OT/ Tips on pumping gas

Well, this discussion usually degrades to how little americans
pay for fuel. It isn't that we pay less for fuel, we pay less
taxes with our fuel. At around $90 a barrel for crude (not exactly sure
what the price right now) nobody is getting cheap fuel!
DD gets 30 mpg around town and dd gets over 39. Not sure what
mine gets but it leaves the house so little I don't use much
fuel.
Taria

Lizzy Taylor wrote:



Why figure it without taxes? You have to pay 'em when all is said and
done. Our UK fuel prices would be incredibly low without taxes, with
the taxes they are painfully high. I am just thankful that European
engines tend to be much more economical than US ones and also using
mostly stick shifts also makes a big difference to fuel economy.

Lizzy

My big 4 wheel drive truck is a gas hog and I'm living on a modest fixed
income, but I've managed to get my trips to town pared down to one tank of
gasoline a month. That's about 300-340 miles a month at a cost of around
$55-60. It's worth it to me. I feel much safer- and more comfy- in a big
truck.

Leslie, Missy & The Furbabies in MO.

"Taria" wrote in message
news:OoFqj.30893$xE.20850@trnddc01...
Well, this discussion usually degrades to how little americans
pay for fuel. It isn't that we pay less for fuel, we pay less
taxes with our fuel. At around $90 a barrel for crude (not exactly sure
what the price right now) nobody is getting cheap fuel!
DD gets 30 mpg around town and dd gets over 39. Not sure what
mine gets but it leaves the house so little I don't use much
fuel.
Taria

Lizzy Taylor wrote:



Why figure it without taxes? You have to pay 'em when all is said and
done. Our UK fuel prices would be incredibly low without taxes, with the
taxes they are painfully high. I am just thankful that European engines
tend to be much more economical than US ones and also using mostly stick
shifts also makes a big difference to fuel economy.

Lizzy

that was sarcasm, Jeanne.

Cindy


"nzlstar*" wrote in message
...
uh ok.
j.

"teleflora" wrote...
Yeah, it is cheap gas. And we are entitled to it.
Cindy

"nzlstar*" wrote...
wow, that is cheap gas you got there.
j.

"grammykathy" wrote...
I got this from my exDIL and thought I would share.

TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information)

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon.

"Michelle" wrote in message
t...
Don't get me wrong, I love America, especially Texas! But, we could learn
a lot from looking at other countries.
Michelle

No, we can't! How dare you say that. Other countries are supposed to learn
from us, not the other way around.

Cindy also sarcasm, Jeanne.

tis difficult to 'read' sarcasm without some facial expression or tone of voice
to consider.
add to that i'm running on little sleep more days than not.
i cant even 'read' myself lately. my opinions rarely concur with others at any
rate.
its probly cuz i've split my life (as of now) nearly in half between two very
different countrys,
neither of which can now tell where i come from cuz the accent is just weird, at
best.
most of the time i feel like i have no country to call home now. oh well. :-/
its my own fault, i should of stayed put i guess, too late now, eh.
that said, i think i absorbed a lot of the canadian from my mom
so probly would of felt different from the rest of society had i stayed in the
usa all those years ago.
oh woe is me. shrug,
up earlier than i'd like yet again in the south pacific and therefore groggy,
j.

"teleflora" wrote...
No, we can't! How dare you say that. Other countries are supposed to learn
from us, not the other way around.

Cindy also sarcasm, Jeanne.

"Michelle" wrote...
Don't get me wrong, I love America, especially Texas! But, we could learn a
lot from looking at other countries.
Michelle

Thats $7.85 per US gallon - or translated just over £4 per UK gallon. ouch!

Our uk manufacturered quilt fabric is still twice as expensive as the
same stuff exported to the US!

Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)



nzlstar* wrote:
goodness, Sally,
is that 7.85 US$ or UK pounds or Euros?
either way sounds outrageous to me.
i just worked out it costs NZ$70 to fill my 40 litre (10.8 US gallon) tank here.
ok, i'm gonna let dh do that from now on, that is just ridiculous.
i know what you mean about crying tho. (
much like buying most things here.
even stuff we export we pay the equivelent to what they can get for it overseas
in bigger markets.
this is cuz if we didnt pay that much they'd just export all of it and none
would stay here for our market.
not things but foods are the exports that cost so much here that drive me
bonkers.
exported things dont affect my standard of living so much as i'm not a huge
consumer.
i try to make things last as long as i can and i'm not out buying the latest and
biggest of whatever is being sold.
amazes me folks here do that and then bitch cuz they're broke and in debt.
who really needs a huuuuuuuge TV set. the size of the room should determine the
size of tv needed there.
our livingroom/lounge is 4.5 x 6 metres and we've got a 29" tv, works great, any
bigger and the room'd be all wonky-boo.
you'd think as it is made here it would cost less than if we were overseas,
minus the taxes etc.
iirc, the cost of the Oz P and Q mag is more here, just across the ditch from
Oz, than it cost in USA.
i'm guessing it is cuz of a bigger market than NZ has and also the exchange rate
is still in the USA favour to both Oz and Nz.
its shocking but thats the world market for ya, eh. oh well.
j.

"Sally Swindells" wrote...
Here its 7.85 per US Gallon.

Everytime I see the US prices I want to cry! Admittedly the tax makes it high
but employed people pay a separate amount for medical/social care so its
general taxation. We paid this National Insurance tax for over 40 years

We are retired so on a fixed income. I now only travel when I have to and try
to include more than one reason for the journey. If I am very careful/lucky I
can now make a tank of petrol last almost 2 months. I just stick to the local
journeys that are too far to walk or where the shopping is too heavy to carry.

