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Old May 19th 05, 05:26 PM
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Why don't you contact the teacher and offer to volunteer your services. I
bet she would be so grateful.

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DD#3 is in her term of home ec at school and they have come up on what
passes for a sewing module.
She has been partnered with a girl who does not speak any english yet.
They are getting by so far useing pantomime and what few words each
has in the other's language.
It would be amazingly helpful though if they had a manual for their
sewing machine in spanish. It seems the teacher's instructions
haven't been much use even if you understand english, and she and her
classmates have been relying heavily on the manuals to learn how to
perform such arduous tasks as threading the things. DD was a bit
ahead of the game since she has used my machines, but beyond basic
threading and general function the resemblance is slim.

So, does anyone know where to find a manual in spanish for a Singer
9410? I've been to the singer site and they only have them in
english.

I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.

NightMist
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Old May 19th 05, 06:43 PM
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I don't know where this teacher has been, or for how long,
but precious little fabric is actually 45 inches wide. Most of it hovers
around 43 inches these days. Just like our Hershey's bars, fabric width
is shrinking, too.

I'll chime in about my home ec experience. I actually had a decent
teacher. Cooking was so-so, mainly because we only had a 45
minute class. We were required to eat what we cooked and most of
our stuff was still a bit raw.

Sewing was ok, too. My mom had taught me the basics long before.
The thing I resented the most was using the bleep wax tracing paper
and stupid wheel to mark darts and such. My mom always just used a
pencil to mark the critical points and eye-balled the rest.

However, I will always be grateful to my teacher for teaching me how to
make my own facing pattern. I lost one of the armhole facings pieces and
she showed me how to use the main pattern piece to draft a new one. I have
used that skill to alter necklines and other such.

It is too bad that so many have had bad experiences. I think every kid
needs
a class that covers basic life skills like filling out a job applications,
reading a
recipe and cooking basic foods, changing a flat tire, fixing the toilet so
that it
doesn't "run," hanging a picture so that it won't come crashing down, etc.

Good luck to DD#3!

Happy stitching,
Janet of Gar

"NightMist" wrote in message
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DD#3 is in her term of home ec at school and they have come up on what
passes for a sewing module.
She has been partnered with a girl who does not speak any english yet.
They are getting by so far useing pantomime and what few words each
has in the other's language.
It would be amazingly helpful though if they had a manual for their
sewing machine in spanish. It seems the teacher's instructions
haven't been much use even if you understand english, and she and her
classmates have been relying heavily on the manuals to learn how to
perform such arduous tasks as threading the things. DD was a bit
ahead of the game since she has used my machines, but beyond basic
threading and general function the resemblance is slim.

So, does anyone know where to find a manual in spanish for a Singer
9410? I've been to the singer site and they only have them in
english.

I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.

NightMist
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it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole



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Old May 19th 05, 06:50 PM
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Actually I have offered to volunteer in my specialties at the school.
I am thinking hard about volunteering to Ash's special ed class too.
I don't know if anything new will come of volunteering to Ash's class,
but I was rather condescendingly informed that I can't volunteer in a
home ec class because of insurance concerns, and that they don't need
any volunteers in art. Now this is not what the teachers or the
principals told me. Alas I fear I am a wee tad too contraversial for
the school to wish to have me there on a regular basis.

NightMist


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Why don't you contact the teacher and offer to volunteer your services. I
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"NightMist" wrote in message
...

DD#3 is in her term of home ec at school and they have come up on what
passes for a sewing module.
She has been partnered with a girl who does not speak any english yet.
They are getting by so far useing pantomime and what few words each
has in the other's language.
It would be amazingly helpful though if they had a manual for their
sewing machine in spanish. It seems the teacher's instructions
haven't been much use even if you understand english, and she and her
classmates have been relying heavily on the manuals to learn how to
perform such arduous tasks as threading the things. DD was a bit
ahead of the game since she has used my machines, but beyond basic
threading and general function the resemblance is slim.

So, does anyone know where to find a manual in spanish for a Singer
9410? I've been to the singer site and they only have them in
english.

I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.

NightMist
--
"To repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge
it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole




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Old May 19th 05, 07:11 PM
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:40:20 +0100, Kate Dicey
wrote:

NightMist wrote:

I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.


Please PLEASE let me boggle... BBOOGGGGGLLEE!!!! But but but...
44"/45" - where's the difference? ALL the 44/45 inch fabric I see for
sale has 'approx' written on the ticket! NOTHING is EXACTLY 45" wide,
except by cheer chance! Does this silly woman have so little experience
she does not know this? Let's face it, anything labelled 45" is going
to waver somewhere between 44" and 46" down the 50+m length it's woven in!


