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LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.
Julia in MN wrote:
When my kids were about 6-18 months old (30+ years ago), I used a back pack carrier while shopping with them. They were generally pretty content because they could see what was going on around them and they were close to Mom. They got lots of attention because not too many people used the back carriers. The kids even fell asleep on my back once in a while. Julia in MN Yep! I used one of those with my DS and it was a life-saver. Sadly, DD wouldn't have it at any price, but she has always been a most compliant child and walked quietly beside me from a very young age. I never used leading reins but only because they weren't available when I wanted them. I think the safety aspect far outweighs any politically correct notion of 'dog leads'. I did a *lot* of bushwalking when DS was small and (remember, I'm in Australia where the spiders and snakes will kill you) unashamedly used to tether him to a tree during rest stops. Being autistic, DS never much liked to be held or in physical contact for long, but he was quite happy to puddle about a tree while I had two hands free to eat my lunch and feed him. But then (go figger), he was happy enough to be carried along on my back for as long as I could go. LOL! DS and I are extremely close these days and sometimes I think it was that backpack that did it for us! ;-D -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Taria wrote:
I can remember having one babe in a front carrier and the other in the stroller. They are 19 months apart. A trip to the big downtown library was a big outing for me and a great place for kids to learn about inside voices. They are both to this day big readers. That's a nice memory Julia. Thanks for reminding me. There was a baby in a back carrier at Costco last time I was there. I had a nice chat with her mama and she was happy as could be. (I admit my back hurt watching though cause she was kind of big!) Taria Hee! Thing is, you start with a little baby, just old enough to hold his/her head up. That's not real heavy. As the baby grows, your muscles increase and gain stamina to accommodate the weight. Once, I went bushwalking at a place called Jerusalem Creek (not significant, but it was a lovely walk and brings back fond memories...) We (the Hunter Bird Observers' Group) were being escorted by two hunormous (and rather hunky) forest rangers. I was only twenty at the time and DS was nearly one. He was Somewhat Stout back then and I had been carrying him for the entire morning, up and down tracks and through some pretty hairy bush. We stopped for lunch in a clearing (didn't need to tether DS then: he wasn't walking) and had a pleasant lunch. Afterward, I set about hoicking DS up onto my back and one of the rangers (the bigger one) offered to carry him for me. I didn't need that, but the ranger seemed quite keen to help me so I said OK. He lasted twenty minutes. The other ranger had a go and lasted only fifteen! They were both really embarrassed and didn't want to hear when I tried to explain about the muscles developing to cope with the weight. But it's true! If you want to use a backpack, you need to use it every day and slowly get used to it. -- Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia |
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Thing is, Ash is so not a toddler. He will be 7 in a couple of weeks.
My thinking runs along the lines of anyone who hears him will know that he is a special needs kid, but both my co-parents are absolutely paranoid about getting trouble for it. NightMist about ready to throw a tantrum at them herself On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:44:18 +0200, "Roberta Zollner" wrote: I had one for my DDs, who have consequently survived toddlerhood. I was paying for something in a store once, and a mom walked by with her toddler rigged up in the safety leash. The store clerk (not more than 20 or so) turned to me and commented on evil mothers who treated their sweet little babies like dogs. Obviously hadn't been much around small children! Roberta in D "Polly Esther" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ink.net... You can. Mothers only have two hands and that is not enough to keep a little one (or more) safe when shopping. We had a leash - it looked very much like suspenders with a serious leash thing fixed to the back waist. That way, I could be somewhat sure that he wouldn't dart into the path of an oncoming car or stray from my side. That was more than 50 years ago but I don't remember a single soul being anything but wanting to know where a similar harness could be purchased. If anyone had accused me of cruel or inhuman treatment, we would have bonked them with a spoon. Polly "NightMist" wrote, in part So far no public tantrums (touch wood), though I have wished we could just chain him to one of our waists or something while we are out. -- The wolf that understands fire has much to eat. |
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Dannielle wrote:
I'm gonna have my new little one in a front pouch carrier and the older one in the stroller, or the little one in the stroller and the bigger one with a tether. Although the bigger one is pretty good about staying right with me... That's what I did with Rocky. He went in the Baby Bjorn while Pillbug was in the stroller. However, that did not last long. Rocky was 25 lbs. at 5 months; my back started hurting too much to carry him! -- Anita -- |
