OT SS going to the source

Well I must say I like my doctor's method better - I'm glad she checks our
system before refilling our prescriptions - our bodies keep changing. My
Mother for instance will be on 2 mg of warfarin for 2 weeks, then they do
blood work and put her on 4 mg, check blood again, put her on 1 1/2. To me
refilling a prescription for a whole year is a little non-caring. Just my
opinion.

Sharon (N.B.)

I've been taking thyroid medication for about 45 years. As a small child,
I remember blood being taken three or four times a year. Once I passed
puberty, it was pretty much down to once a year since the tests remained
constant. My doctor now does the blood tests once a year, but IT IS MY
RESPONISBILITY to be aware of my body and let the doctor know if
"something" is different enough to warrant another test mid-year. I HAVE
to be seen once a year in order to refill things like Flonase and DH gets
tested annually to refill his gout medication, but four times a year for his
diabetic/kidney disease prescriptions. Depending on what the medication is,
who is taking it and how long they have been taking it, it is not
necessarily true that it is "non-caring" to refill certain prescriptions for
a year at a time. In some cases it would be an unnecessary expenditure of
time and money for both the Dr. and the patient.
Liz from Humbug

Warfarin? Um...that's rat poison, is it not? Something scary there
when our so called medical professionals start prescribing rat poison
for human consumption!

Maureen In Vancouver B.C.

Liz Hampton wrote:

Well I must say I like my doctor's method better - I'm glad she checks our
system before refilling our prescriptions - our bodies keep changing. My
Mother for instance will be on 2 mg of warfarin for 2 weeks, then they do
blood work and put her on 4 mg, check blood again, put her on 1 1/2. To me
refilling a prescription for a whole year is a little non-caring. Just my
opinion.

Sharon (N.B.)


I've been taking thyroid medication for about 45 years. As a small child,
I remember blood being taken three or four times a year. Once I passed
puberty, it was pretty much down to once a year since the tests remained
constant. My doctor now does the blood tests once a year, but IT IS MY
RESPONISBILITY to be aware of my body and let the doctor know if
"something" is different enough to warrant another test mid-year. I HAVE
to be seen once a year in order to refill things like Flonase and DH gets
tested annually to refill his gout medication, but four times a year for his
diabetic/kidney disease prescriptions. Depending on what the medication is,
who is taking it and how long they have been taking it, it is not
necessarily true that it is "non-caring" to refill certain prescriptions for
a year at a time. In some cases it would be an unnecessary expenditure of
time and money for both the Dr. and the patient.
Liz from Humbug

Yes, it can be used as rat poison. It is also a common blood thinner
and has been used for a long time. It requires careful monitoring.

Maureen Miller wrote:
Warfarin? Um...that's rat poison, is it not? Something scary there
when our so called medical professionals start prescribing rat poison
for human consumption!

--
Brenda

Of course it's OUR responsibility to monitor ourselves - as best we can - in
order to have good health - that is only common sense. But having a good
doctor to check on things we might not be aware of is wonderful. My husband
was also on thyroid medication for years and years - he now takes none. It
isn't necessary anymore - only discovered this by having regular check-ups
and a doctor who didn't just shuffle him in and out of the office. I'm
thankful for our 'caring' doctor.

Sharon (N.B.)
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"Liz Hampton" wrote in message
...


Well I must say I like my doctor's method better - I'm glad she checks
our
system before refilling our prescriptions - our bodies keep changing.
My
Mother for instance will be on 2 mg of warfarin for 2 weeks, then they
do
blood work and put her on 4 mg, check blood again, put her on 1 1/2. To
me
refilling a prescription for a whole year is a little non-caring. Just
my
opinion.

Sharon (N.B.)

I've been taking thyroid medication for about 45 years. As a small
child,
I remember blood being taken three or four times a year. Once I passed
puberty, it was pretty much down to once a year since the tests remained
constant. My doctor now does the blood tests once a year, but IT IS MY
RESPONISBILITY to be aware of my body and let the doctor know if
"something" is different enough to warrant another test mid-year. I HAVE
to be seen once a year in order to refill things like Flonase and DH gets
tested annually to refill his gout medication, but four times a year for
his
diabetic/kidney disease prescriptions. Depending on what the medication
is,
who is taking it and how long they have been taking it, it is not
necessarily true that it is "non-caring" to refill certain prescriptions
for
a year at a time. In some cases it would be an unnecessary expenditure of
time and money for both the Dr. and the patient.
Liz from Humbug

Yup I think it is actually. Here's some more info if you're interested:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/1/prwebxml196537.php

Sharon (N.B.)
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"Maureen Miller" wrote in message
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Warfarin? Um...that's rat poison, is it not? Something scary there
when our so called medical professionals start prescribing rat poison
for human consumption!

Maureen In Vancouver B.C.

Liz Hampton wrote:

Well I must say I like my doctor's method better - I'm glad she checks
our
system before refilling our prescriptions - our bodies keep changing.
My
Mother for instance will be on 2 mg of warfarin for 2 weeks, then they
do
blood work and put her on 4 mg, check blood again, put her on 1 1/2. To
me
refilling a prescription for a whole year is a little non-caring. Just
my
opinion.