She said that it was 42 not 44 and that that was too far off.
The thing that blew my mind was the thought of her sitting down and
measureing all the yardage that came in for the class!
I have a couple of yards of 48" muslin that I will dye to DD's
preference and send in. If it comes out to wide after shrink, well we
can just whip out the handy dandy rotary cutter and trim the darn
selvedge edges off!

As for the thread... Well, words fail! Has she never heard of like
with like? Cotton thread for cotton fabric, poly for artificial fibres,
and poly mixes, silk for silk and cotton or silk for wool? And I've
never heard of Metrosene doing that, except with a damaged needle.
Maybe she doesn't know that needles need to be changed? Dearie me, what
DO they teach them these day... Kate goes off shaking head and muttering


She says that cotton will fuzz and jam the machine.
Bless her heart, she must be thinking that those heavy duty industrial
models they are working with are delicate. She must be a fragile
flower indeed! If she sends back my muslin saying that it will fuzz
and jam the machine, I am getting out the agent orange.

And yes, this is WAAAAY too much fuss for boxer shorts. Erm... Who is
supposed to WEAR the boxers? Or are they for display only? Giggle


Girls wear boxer shorts.
I must confess, this is one bit of unisex fashion that I have a rough
time wrapping my brain around. I mean, I don't understand why _men_
wear them. They seem to be so loose that they would get all bunchy
and wadded and be dreadfully uncomfy. Now as summer jammy bottoms
they make all kinds of sense, but as underthings? *boggle*
I'm figureing that once she has sorted out the boxers in school, I
will show her how to modify them and let her make some shorts for
summer. She has some sewing experience, she made stuffed animals for
Christmas (I am still boxing her ears regularly to get her to send
thank you notes for gifted fur), and has made doll sized quilts. She
also has a crazy quilt she has been working on for years now.

Good on your DD for taking on this project, and good on you both for
trying to find a manual the other lass can understand. Manuals in the
UK often come with French, German, Spanish and/or other languages in
them besides English.


Modern manuals here often come with a wide range of languages too.
I expect that these machines are either several years old, or ordered
en masse with a language preference specified. Maybe both.

I have suggested to DD that she take the most important bits of the
manual, bobbin winding, foot changeing etc. to the spanish teacher to
see if they can get any help there. Maybe with a bit of conversation
and note taking they can muddle through. DD is supposed to be
learning spanish anyway. (G)
Gonna see if I can find the whole thing translated anyway. Good
learning for both of them in the long run.

NightMist

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Old May 19th 05, 07:34 PM
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:32 GMT, "Polly Esther"
wrote:

The home ec teacher burden carries forward from generation to generation.
Mine demanded that we learn how to mend runs in our nylon stockings. Really.
With a needle and brown thread.


My home ec teaher seemed almost disappointed that I already knew how
to darn knits. Our sewing projects weren't too bad though. A tote
bag and a skirt. She seemed more concerned with making all of us cut
off our nails, swear to wear no nail polish darker than pink, and
showing horrible movies about the bad things that would happen to you
if you ever had sex, or if you "mixed" with persons of other races.
Made me wonder if lightening was going to strike me right there in
class.
Hey Teresa! Did you ever have Mrs P for home ec?

When DS's shop class was swapped over to a home ec class for a six weeks
stint, they were all instructed to make white satin ring bearer pillows.
Imagine that.
The grandson's class was to learn to make biscuits. Biscuit making takes
decades of practice and is a fine art. It would have been so much better if
she had taught them how to approach a load of laundry.


I reckon your DGS does better with what he learned to bake than he
would with a box of Jiffy Mix.
Our school didn't do laundry in class till high school. The washer
and dryer were both in the high school home ec room.
We did make biscuits though. She taught us how to make our own mix.
Mix flour with some baking powder and a smidge of salt and put it in
jars in the pantry. That and chocolate chip cookies were all that we
cooked. When we got the new teacher in my last year of home ec we did
no sewing, but a lot of embroidery, and made pizza and sugar cookies.
We did get lots of instruction on the proper ways to do a fair many
general housekeeping tasks.

I still fold my towels by the home ec teacher's demand. Lengthwise in
thirds, then in half and half again.


You know it just occured to me, so do I

NightMist


"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
...
PS:

Threading diagram:


http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diag..._threading.htm

This place may be able to do one for you:

http://www.sewconsult.com/id24.htm

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!




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Old May 19th 05, 10:28 PM
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I took Home Ec in Jr high and one year in High School, then majored in
it in college (after 2 years as a Biology/Psychology double major).
I also taught it (half time) for over 6 years to 7th/8th graders in a
k-8 school.