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NightMist wrote:
Thing is, Ash is so not a toddler. He will be 7 in a couple of weeks. My thinking runs along the lines of anyone who hears him will know that he is a special needs kid, but both my co-parents are absolutely paranoid about getting trouble for it. Have a word with his social worker or medical team and see what they think. And see what the law is like on this issue in your state. 90% of the time James was on the lead he also held hands with me or his dad. The lead wasn't necessary most of the time, but when it was, we were ALL very glad of it! -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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this sounds *so* familiar - we actually had to have a residents meeting with
the police, social workers etc. and the family needed to be warned that if they didn't control their kids *now* they would be evicted it helped for the most part - now he doesn't terrorize the whole neighbourhood just one poor unfortunate family - we are trying to get that fixed before the summer holiday starts :-( -- Jessamy In The Netherlands Take out: so much quilting to reply. Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow www.geocities.com/jess_ayad http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I live on a large block with lots of yard space and the neighbours on either side asked if their kids could continue to play in the front part of the yard as they had when the block was empty. I said sure - as long as they understand the rules. Stay off the garden, don't run around the house area (a bit dangerous), no throwing stones, don't tease the cats. Everything was fine but then new neighbours arrived on one side. When the kids bring me my mail (to save me hobbling down to the mail box) they get a candy - if it is not right before a meal time and their mums say it is OK. New kid comes to the door and asks for candy, drops wrappers on the ground and throws stones. I corrected him very politely in front of the others and he ran home to tell his "dad" (actually "partner" of mum of course) and "dad" came racing over and practically put his fist through my glass door, shouting "Don't pick on my kid". Sadly I haven't seen any of the kids for over a week now so I imagine that the obnoxious neighbours have told the nice neighbours some dreadful tale about me abusing children. I will drop in and see T and straighten out any misunderstanding, but I feel sorry for the child of the other parents. What chance do they have with such an example? He now believes that he can do whatever he wants and that no-one will stop him because his "dad" will threaten them if they do. ((sigh)) -- Cheryl & the Cats _ _ _ _ _ _ ( Y ) ( Y ) ( Y ) ~ ~ ~ Enness Boofhead Donut Now in hibernation with a wake-up call for Spring! http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau |
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part of parenting include *ignoring* unwanted behaviour - and that includes
a temper tantrum in a super market I just tell my 2 year old child that if he wants to cry ok but I am going on without him - as he only does this to try to get his way there is little point in him continuing when I am not there. He only did this twice as I refuse to give in to a screaming child and give him what ever he is screaming for (usually sweets). good behaviour is complimented and the kids then get to play on the supermarket kids computer while I pay at the checkout -- Jessamy In The Netherlands Take out: so much quilting to reply. Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow www.geocities.com/jess_ayad http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I try very hard to be sympathetic. Some exploration is expected. Some enthusiasm is fine. I can understand a temper-tantrum too. But I expect mom to be paying attention to the child at that point. It's not going to go on for very long with mom right there and doing something about it... compared to the tantrum all the way across the store, or the child grabbing *my* things. Curiosity about what I am doing is fine, and I usually respond positively. But that's different than grabbing my shopping selections or what I am reaching for. It's hard to say where the line is between what I will give a dirty look for or actually dare to interfere (which is much further along). Parenting is a very hard job to do. I do try to compliment good parents and good kids. -georg |
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Jessamy wrote:
part of parenting include *ignoring* unwanted behaviour - and that includes a temper tantrum in a super market Hehehehe... I've done that one! I just tell my 2 year old child that if he wants to cry ok but I am going on without him - as he only does this to try to get his way there is little point in him continuing when I am not there. He only did this twice as I refuse to give in to a screaming child and give him what ever he is screaming for (usually sweets). Yup - sometimes takes resolution, but I have dragged a boiled goblin up Faversham Highstreet when my cherub had a blue fit at leaving the pub. Didn't want to leave, so threw a scarlet faced LOUD screaming tantrum. All my friend and I did as he struggled up the high street screaming I-DON'T-WANNA-LEAVE-THE-PUUUUUUUB!!! at the top of his voice was giggle and