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Thanks for the cool and informative message. In some ways, I'm the
least dyslexic person there is. I learned to read straight away, then had no trouble learning to read Hebrew and music. It's not that I'm talented in either, I'm just good at picking up symbols in order. But the lefts and rights thing could drive me nuts. I can pull into a parking lot from one direction, then get mixed up pulling out from the same spot. Maps, landmarks, equally useless. I adore New York City where I can look in the distance and see the numbered street signs going up or down and thereby figure out which way north is. Only then does a map help, where everything has a sign on it anyway. I'm great with signs printed in English. Similarly, the marks on rulers and the math needed for quilting has never presented a problem for me. This morning I was at it again. After all I wrote about coming up with ingenious little ways to count and keep track of the blocks and their mirror images, I still managed to get a set mixed up. My chart clearly said L for left, but I reached for the right template and got a set wrong. When I pointed out the tragedy to Jim, he suggested that the extra right set could be used over there instead of down here and that the colors would be fine, but until I got to that point, I felt like I was being punished for my hubris in thinking I could do it. --Lia Pati C. wrote: Julia, and others, there are a bunch of tests that can be given to check a number of different learning styles and so forth. Some of these end up being confused with "IQ tests" and involve pattern recognition.VBG I am one of those people who tend to do very well on them. Many others don't. It all depends on the way your mind operates and how you have learned to do a lot of different things. Usually I can deal with shoes, not sure about gloves because they are not in high demand where I have lived most of my life. G But then again, I don't always think "with words".... I see my shoes, and reach out to the correct one with the correct foot, not really thinking about left/right. G With quilt blocks, I do tend to see the pattern, and notice things like mirror image, rotation and so on. Most of the time. But that is just me. I also am good with maps, and when I know the major landmarks I don't usually get lost. G Do know that I end up being very uncomfortable after too long in the Central Plains states because there are no mountains to help me know where what is. G When I have a quilt/block that has mirror images I usually layer my fabric with right sides together and cut mirrored pairs. That way I don't cut uneven numbers of parts. (don't ask.....) As a note, when I write patterns that is what I recommend doing too. It just makes it a bit easier in my mind. The way you did it is definitely a workable solution.VBG and it works for you, which is the important part. Glad to see you back with us. |
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"Julia Altshuler" wrote in message . .. Thanks for the cool and informative message. In some ways, I'm the least dyslexic person there is. I learned to read straight away, then had no trouble learning to read Hebrew and music. It's not that I'm talented in either, I'm just good at picking up symbols in order. I've read some interesting studies about the differences in how people fix "maps" (whether it a paper map, a mental map of your town, or a quilt block) in their mind. Some people need everything to be in a fixed orientation or need to see things in a certain order, while others have no problem with rotations and translations. It's just how your brain works best, so you go with it. My brain does rotations and translations very well -- too well, because often when I see something rotated or flipped, I don't realize there is a difference. Needless to say, I stink at telling my left shoe from my right, but I can read upside down almost as fast as I can read rightside up. -- Kathy A. (Woodland, CA) Queen of Fabric Tramps http://fabrictramp.typepad.com/fabric_tramping/ remove the obvious to reply |
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On 8 Dec, 02:54, "Pati C." wrote:
Julia, and others, there are a bunch of tests that can be given to check a number of different learning styles and so forth. Some of these end up being confused with "IQ tests" and involve pattern recognition.VBG I am one of those people who tend to do very well on them. Many others don't. It all depends on the way your mind operates and how you have learned to do a lot of different things. Usually I can deal with shoes, not sure about gloves because they are not in high demand where I have lived most of my life. G But then again, I don't always think "with words".... I see my shoes, and reach out to the correct one with the correct foot, not really thinking about left/right. G With quilt blocks, I do tend to see the pattern, and notice things like mirror image, rotation and so on. Most of the time. But that is just me. I also am good with maps, and when I know the major landmarks I don't usually get lost. G Do know that I end up being very uncomfortable after too long in the Central Plains states because there are no mountains to help me know where what is. G When I have a quilt/block that has mirror images I usually layer my fabric with right sides together and cut mirrored pairs. That