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Old August 22nd 03, 06:23 PM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to
attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say
some words against Terrorism .... nast Dirty terorism that kills
babies and maimes children on Purpose , because the suocider situated
himself in a group of young kids , on Purpose ,,,, an Imam a man
supposed to worship God ,,,, blew up kids ....
and where sare you all the people who denounce priests and flame
people for the smallest words , or attack me when we defend
outrselves... now where are you all the people who claim they are not
Anti Semite , why are you silent when Jewish kids are slaughtered,,
and don`t tell me we do it as well , because you have no clue what you
are talking about . Mourn the UN killed and wounded people who went to
bring peace in Iraq and lost their life to crazed terrorism , that
knows only one language Death Death and more death ,,, where are your
remarks ,, now ??
mirjam

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Old August 22nd 03, 06:33 PM
Lucille
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As an addition to Mirjam's very emotional note, I thought some of you might
be interested in reading the following very sad newsletter. This information
comes directly from the Hadassah Medical Organization Hospital in Jerusalem,
Israel.

THE HUNDRED-AND-FIRST PALESTINIAN SUICIDE BOMBING

It was the 101st Palestinian suicide bombing in the 35 months of violence in
Israel, and the too-well-practiced emergency teams were immediately in
action. But there was a different feeling about this latest atrocity, at
least in the Hadassah Medical Center, which took in more than half of the
100-plus injured.

For the first time, pediatricians and pediatric surgeons dominated the
Emergency and Trauma Units, with casualty after incoming casualty turning
out to be children, toddlers, infants. Stoic veterans of the aftermath of
terror, Hadassah doctors, nurses and social workers alike were stricken by
the youth of their patients. The frantic relatives, who always converge on
the hospital after an attack desperate for information about the missing,
were absent, the bomber having blasted entire families with his lethal
payload of explosives, bolts and nails.

New questions faced medical teams who have unhappily seen it all these past
three years. A nurse rushed a baby weighing-scales down the corridor, so
doctors could gauge the ages of unidentified infants. What about the
hepatitis B vaccination routinely administered to bleeding victims: should
it be given to infants, as well? And, as time went on, were the children the
doctors were fighting to save destined to live as orphans?

A two-and-a-half-year-old girl admitted at 9.39 p.m. lay unclaimed hour
after hour, unconscious and unclaimed. The heads of seven doctors and nurses
clustered round a baby boy, probably a month old, turned every time anyone
walked past, hoping someone had come to claim and comfort him.

Neighbors from the close-knit Har Nof community, where most of the victims
lived, trickled into the hospital. They had doubtless attended the little
boy's brit mila, they said, but none of them could identify him, he was too
young. As he was taken off to CT, his bloodied clothes were collected into a
bag. The neighbors would take the tragic bag to bus victims in Jerusalem's
other three hospitals. Perhaps someone there would know who he was.

CT scanning showed the baby's pelvis had been fractured, his ear drum
pierced and his chest and abdomen blast-injured - and that he had been born
with a single kidney.

And then news reached the Ein Kerem team of a couple and three children
hospitalized elsewhere in Jerusalem. They had been on the bus, returning
home from the Western Wall, with their five youngsters. The mother had been
nursing her month-old baby boy when the explosion blasted him out of her
arms. She was certain he was dead. And, oh yes, the child had been born with
only one kidney.

At 1.45 a.m., the unclaimed baby at Ein Kerem was identified as Elhanan
Niria Cohen. The unconscious two-and-a-half-year-old girl was his sister
Shira. Doctors who had long since stabilized the bus victims but had been
unwilling to leave the hospital until the baby had a name, packed up and
went home. And the neighbors were excused the task of showing bloodied
children's clothing to shocked and injured parents.

Fourteen hours after the blast, the baby and his mother, Ora, are doing
well. His father and siblings remain critical.