walk quicker. He was soon too breathless to scream, and thus stopped. Every time he threatened to start again, we'd step up the pace... We didn't need to say a thing to him, and when we went in a shop, and the shopkeeper said he looked cross, we just told her: he's having a tantrum about nothing. I'll take him out and run him up the street again if he starts screaming. She giggled and said she wished more folk would do that. good behaviour is complimented and the kids then get to play on the supermarket kids computer while I pay at the checkout Good behaviour gets the treat they wouldn't have got for screaming for it. James would ask Please can I have... or Please can we go/do... and my reply was always If you are good! If he wasn't, he'd get told: this is naughty, so no such&such. It's all about rewarding the behaviour you want and ignoring what you don't. Persistent poor behaviour after warnings will be punished. James once lost all the books and toys in his room for a week after one glorious tantrum, and spent many a bored hour in there with nothing to do. I never needed to do it again - the threat is still enough, many years later! -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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Yup - sometimes takes resolution, but I have dragged a boiled goblin up
Faversham Highstreet when my cherub had a blue fit at leaving the pub. Didn't want to leave, so threw a scarlet faced LOUD screaming tantrum. All my friend and I did as he struggled up the high street screaming I-DON'T-WANNA-LEAVE-THE-PUUUUUUUB!!! at the top of his voice was giggle and walk quicker. He was soon too breathless to scream, and thus stopped. Every time he threatened to start again, we'd step up the pace... ** ohhh *evil* i love it!! hehehe i wil file this oen for furute reference - i'm bound to need it someday ;-) i did once walk around the super market with my youngest nephew under my arm - feet forwards and head backwards when the threw a hissy fit and kept him there till he agreed to behave , but sadly my kids think that that is *fun* so i can't use that We didn't need to say a thing to him, and when we went in a shop, and the shopkeeper said he looked cross, we just told her: he's having a tantrum about nothing. I'll take him out and run him up the street again if he starts screaming. She giggled and said she wished more folk would do that. Good behaviour gets the treat they wouldn't have got for screaming for it. James would ask Please can I have... or Please can we go/do... and my reply was always If you are good! If he wasn't, he'd get told: this is naughty, so no such&such. It's all about rewarding the behaviour you want and ignoring what you don't. Persistent poor behaviour after warnings will be punished. James once lost all the books and toys in his room for a week after one glorious tantrum, and spent many a bored hour in there with nothing to do. I never needed to do it again - the threat is still enough, many years later! **the kids are at this very moment recoveing from being bunged in bed for misbehaving (3 strikes = out as it were) - i suspect they will remeber this for a while lol -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! -- Jessamy In The Netherlands Take out: so much quilting to reply. Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow www.geocities.com/jess_ayad http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Jessamy wrote:
**the kids are at this very moment recoveing from being bunged in bed for misbehaving (3 strikes = out as it were) - i suspect they will remeber this for a while lol I never put him to bed as a punishment: bed was always a warm, snuggly retreat at the end of the day. I did barricade him into his room on several occasions. Half an hour later everything would go quiet... Ten minutes after that I'd go in and find him in a heap on the bed with all his bears, sound asleep. An hour later he'd be up and sunny as usual. This happened about once every month or so. Like I say, I was spoiled - he very rarely turned from cherub to boiled goblin, and when he did, it was nasty but short lived. When he was really small they usually happened if he was hungry, needed changing, or was tired: perm any two or add all three for fun! After the age of two, frustration and boredom would occasionally spark one, and the trick there is to keep the little bugger occupied with something safe. Shopping is horrifically boring for small kids, but occasionally one cannot escape taking them, and I used to give James things to find for me and his own basket. Occasional 'treats' would sneak in (like a pack of mini Jaffa cakes!), but they usually got put back or we negotiated on them. The screaming brat in supermarket scenario was one of the prime movers in Alan taking over the grocery shopping... Well that and the fact that it reduces ME to screaming fits! We'd starve if he didn't do it! These days James fights to push the trolley round. Oddly, he likes doing that. Still, if one has a strapping 11 YO with decent muscles, one might as well make use of him! James's fits of boiled goblinitus were sufficiently rare that I remember such episodes as Faversham High Street, the Embarrassing Bread Shop Trip in Richmond, and why we had to buy him a coat in Zurich! -- Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons http://www.katedicey.co.uk Click on Kate's Pages and explore! |
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