way I don't cut uneven numbers of parts. (don't ask.....) As a note, when I write patterns that is what I recommend doing too. It just makes it a bit easier in my mind. The way you did it is definitely a workable solution.VBG and it works for you, which is the important part. Glad to see you back with us. Pati, in Phx Julia Altshuler wrote: This leads me to another question. You see a glove lying on a table. How long does it take you to figure out if it is a right or a left? Can you look at it and know immediately? What about with a shoe? I'm a little faster with shoes, but they puzzle me. With gloves, I have to pick it up and test it against my right and left hands while thinking about it consciously. I have no faster or more automatic way of doing it. With this pattern, I ultimately ended up drafting the triangle block twice. One I colored with red crayon and put it on the right side of my table. The other I colored with lemon yellow crayon and put it on the left side of my table. Then, as I made the pieces, I used the red/right or lemon/left templates, and stacked them the red/right or lemon/left side of my table. I have no faster or more automatic way of doing it. --Lia My twin sister and I both give directions in the car confusing left and right! We *know* what we mean but can't articulate it - so we use our hands. Weird. However, I do have a good sense of direction ( I was a map maker in another life, okay, so it was geology....) and am a good navigator when we are driving in foreign lands (making allowances for the above foible). -- Bronnie |
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Bronnie wrote:
My twin sister and I both give directions in the car confusing left and right! We *know* what we mean but can't articulate it - so we use our hands. Weird. I'm the same way. It's frustrating to DH when he's driving and I'm navigating. Julia in MN -- This message has been scanned for viruses by Norton Anti-Virus http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/ |
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Kathy Applebaum wrote:
I've read some interesting studies about the differences in how people fix "maps" (whether it a paper map, a mental map of your town, or a quilt block) in their mind. Some people need everything to be in a fixed orientation or need to see things in a certain order, while others have no problem with rotations and translations. It's just how your brain works best, so you go with it. My brain does rotations and translations very well -- too well, because often when I see something rotated or flipped, I don't realize there is a difference. Needless to say, I stink at telling my left shoe from my right, but I can read upside down almost as fast as I can read rightside up. There we go. Reading upside down. Back before he realized it was useless, Jim used to insist that I keep the map in my lap and navigate while he drove. If we were facing south, I'd put the map upside down so the map accurately reflected the lay of the land. I could flip the letters in my brain with ease. Flipping the orientation of the map in my brain was a no-go. Jim thought it was hysterical. --Lia |
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Three cheers for the 'Lady in the Sky'. She is my friend! She can even
navigate the right way to go round roundabouts in France. DSonIL has recently done driving trips to Italy on his own and asked if we had any tips as he hadn't done big trips abroad, just a hire car in the area they were on holiday. Our first tip was 'The Lady in the Sky' (TomTom), and he now agrees, although DD says she wishes the lady wouldn't talk over the radio just when the punch line of a joke/quiz happens! Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) Julia in MN wrote: Bronnie wrote: My twin sister and I both give directions in the car confusing left and right! We *know* what we mean but can't articulate it - so we use our hands. Weird. I'm the same way. It's frustrating to DH when he's driving and I'm navigating. Julia in MN |
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I've now found an email address for Barron's and written to report the
error to them. I've also found an email address for Celia Eddy and written to her. I don't know if either address is up to date. --Lia |
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I just tell my driver to go the way I point not the way I say cos I tend to
say left regardless. It just comes out of my mouth that way. Heather in West Oz "Sally Swindells" wrote in message ... Three cheers for the 'Lady in the Sky'. She is my friend! She can even navigate the right way to go round roundabouts in France. DSonIL has recently done driving trips to Italy on his own and asked if we had any tips as he hadn't done big trips abroad, just a hire car in the area they were on holiday. Our first tip was 'The Lady in the Sky' (TomTom), and he now agrees, although DD says she wishes the lady wouldn't talk over the radio just when the punch line of a joke/quiz happens! Sally at the Seaside ~~~~~~~~~~ (uk) Julia in MN wrote: Bronnie wrote: My twin sister and I both give directions in the car confusing left and right! We *know* what we mean but can't articulate it - so we use our hands. Weird. I'm the same way. It's frustrating to DH when he's driving and I'm navigating. Julia in MN |
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