Lots of stories on both sides. G

Sewing projects in jr. high that I made were a table cloth and matching
napkins made of kettlecloth. Fringed on the edges. A real pain.
And we all had to make these atrocious mu-mu things. They were supposed
to have a casing at the top for a drawstring to go through to tie on the
shoulders. I insisted on gathering mine and stitching it to a band
that extended into ties. And we *had* to wear them to school at least
once.
They were ugly......... and oh, so flattering. NOT.

I took over a class in mid term and the project was to make t-shirts.
Continued with that a couple of times, but didn't always get good
response.
So I went with pillows or tote bags from a company out of CA called "To
Sew". Since I only had 10 machines for 20 or more students I needed
something that the others could do anyway. The pillows are "character"
pillows, with felt used as the details. So the kids learned basic
embroidery and hand stitching for the felt details. And used the
machines to sew the pillows together.
These were actually fairly popular. G

Don't remember a lot about the foods unit in my jr high days, but in
high school we did a lot of different things. Including creme brulee,
spaghetti and lots more.
Teaching it was a different story.... I used cooking as 1. a "reward",
and 2. a multi part lesson on entertaining and meal planning.
Kids as a class decided on a menu, which had to be at least somewhat
nutritionally balanced. They would prep the foods and pre-prepare what
could be done. They invited their teachers and the principal, etc. We
scheduled the actual meal at lunch time, and made arrangements for them
to be out of class both before and after the meal to finish the prep and
clean up. (thus the asking of the teachers as a thank you).
The kids had to "greet" their "guests" make sure they had something to
drink, and make conversation with them. In other words be hosts.
Whenever we did this it was a great success with everybody. The kids
found out they could actually talk with teachers and the teachers
enjoyed it too.
Some of the kids even discovered they liked clean up and washing dishes!

I also covered things like child care, laundry, budgeting and banking
and all sorts of stuff in my classes. Some of the kids did learn
something.

Pati, in Phx

NightMist wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:32 GMT, "Polly Esther"
wrote:


The home ec teacher burden carries forward from generation to generation.
Mine demanded that we learn how to mend runs in our nylon stockings. Really.
With a needle and brown thread.



My home ec teaher seemed almost disappointed that I already knew how
to darn knits. Our sewing projects weren't too bad though. A tote
bag and a skirt. She seemed more concerned with making all of us cut
off our nails, swear to wear no nail polish darker than pink, and
showing horrible movies about the bad things that would happen to you
if you ever had sex, or if you "mixed" with persons of other races.
Made me wonder if lightening was going to strike me right there in
class.
Hey Teresa! Did you ever have Mrs P for home ec?


When DS's shop class was swapped over to a home ec class for a six weeks
stint, they were all instructed to make white satin ring bearer pillows.
Imagine that.
The grandson's class was to learn to make biscuits. Biscuit making takes
decades of practice and is a fine art. It would have been so much better if
she had taught them how to approach a load of laundry.



I reckon your DGS does better with what he learned to bake than he
would with a box of Jiffy Mix.
Our school didn't do laundry in class till high school. The washer
and dryer were both in the high school home ec room.
We did make biscuits though. She taught us how to make our own mix.
Mix flour with some baking powder and a smidge of salt and put it in
jars in the pantry. That and chocolate chip cookies were all that we
cooked. When we got the new teacher in my last year of home ec we did
no sewing, but a lot of embroidery, and made pizza and sugar cookies.
We did get lots of instruction on the proper ways to do a fair many
general housekeeping tasks.


I still fold my towels by the home ec teacher's demand. Lengthwise in
thirds, then in half and half again.



You know it just occured to me, so do I

NightMist


"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
...

PS:

Threading diagram:



http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diag..._threading.htm

This place may be able to do one for you:

http://www.sewconsult.com/id24.htm

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!




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Old May 19th 05, 10:38 PM
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Mrs. P should be brought up on charges of discrimination. I really wonder
where some of he teachers of yesteryear got their education. She was
teaching personal values and not Home Ec. Good Lord, preserve us from
bigots like that.

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"NightMist" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:32 GMT, "Polly Esther"
wrote:

The home ec teacher burden carries forward from generation to generation.
Mine demanded that we learn how to mend runs in our nylon stockings.
Really.
With a needle and brown thread.


My home ec teaher seemed almost disappointed that I already knew how
to darn knits. Our sewing projects weren't too bad though. A tote
bag and a skirt. She seemed more concerned with making all of us cut
off our nails, swear to wear no nail polish darker than pink, and
showing horrible movies about the bad things that would happen to you
if you ever had sex, or if you "mixed" with persons of other races.
Made me wonder if lightening was going to strike me right there in
class.
Hey Teresa! Did you ever have Mrs P for home ec?

