fabrics typical of the 1980's and tied rather than quilted. The owner said his great-grandmother made one for each of her 11 great-grandchildren. He used it all through college. Now his son has discovered its cuddly qualities and he wants his son to enjoy it. He does plan to teach his son to take better care of it than he did as a college student. Susan On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:03:07 +0100, Pat S wrote: I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. |
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Just random thoughts, Pat. I can't imagine a time when someone would gently
and lovingly replace a quilt binding because it had become scruffy-looking. I'm not saying it can't happen - just most unlikely in my own rather rough and tumble world. But - trying to think with you - would it be a good idea? You know what the Bible and Dolly Parton say about putting new patches on old garments. Polly "Susan Laity Price" wrote in message ... On large bed quilts I do a double fold binding because it is less fussing to press the length in half, match the raw edges while machine stitching and hand stitch the crease in place. On my miniatures I do a single fold binding because it is less bulky and more in proportion with the size of the quilt. The width of the binding varies with the size of the quilt. For bed size quilts I cut the bindings at 2 1/2" and stitch at a fat quarter inch because that is an easy measurement to hold on my machine. On the miniatures the stitch width can be as little as 1/8" and the cut width is in proportion with the stitch width. I am in the process of replacing the backing on a quilt made in the 1980's at the owner's request. The backing is taken to the front rather than a separate binding being used. The fabric along the edges around the quilt has deteriorated as well as a few places on the back. The owner wants to continue to use the quilt. It is a very scrappy quilt made from a combination of cotton and polyester fabrics typical of the 1980's and tied rather than quilted. The owner said his great-grandmother made one for each of her 11 great-grandchildren. He used it all through college. Now his son has discovered its cuddly qualities and he wants his son to enjoy it. He does plan to teach his son to take better care of it than he did as a college student. Susan On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:03:07 +0100, Pat S wrote: I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. |
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I do the double bias binding.
Double because it's easier and gives a firm edge; bias because it snugs up and seems to keep everything straight and even, and hangs well. But on my wholecloth quilts I stitch (by hand) half an inch from the edge and then turn in the edge and stitch again on the fold. I like this because the quilts are truly double sided. And if I have used two colours there is no 'wrong-coloured' edge on one side. Nel (Gadget Queen) |
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One of the guild gals passed away 10 or so years ago and the stack of her
unfinished tops became sort of a project for some of us to finish for her family. I somehow got a finished quilt that had the edge caught up in the wheel of the bed and sort of got chewed up. Someone found enough of the same fabric in the stash and I took it apart and did the repair. I guess that is one time a binding might need redone. It made the quilt and me happy. I use a double fold binding mostly because it just seems easier and quicker than a single one. That is excepting scallop type edges. Taria "Polly Esther" wrote in message ... Just random thoughts, Pat. I can't imagine a time when someone would gently and lovingly replace a quilt binding because it had become scruffy-looking. I'm not saying it can't happen - just most unlikely in my own rather rough and tumble world. But - trying to think with you - would it be a good idea? You know what the Bible and Dolly Parton say about putting new patches on old garments. Polly "Susan Laity Price" wrote in message ... On large bed quilts I do a double fold binding because it is less fussing to press the length in half, match the raw edges while machine stitching and hand stitch the crease in place. On my miniatures I do a single fold binding because it is less bulky and more in proportion with the size of the quilt. The width of the binding varies with the size of the quilt. For bed size quilts I cut the bindings at 2 1/2" and stitch at a fat quarter inch because that is an easy measurement to hold on my machine. On the miniatures the stitch width can be as little as 1/8" and the cut width is in proportion with the stitch width. I am in the process of replacing the backing on a quilt made in the 1980's at the owner's request. The backing is taken to the front rather than a separate binding being used. The fabric along the edges around the quilt has deteriorated as well as a few places on the back. The owner wants to continue to use the quilt. It is a very scrappy quilt made from a combination of cotton and polyester fabrics typical of the 1980's and tied rather than quilted. The owner said his great-grandmother made one for each of her 11 great-grandchildren. He used it all through college. Now his son has discovered its cuddly qualities and he wants his son to enjoy it. He does plan to teach his son to take better care of it than he did as a college student. Susan On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:03:07 +0100, Pat S wrote: I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. |
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On 10/10/2011 21:25, Polly Esther wrote:
Just random thoughts, Pat. I can't imagine a time when someone would gently and lovingly replace a quilt binding because it had become scruffy-looking. I'm not saying it can't happen - just most unlikely in my own rather rough and tumble world. But - trying to think with you - would it be a good idea? You know what the Bible and Dolly Parton say about putting new patches on old garments. Polly My mum made all of us scrap quilts from... .fake fur scraps! Mine is the most colouful but also the smallest because I didn't have my own bed at that point. It has been very well loved, and all the cats love it too! But the binding is in a state. It was teh 70s. My mum used some horrid doubleknit fabric for the binding and it's in shreds. The same nylon, slippery stuff was used on the back so it shimmies off the bed unless weighted down with a cat or two. I am going to replace the backing and binding with something cotton. So you see, bindings do need to be replaced now and then! -- Jo in Scotland |
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Without reading the other replies, I like it because there's no
fiddling with a loose edge when it comes to sewing the 2nd bit down. The binding remains perfectly even with both raw edges secured in the 1st seam. I also think the extra layer of fabric provides a smoother finish, especially on quilts where there are lots of seams going all the way out to the edge. I like to trim the backing/batting an extra quarter inch beyond the edge of the top to make a nice plump bound edge, and the double layer just makes it all smoother. Roberta in D On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:03:07 +0100, Pat S wrote: I have never before questioned those respected quilters who say that they always do a double fold binding, because the edge always gets more wear. Well, I am giving a workshop next Saturday, on Borders and Bindings, and I was just typing out my notes for it. I was giving detailed instructions for one single-fold and one double fold binding. I never do double fold bindings. I was typing 'double-fold bindings are often used because the edge receives most wear, but there are two layers' when I thought: if a double-fold binding receives wear for the second layer to become necessary, then it will definitely look scruffy and worn. In which case I would want to take off the binding and replace it - as one would do with a single-fold binding. So, what is the point (for me, as I find them bulky and awkward) in using double fold? Discuss gg I would seriously like to hear views on this. |
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