a new development in Scotland

My DH works for Amtrak and they have "quiet" cars where no cell phones,
pagers, DVD players, laptops or loud conversations are allowed. And the
riders are not afraid of telling anyone who breaks the rule to get off the
phone! It is a joy to just sit and read a book! Strange that we would
need these kinds of rail cars, but I'm glad we do!

My cell phone is on vibrate unless I'm in the car where I need to be able to
hear it over the dull roar of the traffic. I normally carry my phone in a
holder on my waist band so I can "feel" it when it "rings".

--
Alice in NJ, Royal Cybrarian
http://www.ourcyberfamily.us/
"Just about the time a woman thinks her work is done, she becomes a
grandmother." Edward H. Dreschnack



"TerriLee in WA" tlbishop at earthlink dot net wrote in message
...
: Most phones can be set to silent mode, and *should* be!! I was on the
train
: last Thurs, (see my rant in another thread), and the constant ringing of
: cell phones nearly drove me to screaming.
: --
: TerriLee in WA (state)
:
: "Cats" wrote in message
: ...
: Now that is not only rude, it's just plain outrageous!
:
: The last time I chaired a business meeting and a mobile
: phone went off I invited the recipient of the call to put it
: on the speaker phone for the whole room to hear rather than
: make us all listen to only one side of the conversation, . .
: . . . or else leave.
:
: He got miffed and left - to the applause of three of the
: other people in the room.
:
: He was not missed!!
:
: I teach groups of friends about quilting in my home, but IF
: they bring their phones to an organised class, and IF the
: phones ring during a class involving other people, I quietly
: and politely ask them to leave the room to take the call or
: message, and go on with the class.
:
: I HATE MOBILE PHONES!! The number of people in the world
: who are truly that important and indespensible to the
: welfare of humanity is simply not that high. I'm sorry -
: but I see 95% of mobile phones as just another load of ego
: enhancers.
:
: And that goes double for people who continually text
: messages, even as they speak to you. Neither of the people
: being communicated with is getting the appropriate degree of
: attention, and it is rude to both.
:
: Here it is illegal to use a handheld mobile while driving -
: but that seems to have made little or no difference to most
: drivers. How they can expect to drive safely while texting
: is beyond me!
:
:
:
: Now climbing quietly down of my soap box. Hope I have not
: pierced any eardrums with my rant.
:
: --
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:
: "Ginger in CA" wrote in message
: ups.com...
: : Oh, Polly, the most embarrassing thing yesterday - I went
: to the
: : funeral for my friend's daughter. She passed after a long
: battle with
: : brain cancer.
: :
: : Two people didn't set their cell phones to silent. You
: guessed it -
: : they went off during the funeral Mass.
: :
: : Ginger in CA
: :
:
:
:
:

Florida has No Smoking in public buildings!! We moved to Louisiana from
Florida 2 1/2 years ago and I miss the No Smoking restaurants!! It was
strange to go in and be asked "Smoking orNon?" Wish there was a non-smoking
rule in all restaurants!!

--
Donna in NE La.
"Batik Freak" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Man I really wish the USA would get with the program on smoking - I hate
it. Slowly but surely most good restaurants around here are going to
either totally nonsmoking, or smoking ONLY in the bar, but it will take
(literally) an act of Congress (or possibly an act of the gods...) to get
freedom from smoke in all public places. I keep hearing from
restaurant folk all this whining about "O the smokers won't go out to eat
and we'll lose business." That's just crap. In exactly NONE of the
restaurants I've been to has this happened. Usually, in restaurants where
there IS still smoking, there is a wait for the non-smoking section.
Restauranteurs are getting the clue - last week, I saw a sign at a
die-hard, "family style" restaurant that said WE WILL BE ALL NONSMOKING ON
SUNDAYS. Hopefully it won't be long til every day is Sunday there.....

L

"Sylvi" wrote in message
...
Aha - but Kiwiland passed that law last year.....good on the Scots for
doing the same...
but I can't see how quilts would smell any better with the aroma of beer
wafting thru them
Quilts in pubs??? Not down here I don't think...but then again, maybe in
a quiet corner....
cheers
Sylvi
sylviald at ihug dot co dot nz



"KJ" wrote in message
news:M6HVf.51300$oL.35147@attbi_s71...
Well, darn. We just missed it by a few months. That law would have
certainly made our trip (albeit very nice) even more memorable.
Congrats to the forward thinking Scots. Lift a glass to better smelling
quilts! Cheers!
KJ

"Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message
...
The ban on smoking in public places in Scotland came into force today.
I was playing at an afternoon folk session, the difference was amazing
(mainly, people talk much more quietly when they're not smoking, so we
could hear what we were doing a lot better - more details in a post I
made to uk.music.folk and rec.travel.europe).

Marion has occasionally tried handquilting in Bell's while I'm playing.
The problem is that it was so smoky the quilt ended up smelling like an
ashtray, particularly since the player I described as the Fire Goddess
joined us.

Now, no smoke. Scottish pubs have become quilting-friendly.