Sharon (N.B.)


I've been taking thyroid medication for about 45 years. As a small
child,
I remember blood being taken three or four times a year. Once I passed
puberty, it was pretty much down to once a year since the tests
remained
constant. My doctor now does the blood tests once a year, but IT IS MY
RESPONISBILITY to be aware of my body and let the doctor know if
"something" is different enough to warrant another test mid-year. I
HAVE
to be seen once a year in order to refill things like Flonase and DH
gets
tested annually to refill his gout medication, but four times a year for
his
diabetic/kidney disease prescriptions. Depending on what the medication
is,
who is taking it and how long they have been taking it, it is not
necessarily true that it is "non-caring" to refill certain prescriptions
for
a year at a time. In some cases it would be an unnecessary expenditure
of
time and money for both the Dr. and the patient.
Liz from Humbug

Yes i know she wtote fiction , but it was a tottaly ideological
fiction , Enlisted to represent her point of view .
Fiction can be used , and is used many times to spread propaganda ,,,
I can name other ficious works that have been used to spread hatred
and other ideas , The same that As other works ,,"Uncle Tom`s
Cabin"for example was a fiction that was written to speak Against
slavery ,,
mirjam

She was a fiction writer, in case you didn't know. So, based on what you write
about her fiction, Anne Rice is a vampire supporter.


On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 05:42:54 GMT, (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen)
opined:

This has nothing to do with Israel or being Jewish , if you read her
books carefully you can see the TYPE of persons she puts on the high
pedestal , and all their theory,, as depicted in her books is highly
National Socialistic , it is hidden under a Seemingly Capitlistic
outlay ,,,


Everyone is a Nazi supporter who doesn't believe in the plight of the Jews and
Israel. Don't you see this common thread in every post?
Since Unlike your claim i rarely use this Term , you may consider that
it doesn`t come just out of the blue ....
Ayn Rand escaped
communist Soviets to be in the US. She left behind her entire family and loves
so she could have free speech and write plays, screenplays and books.
None of the above does Automaticly make her a a freedomlover , a non
nazi supporter etc,,,
In 1926 when she left Russia , so did Thousands of other people , "to
dig gold in USA" , or to the Intelectual Artistic Paris ,,, Many left
as Russia was in Chaos , hunger . Amongst those who left Russia , not
all were liberal , Autheists and whatever you claimed her to be.
mirjam






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Oh , was it sombody else here ? who claimed to have read and studied
Budhism for 25 years ????
To me your Talks about "What and how Budihism changed your life and
your behaviour " , equals preaching, To you,as A convert into Budihism
[ you aren`t a born Budhist ] It may not look like preaching.
mirjam
First of all, I never said my knowledge comes from 25 years of reading and
studying Buddhism, nor do I preach.





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Victoria , i am sorry , but i can`t remember [ nore do i care in Ayn
Rand`s case] books that i have read ,,, when i was 17 , [ i am nowc
61] since than i lead `quite` a full life , Studied a lot travelled
brought up 2 kids , lived through several wars , and long time Terror
threats ,,, Became an Artist had some wonderful exhibition , curated
some exhibition and am now working on more art and research/translate
Historical documents ,,,
I just followed the Ceremony in Auschwitz , where so many of my family
were Murdered as well as from my husband`s Family ... So sorry i can`t
remember all the books that i read and i lost my high school and
University time Book reports ,,I used to write book reports until i
had my eldest , stopped than and only lately restarted doing .
BuT i assure you i have read many of Ayn rand`s books , some
translated into Hebrew and some in English ...
mirjam

None of this has addressed Ayn Rand. I would like to know particular books of
hers where she supports Nazi's.


On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:58:40 GMT, (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen)
opined:

I have not forgotten that Nazi stands for National Socilalism , but
there wasn`t much Socialism in their ideaology ..
May i remind you that socilaistrs were murdered by the Nazies, and
Socialist countries fought with them ... The name Socialist was
applied to the worf National , just as a cover up to their real
NATIONALISTIC agenda.
The more i read and study about the Nazi behaviour the more i see how
extrremely Clever they were in hiding real things , making people ,
whole nations , belive they mean one thing while they meant another
thing . [ See at the way in which they started prescuting the Jews ,
in different ways in each country, In Poland they Started with
brutality right away , while in Hollnad they played Being Nice , and
polite ...] . I think we better not start that debate again , you have
your Beliefs i have mine , Historical Knowledge is not always a one
way road ,,, I remember the time your annexed Binjamin Ze`Ev Theodor
Hertzel , as important to you.. While for those who follow his
footsteps , he is the Father of modern Zionism , The prophet of Modern
Israel . We will never agree on many points of view , as we see them
from so far away , probbaly almost not to be abridged by mutual
understnding.
mirjam


Rand was an individualist. Nazism is a collectivist ideology. The two
things are fundamentally incompatible. That Rand was extremely
anti-socialist does not make her a Nazi, in fact, it would do the
opposite. Or have you forgotten that Nazism stands for "National
Socialist?"