Thirty-three victims of last night's bomber were taken to Hadassah's Mount
Scopus hospital, and 30 to Ein Kerem. As well as a larger proportion than
ever before of young victims, there were also five who were unidentified for
many hours. Midwives Nava Braverman and Michal Liebergall of the Family
Information Center set up following terror attacks, worked through the night
to provide names for the injured. In addition to the two Cohen children,
three other victims lay unclaimed for several hours.
With one, a little girl of eight, heart-shaped earrings with a blue stone in
the center of each unlocked her identity. With a second, a middle-aged
woman, orthopedic surgeon Prof. Meir Liebergall thought he recognized his
own work in a healed fracture of her knee. Two different families were
searching for a woman in middle years, but the X-rays of her earlier surgery
clinched her identity

"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
...
I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to
attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say
some words against Terrorism .... nast Dirty terorism that kills
babies and maimes children on Purpose , because the suocider situated
himself in a group of young kids , on Purpose ,,,, an Imam a man
supposed to worship God ,,,, blew up kids ....
and where sare you all the people who denounce priests and flame
people for the smallest words , or attack me when we defend
outrselves... now where are you all the people who claim they are not
Anti Semite , why are you silent when Jewish kids are slaughtered,,
and don`t tell me we do it as well , because you have no clue what you
are talking about . Mourn the UN killed and wounded people who went to
bring peace in Iraq and lost their life to crazed terrorism , that
knows only one language Death Death and more death ,,, where are your
remarks ,, now ??
mirjam



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Old August 22nd 03, 06:56 PM
Tamira
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thank you Lucille, I did not see that piece....it ears my heart out to think of
these poor young victims of man's inhumanity to his neighbor
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Old August 23rd 03, 07:52 AM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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thank you Tamira for your kind words ,
mirjam
wrote:

thank you Lucille, I did not see that piece....it ears my heart out to think of
these poor young victims of man's inhumanity to his neighbor


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Old August 22nd 03, 07:51 PM
georg
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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:
I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to
attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say
some words against Terrorism ....


Because I don't discuss or mourn the senseless waste of human (and
other) life here, doesn't mean that I do not care about such things. I
simply do not feel that mourning, kvetching, or pointing fingers has a
place on this newsgroup.

I go elsewhere for that.

Still working with a lovely hand-dyed varigated cotton floss in two
shades on lavendar Fossil Fern cotton for a wall hanging for someone.
It's coming along rather lovely, I think, despite a lack of attention to
it. I'll probably add a sprinkling of clear crystal beads for reflecting
rays of hope to it. And it should be finished at the NY meetup tomorrow.
=) I'm also going to try to find a metalic piece or two that I've done
and bring to show off.

-georg

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Old August 23rd 03, 03:27 PM
Dawne Peterson
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"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote .
I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to

attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say
some words against Terrorism (snip) .. now where are you all the people
who claim they are not Anti Semite , (snip) where are your remarks ,,
now ??

My thought on these things are where they always are---not on this
newgroup, but in my prayers (which, since I am one of the writers for my
congregation, are often also public prayers). I pray, because that has
meaning for me. Some people post, some people think about things inwardly,
some go and read the news and learn more. We do not all do things the same
way.
Dawne



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Old August 23rd 03, 11:03 PM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Well Dawne so you say a prayer and i do not think lightly of it ,
but will a prayer stop all this ?
i thank you for the prayers , but my experience of several generations
told me prayers are not enough , we have to condemm the deeds , and
sometimes smack back, Every day as a young guard checks my bag in the
door of every mall , as another guard walks in a bus and checks it for
me i thank them with all my heart and wish them a 'Boring day" .
And the sad thing Dawne ! is that this murderes are carried in the
name of a religion ,,, that is so horrid , so anti any idea we all
want to have about a religion , The last terrorist was a religious
teacher .....and it is so sad.
mirjam
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Old August 24th 03, 12:13 AM
Dawne Peterson
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"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote .
Well Dawne so you say a prayer and i do not think lightly of it , but

will a prayer stop all this ?
Maybe it will. Maybe someday the hearts and minds of people everywhere
will be turned from hatred to love. Maybe if enough people say enough
killing, it can stop. Ireland seemed finally, after many bloodsoaked
years, to reach that point, despite long history and religious difference,
but the path to that point was tortuous.
i thank you for the prayers , but my experience of several generations

told me prayers are not enough ,
Neither, with respect, is posting to a newsgroup. If one wants to write,
perhaps one should write to one's political leaders--but then again,
someone could answer me that people have done that for years too. How many
peace vigils, how many candlelight marches, how many letters to the editor
will change the world.......just like how many prayers. But any of these
is better than bullets. Do we stop then because one so rarely sees results
from them??
sometimes smack back,