Unfortunately DH is not as frugal!

Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)

Taria wrote:
Out of your pocket it might not be relevant. Some countries use
fuel taxes to pay for different things. If it goes to pay for your
medical care than you are not just buying gas you are paying a
health care premium too. So in effect if you take the taxes
off the top you can compare really what the differences are from
country to country. The world gas market is a world market.
Taria


nzlstar* wrote:
i dont understand why taking off tax etc paid at the pump is relevant.
its what i have to pay.
i'm assuming the $3.50 in usa that granny quoted is what she pays at the
pump.
on less that useful sleep.....our cost is NZ$6.50 a US gallon.
too groggy to work out what the exchange rate on that is.
tho doesnt really equate as it is relevant to cost of living and take home
pay or whatever other things i cant think of now.
groggy,
j

eeeeeeeek, to make it sound even worse.
one UK pound is NZ$3, so exchanged equals NZ$12 per US gallon.
the insanity multiplys expotentially or sumpin like that.
j.

"Sally Swindells" wrote...
Thats $7.85 per US gallon - or translated just over £4 per UK gallon. ouch!

Our uk manufacturered quilt fabric is still twice as expensive as the same
stuff exported to the US!
Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)


nzlstar* wrote:
goodness, Sally,
is that 7.85 US$ or UK pounds or Euros?
either way sounds outrageous to me.
i just worked out it costs NZ$70 to fill my 40 litre (10.8 US gallon) tank
here.
ok, i'm gonna let dh do that from now on, that is just ridiculous.
i know what you mean about crying tho. (
much like buying most things here.
even stuff we export we pay the equivelent to what they can get for it
overseas in bigger markets.
this is cuz if we didnt pay that much they'd just export all of it and none
would stay here for our market.
not things but foods are the exports that cost so much here that drive me
bonkers.
exported things dont affect my standard of living so much as i'm not a huge
consumer.
i try to make things last as long as i can and i'm not out buying the latest
and biggest of whatever is being sold.
amazes me folks here do that and then bitch cuz they're broke and in debt.
who really needs a huuuuuuuge TV set. the size of the room should determine
the size of tv needed there.
our livingroom/lounge is 4.5 x 6 metres and we've got a 29" tv, works great,
any bigger and the room'd be all wonky-boo.
you'd think as it is made here it would cost less than if we were overseas,
minus the taxes etc.
iirc, the cost of the Oz P and Q mag is more here, just across the ditch from
Oz, than it cost in USA.
i'm guessing it is cuz of a bigger market than NZ has and also the exchange
rate is still in the USA favour to both Oz and Nz.
its shocking but thats the world market for ya, eh. oh well.
j.

"Sally Swindells" wrote...
Here its 7.85 per US Gallon.

Everytime I see the US prices I want to cry! Admittedly the tax makes it
high but employed people pay a separate amount for medical/social care so
its general taxation. We paid this National Insurance tax for over 40 years

We are retired so on a fixed income. I now only travel when I have to and
try to include more than one reason for the journey. If I am very
careful/lucky I can now make a tank of petrol last almost 2 months. I just
stick to the local journeys that are too far to walk or where the shopping
is too heavy to carry.

Unfortunately DH is not as frugal!

Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk)

Taria wrote:
Out of your pocket it might not be relevant. Some countries use
fuel taxes to pay for different things. If it goes to pay for your
medical care than you are not just buying gas you are paying a
health care premium too. So in effect if you take the taxes
off the top you can compare really what the differences are from
country to country. The world gas market is a world market.
Taria


nzlstar* wrote:
i dont understand why taking off tax etc paid at the pump is relevant.
its what i have to pay.
i'm assuming the $3.50 in usa that granny quoted is what she pays at the
pump.
on less that useful sleep.....our cost is NZ$6.50 a US gallon.
too groggy to work out what the exchange rate on that is.
tho doesnt really equate as it is relevant to cost of living and take home
pay or whatever other things i cant think of now.
groggy,
j

Good golly. YOu would think we would all just
stay home and quilt!
Taria

nzlstar* wrote:

eeeeeeeek, to make it sound even worse.
one UK pound is NZ$3, so exchanged equals NZ$12 per US gallon.
the insanity multiplys expotentially or sumpin like that.
j.

Sally Swindells wrote:
Thats $7.85 per US gallon - or translated just over £4 per UK gallon. ouch!

Our uk manufacturered quilt fabric is still twice as expensive as the
same stuff exported to the US!

....and hence why UK quilters have the dilemma of pay through the nose at
the LQS (twice in fact, once for the fabric and once for the fuel to get
there) or order online from the US and get the fabric delivered to the
door for significantly less (including postage and duties if applicable)
than the trip to the LQS.

Personally I do a bit of each.

Lizzy

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:52:09 -0600, grammykathy wrote
(in article
):

I got this from my exDIL and thought I would share.

TIPS ON PUMPING GAS (Good information)

I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... but here in
California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my
line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some
tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon..

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we
deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline.
One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and
premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of
16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the
ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations
have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground
the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so
buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not
exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and
the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and
other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in
temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations
do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a
fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)
stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on
low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you
are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are
pumping on the fast rate, some of the liquid that goes to your tank
becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the
underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is
HALF FULL. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank
the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster
than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating
roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the
atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations,
here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated
so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the
storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely
the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and
you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the
bottom.

Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS!

GrammyKathy


Interesting. I knew about some of this, but not all.

Maureen