============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk
==============
Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131
660 4760
http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870
0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800
739 557

Yep, Linda that is the town just south of me, that I referred to in my
post! )

Ginger in CA
Smoking is banned within 50' of the front door at work (our
courthouse), so it is amusing to see what people will do for a smoke
when it is raining - we have no overhang, no covered area .....

One of our LQS requires that you either turn off your cell phone or
leave it at the register if you are worried about an emergency call.
If a call would come through an employee would come to the classroom
and ask you to step outside.

At another LQS the owner and her employees always carry their private
cellphones and take personal calls. I have been trying to decide if I
should tell them how unprofessional it is to take a call while helping
a customer. One young employee has several of those novelty musical
ring tones which tell her who is calling. It is really annoying!

Susan

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:28:02 +1100, "Cats"
wrote:

Now that is not only rude, it's just plain outrageous!

The last time I chaired a business meeting and a mobile
phone went off I invited the recipient of the call to put it
on the speaker phone for the whole room to hear rather than
make us all listen to only one side of the conversation, . .
. . . or else leave.

He got miffed and left - to the applause of three of the
other people in the room.

He was not missed!!

I teach groups of friends about quilting in my home, but IF
they bring their phones to an organised class, and IF the
phones ring during a class involving other people, I quietly
and politely ask them to leave the room to take the call or
message, and go on with the class.

I HATE MOBILE PHONES!! The number of people in the world
who are truly that important and indespensible to the
welfare of humanity is simply not that high. I'm sorry -
but I see 95% of mobile phones as just another load of ego
enhancers.

And that goes double for people who continually text
messages, even as they speak to you. Neither of the people
being communicated with is getting the appropriate degree of
attention, and it is rude to both.

Here it is illegal to use a handheld mobile while driving -
but that seems to have made little or no difference to most
drivers. How they can expect to drive safely while texting
is beyond me!



Now climbing quietly down of my soap box. Hope I have not
pierced any eardrums with my rant.

Smoking is also the reason I don't join in many swaps. I can't stand to get
things in the mail that have been in a smoker's house, especially if it's
something that can't be washed immediately.
Gen

"nana2b" wrote in message
...
Yes I remember the smoke in Vegas. One big reason we don't go therevery
much and forget about gambling in that air.

Linda in Tx

I have always felt that it should be the buisness owners option as
to whether smoking in the place that they own should be allowed.
Truly public places are of course another matter entirely.

The primary rationale for the Scottish legislation is as a health and
safety issue. NO employer has the right to demand that their workers
should put up with the discomfort and risks of a smoky environment.
The ban on smoking in pubs is not primarily for the customers, it's
for the bar staff.

A workplace where the owner is the sole worker is exempt from the new
controls.

============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ==============
Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760
http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975
stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557

grrrrrrrr!!!!
yes by all means do tell them.
the customer is always right and if you, soooo rightly, feel she is ignoring
you to take personal calls then she is not doing her job.
the shop owner needs to understand and acknowledge this NOW!!
its the kids who grew up using a cell phone and just dont understand it is
plain rude.
i wonder if they didnt have a phone and were in the your shoes, say when out
trying to find a dress/shoes/make-up for the prom, would they feel ignored
by you.
yup, do tell the shop owner how you feel and leave it to her to decide how
to handle the issue. its her shop. if she does nothing, then i'd also tell
her you'll shop elsewhere til the cellphones stop ringing for her employees
when you should be the item of attention.
hmmm, just had a thot, how bout next time it happens you excuse yourself to
the girl saying, 'its ok, i'll find the shop owner to help me as you have to
talk to your friends now'. might the girl 'get' it then, hmmmm. oh well,
worth a shot i guess.
jeanne
--
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"Susan Laity Price" wrote...
One of our LQS requires that you either turn off your cell phone or
leave it at the register if you are worried about an emergency call.
If a call would come through an employee would come to the classroom
and ask you to step outside.

At another LQS the owner and her employees always carry their private
cellphones and take personal calls. I have been trying to decide if I
should tell them how unprofessional it is to take a call while helping
a customer. One young employee has several of those novelty musical
ring tones which tell her who is calling. It is really annoying!

Susan


"Cats" wrote:
Now that is not only rude, it's just plain outrageous!

The last time I chaired a business meeting and a mobile
phone went off I invited the recipient of the call to put it
on the speaker phone for the whole room to hear rather than
make us all listen to only one side of the conversation, . .
. . . or else leave.

He got miffed and left - to the applause of three of the
other people in the room.

He was not missed!!

I teach groups of friends about quilting in my home, but IF
they bring their phones to an organised class, and IF the
phones ring during a class involving other people, I quietly
and politely ask them to leave the room to take the call or
message, and go on with the class.

I HATE MOBILE PHONES!! The number of people in the world
who are truly that important and indespensible to the
welfare of humanity is simply not that high. I'm sorry -
but I see 95% of mobile phones as just another load of ego
enhancers.

And that goes double for people who continually text
messages, even as they speak to you. Neither of the people
being communicated with is getting the appropriate degree of
attention, and it is rude to both.

Here it is illegal to use a handheld mobile while driving -
but that seems to have made little or no difference to most
drivers. How they can expect to drive safely while texting
is beyond me!