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind, as Gandhi said. Canadians, to a
fair extent, do not get involved, as a country , in "smacking back", but
have always been willing to stand between the combattants. Two of the fine
people killed in the bombing in Bagdad were Canadians, one working with
UNICEF, one with the Christian Children's Fund. But each nation must
determine how it will stand against evil in the world, and what Canada does
is what it does, and what Israel does is what its people feel it must do.
Every day as a young guard checks my bag in the
door of every mall , as another guard walks in a bus and checks it for

me i thank them with all my heart and wish them a 'Boring day" .
I would join you in those wishes. All security guards, all peacekeeping
battallions, all bomb squads, may they have many long and boring days.

And the sad thing Dawne ! is that this murderes are carried in the name

of a religion ,,, that is so horrid , so anti any idea we all want to
have about a religion , The last terrorist was a religious teacher
......and it is so sad.

Sad indeed. And there is no religion on earth that hasn't been tarnished
by some fool or another doing evil in its name. Which makes it incumbent
on the rest of us to do good.
Dawne


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Old August 24th 03, 12:29 AM
toni ferrick
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I have 2 questions--I know they are dumb but I just have to ask?

1. Why are there more jews in NYC than in Israel?
2. Why can't we just leave them alone and let Israel defend themselves how
they see fit? They did fine the last time.
"Dawne Peterson" wrote in message
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"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote .
Well Dawne so you say a prayer and i do not think lightly of it , but

will a prayer stop all this ?
Maybe it will. Maybe someday the hearts and minds of people everywhere
will be turned from hatred to love. Maybe if enough people say enough
killing, it can stop. Ireland seemed finally, after many bloodsoaked
years, to reach that point, despite long history and religious difference,
but the path to that point was tortuous.
i thank you for the prayers , but my experience of several generations

told me prayers are not enough ,
Neither, with respect, is posting to a newsgroup. If one wants to write,
perhaps one should write to one's political leaders--but then again,
someone could answer me that people have done that for years too. How

many
peace vigils, how many candlelight marches, how many letters to the editor
will change the world.......just like how many prayers. But any of these
is better than bullets. Do we stop then because one so rarely sees

results
from them??
sometimes smack back,

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind, as Gandhi said. Canadians, to a
fair extent, do not get involved, as a country , in "smacking back", but
have always been willing to stand between the combattants. Two of the

fine
people killed in the bombing in Bagdad were Canadians, one working with
UNICEF, one with the Christian Children's Fund. But each nation must
determine how it will stand against evil in the world, and what Canada

does
is what it does, and what Israel does is what its people feel it must do.
Every day as a young guard checks my bag in the
door of every mall , as another guard walks in a bus and checks it for

me i thank them with all my heart and wish them a 'Boring day" .
I would join you in those wishes. All security guards, all peacekeeping
battallions, all bomb squads, may they have many long and boring days.

And the sad thing Dawne ! is that this murderes are carried in the

name
of a religion ,,, that is so horrid , so anti any idea we all want to
have about a religion , The last terrorist was a religious teacher
.....and it is so sad.

Sad indeed. And there is no religion on earth that hasn't been tarnished
by some fool or another doing evil in its name. Which makes it incumbent
on the rest of us to do good.
Dawne




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Old August 24th 03, 01:11 AM
Dawne Peterson
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"toni ferrick" wrote .
I have 2 questions--I know they are dumb but I just have to ask?

1. Why are there more jews in NYC than in Israel?


According to a quick Google search, the population of Israel is 6.5
million. The Jewish population of the United States is 5.5 million. The
Jewish population of New York City is, for the first time in many years,
less than one million.
Dawne


 




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