Elizabeth
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Thanks Brenda, I didn't know that. My mom is on blood thinner since her
stroke. I must see what it is SHE'S on now!

Maureen In Vancouver, B.C.

Brenda wrote:
Yes, it can be used as rat poison. It is also a common blood thinner
and has been used for a long time. It requires careful monitoring.

Maureen Miller wrote:

Warfarin? Um...that's rat poison, is it not? Something scary there
when our so called medical professionals start prescribing rat poison
for human consumption!


--
Brenda

Gillian Murray wrote:

I must have been mistaken, or misread the article from which I made this
statement. My understanding was that the Canadian Government arranged the
contract for the purchase of medications from the manufacturers, thus
ensuring that the pharmacies got the lowest price available. I knew most
people paid for their meds, but thought they may have been subsidised.

Thanks for setting me straight.

Gillian
"clancy" wrote in message
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We pay for our drugs - tho' if one has a health plan, they do get
discounts - after all what would the health plan be for? Only drugs which
you were on before joining the health plan And no, warfarin does not
need
'constant' adjusting - my Mother has been on it for years and it's only
recently that they had to keep changing the dosage - now it's been at 2 mg
for about three months and, who knows, may stay there forever. I've never
heard that the government buys the drugs - I always thought the drugstores
bought them - I could be wrong however.

Sharon (N.B.)
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"Gillian Murray" wrote in message
news:F1ZJd.448$lg5.321@trnddc06...


But, Sharon, drugs like warfarin need constant adjusting, because of the
results they are given on the blood tests; consequently the prescription
will vary.There are many drugs, which taken on a regular basis have no


real


variables.

My big argument with "Buy Canada" is that, from what I have read, the
Canadian government buy on a "huge" order from these companies, so that


they


can be sold at a discount to Canadians. Canadians pay quite a bit


annually


for their governmental health care, and I suspect that is where this
arrangement originates.

It sems very wrong to me that Americans are horning in on this discount.
Inevitably, one of two things will happen.

1.Americans can no longer buy from over the border.
2. Canadians will pay more for medicines!!

It sounds quick and easy, but like everything, I suspect it is not!!
Gillian
Florida

"clancy" wrote in message
news

Well I must say I like my doctor's method better - I'm glad she checks


our


system before refilling our prescriptions - our bodies keep changing.


My


Mother for instance will be on 2 mg of warfarin for 2 weeks, then they


do


blood work and put her on 4 mg, check blood again, put her on 1 1/2.
To
me
refilling a prescription for a whole year is a little non-caring. Just


my


opinion.

Sharon (N.B.)



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"Meredith" wrote in message
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I believe that a prescription is valid for up to one year in the


States,


if the doctor writes enough refills. On my prescription bottle, it


says


refillable until a year minus a day from when the script was written.

Meredith

Lucille wrote:


The company I get my drugs from requires a new prescription every 6


months,


which is the same as the rules here. Whether they are doing that


because


they're shipping to the States, or that's their policy for Canadian


citizens


I don't know.

Lucille

"Brenda" wrote in message
om...



Are prescriptions good for only one year in Canada or can they be


used


longer? There are probably some people who would find it worth a


trip


to


Canada once a year or less to see a physician if that's what it came
to.
If the prescription is good for a much shorter time period, then it


would


probably be beneficial only to those who already live near the


border.


F.James Cripwell wrote:



On-line drug sales from Canada to the USA may well be coming
to


a


close. It is illegal to dispense such medications without a


doctor's


signature, in Canada. Some doctor's have been signing the


prescriptions


on
the basis that they are doing the right thing, even though they
have


not


seen the patient in person. There is a law in Canada which says


this


must
not be done. Now the Canadian authorities are seriously thinking
of
enforcing
this law. If physcians no longer sign prescriptions for patients


they


have not personally seen, then the whole of the internet drug sales
between
Canada and the USA will come to a grinding halt.


--
Brenda















Gillian:

You are correct in that the Canadian government does negotiate with the
drug companies for the lowest prices. It also encourages the use of
generic versions which are usually much cheaper. Each province has its
own formulary as to what is covered by provinicial health plans.

My Mom is on a number of drugs since she had quint by-pass surgery more
than 10 years ago. And, yes - her warfarin dosage is constantly
changing. She has blood work done on a regular basis,(the tech comes to
the house) and the dosage gets adjusted depending on the results.

She's in Ontario and and, as a senior, pays only the $6.11 dispensing
fee for any drugs covered by the provincial plan (after an annual $100
deductible). All of her drugs (for heart and glaucoma) are covered. It
may vary with other provinces.

I' m on a couple of drugs - for asthma and high blood pressure - My
generic 'Ventolin' puffers costs about $18.95 each, my Flovent about
$89.00, and my diruetic (3 months supply) cost $15.29. Since I'm
working the drug plan at work covers most of this.

Marg