Now climbing quietly down of my soap box. Hope I have not
pierced any eardrums with my rant.

*exactly*

--
Jessamy - the owner of a total of ZERO mobile phones
In The Netherlands
Take out: so much quilting to reply.
Time to accept, time to grow, time to take things slow
www.geocities.com/jess_ayad
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jes...pson/my_photos
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Now that is not only rude, it's just plain outrageous!

The last time I chaired a business meeting and a mobile
phone went off I invited the recipient of the call to put it
on the speaker phone for the whole room to hear rather than
make us all listen to only one side of the conversation, . .
.. . . or else leave.

He got miffed and left - to the applause of three of the
other people in the room.

He was not missed!!

I teach groups of friends about quilting in my home, but IF
they bring their phones to an organised class, and IF the
phones ring during a class involving other people, I quietly
and politely ask them to leave the room to take the call or
message, and go on with the class.

I HATE MOBILE PHONES!! The number of people in the world
who are truly that important and indespensible to the
welfare of humanity is simply not that high. I'm sorry -
but I see 95% of mobile phones as just another load of ego
enhancers.

And that goes double for people who continually text
messages, even as they speak to you. Neither of the people
being communicated with is getting the appropriate degree of
attention, and it is rude to both.

Here it is illegal to use a handheld mobile while driving -
but that seems to have made little or no difference to most
drivers. How they can expect to drive safely while texting
is beyond me!



Now climbing quietly down of my soap box. Hope I have not
pierced any eardrums with my rant.

--
Cats ^;;^ ^;;^ ^;;^
( U ) ( U ) ( U )
Enness Boofhead Donut

http://community.webshots.com/user/witchofthewest
catsatararatATyahooDOTcomDOTau

"Ginger in CA" wrote in message
ups.com...
: Oh, Polly, the most embarrassing thing yesterday - I went
to the
: funeral for my friend's daughter. She passed after a long
battle with
: brain cancer.
:
: Two people didn't set their cell phones to silent. You
guessed it -
: they went off during the funeral Mass.
:
: Ginger in CA
:

Howdy!
I have a mobile phone. It's one of the best security devises available.
When someone ran his car into my first PT Cruiser, my mobile phone was
very handy. When I'm out driving around and get lost, my phone finds our way
back home. g It's not the phone I bitch about, it's the users! LOL
I don't drive with it in my hand, don't talk on it when driving (notice that
even those who think they can drive while talking on the in-car phone or
the headset are not really paying attention and endanger the rest of us
trying to use the road). My phone is there for my convenience, to make
calls when I need/want to; leaving quilt shop, call Applebee's to order
a Santa Fe chicken salad to be picked up on the way home.
I don't care about hearing other people's conversations (they're really not
as interesting as they think g), don't want customers or clerks using them
instead of taking care of business, don't want to hear background life when
s-i-l calls me on her mobile phone while she's driving home from work,
stopping for gasoline, buying liquor. Really, what a world full of
egomaniacs who think they're personal business is interesting to the
general public. What did these people do before they had their hands
permanently wrapped around a telephone?
Of course, if someone wants to call me to tell me how to get to the
quilt shop (Hi, Janet!), I'm willing to pull over to talk on the phone. ;-D

Ragmop/Sandy-- Hang up! It's an automobile, not a phone booth on wheels!


On 3/28/06 2:42 PM, in article ,
"Jessamy" wrote:

*exactly* ---J's reply about annoying, rude phone users

Well, I thought car drivers and cell phones were bad but I am noticing
a really big problem of big rig drivers with phones stuck to their heads
while they are speeding down the fwy. Almost got taken out by one
yesterday. As the song say 'shut up and drive'.
First thing the insurance co. asks when someone hits your car is was
the driver on his cell phone.
Taria

Sandy Ellison wrote:

Howdy!
I have a mobile phone. It's one of the best security devises available.
When someone ran his car into my first PT Cruiser, my mobile phone was
very handy. When I'm out driving around and get lost, my phone finds our way
back home. g It's not the phone I bitch about, it's the users! LOL
I don't drive with it in my hand, don't talk on it when driving (notice that
even those who think they can drive while talking on the in-car phone or
the headset are not really paying attention and endanger the rest of us
trying to use the road). My phone is there for my convenience, to make
calls when I need/want to; leaving quilt shop, call Applebee's to order
a Santa Fe chicken salad to be picked up on the way home.
I don't care about hearing other people's conversations (they're really not
as interesting as they think g), don't want customers or clerks using them
instead of taking care of business, don't want to hear background life when
s-i-l calls me on her mobile phone while she's driving home from work,
stopping for gasoline, buying liquor. Really, what a world full of
egomaniacs who think they're personal business is interesting to the
general public. What did these people do before they had their hands
permanently wrapped around a telephone?
Of course, if someone wants to call me to tell me how to get to the
quilt shop (Hi, Janet!), I'm willing to pull over to talk on the phone. ;-D

Ragmop/Sandy-- Hang up! It's an automobile, not a phone booth on wheels!


On 3/28/06 2:42 PM, in article ,
"Jessamy" wrote:


*exactly* ---J's reply about annoying, rude phone users