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Old November 20th 04, 05:49 PM
Su/Cutworks
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Emma wrote:

I think that was an inspired name. After all, is that just what our
other halves always say each time another beady envelope drops through
the door!


Yep. Even now.

Ok, so probably not Mike, seeing as he is a bead-head too ;-)


He thinks I'm being unfaithful!

:-)

-Su


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Old November 20th 04, 06:21 PM
E J Ralph
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Lol, Priceless!

Bob just thinks that all I have going on in my head is chocolate and
beads. Like that episode of the Simpsons, where we could see in his
head and it was just full of dancing ostriches or something.

Trouble is, he is probably right!

Emma


On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:49:10 +0000 (UTC), "Su/Cutworks"
wrote:

Emma wrote:

I think that was an inspired name. After all, is that just what our
other halves always say each time another beady envelope drops through
the door!


Yep. Even now.

Ok, so probably not Mike, seeing as he is a bead-head too ;-)


He thinks I'm being unfaithful!

:-)

-Su


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Old November 20th 04, 06:23 PM
E J Ralph
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There is a lot of affectation in British English.
Especially in some of the surnames or place names of the upper
classes. I swear they just invent a stupid way to say their estate's
name so they can look down on anyone who doesnt know it.

Case in point - Princess Di's brother's gaff - Althorp. Why on EARTH
is it pronounced "althrop" - purely so they can laugh at the peasants
- cannot be any other reason!

Emma

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:43:34 +0000 (UTC), "Su/Cutworks"
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Emma wrote:

Britain is so full of local dialects and accents, that that in itself
gives new words or new meanings to words if you just drive 50 miles
up'road!


Now't queerer than folk, lass.

I am half-way through reading Melvyn Bragg's book on the evolution of
the English language at the moment. It is fascinating and I highly
recommend it to anyone who is interested in the English language.


Did you see the series? It was wonderful.

For instance, I never knew that back when the USA was being born -
American English was considered to be much purer and closer to proper
English for a long while. I always assumed that when an American says
words such as 'gotten' where we would say 'got' - that it was an
American evolution to the language. But according to Bragg, 'gotten'
was original and the Brits dropped the ending and shortened the word -
which many found quite slovenly. Come to think of it though, I am sure
many dialects up North still use gotten too. There are plenty other
examples like this that are in the book.


What I fail to comprehend is the use of the ending -tate. Orientate to
orient someone in a direction. It seems superfluous to me. And odd to an
American ear that has gotten used to most British terminology. It sounds
fairly BBC-inspired which means it's more an affectation than anything else.

-Su


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Old November 20th 04, 06:45 PM
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Case in point - Princess Di's brother's gaff - Althorp. Why on EARTH
is it pronounced "althrop" - purely so they can laugh at the peasants
- cannot be any other reason!


We have that problem here, too. There's a county in Georgia named
Taliaferro. But it's pronounced "Tolliver." When I asked why, I was told
"To embarrass the po' folks when they say it wrong."




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Old November 20th 04, 06:57 PM
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What I fail to comprehend is the use of the ending -tate. Orientate to
orient someone in a direction.


Arrgh! That drives me nuts. I figure the person using "orientate" is
illiterate when I hear that.
~~
Sooz
The things that will destroy us a politics without principle; pleasure
without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business
without morality; science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice. - M.
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Old November 20th 04, 07:16 PM
Su/Cutworks
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Emma wrote:

Bob just thinks that all I have going on in my head is chocolate and
beads. Like that episode of the Simpsons, where we could see in his
head and it was just full of dancing ostriches or something.


The chocolate and beads sounds much more attractive, and fairly close to
what goes on in my head anyway!

Trouble is, he is probably right!


I could not possibly comment.

:-D

-Su


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Old November 20th 04, 07:26 PM
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Like that episode of the Simpsons, where we could see in his
head and it was just full of dancing ostriches or something.


HAW HAW! And floor pie.
~~
Sooz
The things that will destroy us a politics without principle; pleasure
without conscience; wealth without work; knowledge without character; business
without morality; science without humanity, and worship without sacrifice. - M.
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Old November 20th 04, 08:49 PM
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The one that gets me is "I" instead of "me". As in, "He brought it over to
show Ginger and I how it works". People who do this know better than to say
"He brought it over to show I".

Tina


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Ah - now that one I didn't know. Less - fewer.

So am I understanding right that you can say "I have 3 beads less than
you" but if you dont know how many beads it would be "I have fewer
beads than you" but never "I have 3 beads fewer than you? or "I have
less beads than you?"

I never knew that one, but it does sort of make sense. Sometimes the
things that are wrong just sound wrong. One that bugs me here,
especially in the South East of England where I live is people mixing
up the words "Brought" and "Bought" - it is amazing how many times I
hear that around here.

Emma

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 20:15:29 -0500, Kathy N-V
wrote:
. Another one is the difference between "less"
and "fewer." I want to jump up and down and scream when I see the
"10 items of less" lines at the supermarket. If you don't know how
much, the answer is fewer.

Annoyingly,

Kathy N-V




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Old November 20th 04, 08:55 PM
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There used to be a lampworker here who always complained about her beads not
selling, and selling below what she expected. It really drove customers
away. It felt like a criticism of potential customers, which alienates
people.

Tina


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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 11:55:05 -0900, "Christina Peterson"
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Nope - not really.

I think most people can tell it is very tongue in cheek.

Can't spend your whole life worrying how other's will perceive you
anyway. Just gotta get on do your thing, true to your own self, and
hope that someone, somewhere gets your vibe I guess.

Emma

Aren't you concerned that your "Broken Heart" auction on Just Beads will
turn of bidders?

Tina




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Old November 20th 04, 09:16 PM
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We have a small town east of here called Lafayette - spelled like the French
general, but pronounced, La FAY it. Also another VA town is Buena Vista, not
pronounced as you'd expect by being Spanish BWA na VEES ta, but BEU na, vis
TA. We also have a small town named Ironto, EYE ron toe, that the locals
call Iron TOE just to confuse visitors. If you are lost already, trying to
find the iron toe can be most amusing, well to them anyway, maybe not to
you! LOL And we have a town called Staunton, and I'm not sure if you're
supposed to say STAUNT on or STAND ton. No matter which way I say it,
someone will tell me I'm wrong!

I have heard that Applachian English is the purest form of English left,
although I don't think many speak that dialect anymore. TV is murder on
dialects, everybody tries to speak alike it seems to me, generic American.
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Case in point - Princess Di's brother's gaff - Althorp. Why on EARTH
is it pronounced "althrop" - purely so they can laugh at the peasants
- cannot be any other reason!


We have that problem here, too. There's a county in Georgia named
Taliaferro. But it's pronounced "Tolliver." When I asked why, I was told
"To embarrass the po' folks when they say it wrong."






 




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