When DS's shop class was swapped over to a home ec class for a six
weeks
stint, they were all instructed to make white satin ring bearer pillows.
Imagine that.
The grandson's class was to learn to make biscuits. Biscuit making
takes
decades of practice and is a fine art. It would have been so much better
if
she had taught them how to approach a load of laundry.


I reckon your DGS does better with what he learned to bake than he
would with a box of Jiffy Mix.
Our school didn't do laundry in class till high school. The washer
and dryer were both in the high school home ec room.
We did make biscuits though. She taught us how to make our own mix.
Mix flour with some baking powder and a smidge of salt and put it in
jars in the pantry. That and chocolate chip cookies were all that we
cooked. When we got the new teacher in my last year of home ec we did
no sewing, but a lot of embroidery, and made pizza and sugar cookies.
We did get lots of instruction on the proper ways to do a fair many
general housekeeping tasks.

I still fold my towels by the home ec teacher's demand. Lengthwise in
thirds, then in half and half again.


You know it just occured to me, so do I

NightMist


"Kate Dicey" wrote in message
...
PS:

Threading diagram:


http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diag..._threading.htm

This place may be able to do one for you:

http://www.sewconsult.com/id24.htm

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
Click on Kate's Pages and explore!




--
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it, requires brains." -Mary Pettibone Poole



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Old May 19th 05, 11:23 PM
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Ha! I was wondering when someone would mention mu-mu's. Our (twin and
I) mother taught us to sew from an early age, so this was very useful
in what was called Art & Craft. I recall making the dress at home and
then standing on the desk at school whilst the hem was measured.
Sewing I enjoyed; embroidery and knitting I did not. I think this was
because twin and I are left-handed and instruction rarely covered
'mirror' images LOL. With knitting we had to do it right handed so
tension was always a problem as the right paw never was steady enough
to hold the thread - sorry - wool, tight. Art we excelled at,
(Mother painted too). Our junior art teacher (getting right off topic
here) was a man in a million. He had us doing kiln fired pottery in
interesting egyptian designs, fired and glazed copper jewellery, lino
cuts etc. When we got to start expensive private school education at
age 12, art was almost back to stick figure drawings! We quickly
decided to keep up the creative activities at home and stopped art
classes as soon as it was elective!!
My twin is an art teacher today and does the most amazing work with her
charges - the school and parents have been totally blown away with her
zeal. Last month she was promoted to Junior Art Supervisor - of one
(herself!) How cool is that? My chest is fluffed out with pride.
Enough ramblings,
Bronnie
Oz
p.s. we schooled in the '60's.

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Old May 20th 05, 12:05 AM
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If you are ever in need of a job, I'm sure you'd fit in just fine at our
local hospital. Bouncing chocolate pudding is one of their hottest items on
the menu. Polly

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oups.com...
Goodness sakes!!! All these horrid memories of home eck teachers rising
to the surface. I had been sewing my own clothes (and Barbie
clothes.....which are just plain HARD) for several years by the time I
hit middle school home ec. I remember her screeching at me about pins
not properly lined up, stitch length, darts, blah blah blah and that
almost ended my love of sewing. We later cooked such useful things as
Baked Alaska and chocolate pudding from scratch (mine could bounce). I
had to stumble my own way through learning realistic household chores
later on in life.



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Old May 20th 05, 03:49 AM
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Nowadays she would be, but this was thirty years ago. I think she
retired after the school year ended in 1974. I know she had been with
the school for more than 30 years.
The films she showed were not her personal property but belonged to
the school or were gotten via interschool loan (BOCES for you NY
people). My class was probably one of the last to see them. Good
thing too! Some of them were just horrid, kind of like Reefer Madness
meets Birth of a Nation with a healthy dose of anti-semitism and
general xenophobia tossed in. Very icky. Then of course there was the
tragic tale of poor Sally. She ran with a fast crowd, got drunk,
stayed out all night, and her life was over. She now had a reputaion
as a loose woman and was doomed to live alone and wait tables for the
rest of her life. Made me very happy I was not living in what
appeared to be the early 40's (judging by the hairstyles and the
fashions).

NightMist
admiring her long black nails and thinking of prim Mrs. P with a smirk

On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:38:18 -0500, "SNIGDIBBLY"
wrote:

Mrs. P should be brought up on charges of discrimination. I really wonder
where some of he teachers of yesteryear got their education. She was
teaching personal values and not Home Ec. Good Lord, preserve us from
bigots like that.

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"NightMist" wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:32 GMT, "Polly Esther"
wrote:

The home ec teacher burden carries forward from generation to generation.
Mine demanded that we learn how to mend runs in our nylon stockings.
Really.
With a needle and brown thread.


My home ec teaher seemed almost disappointed that I already knew how
to darn knits. Our sewing projects weren't too bad though. A tote
bag and a skirt. She seemed more concerned with making all of us cut
off our nails, swear to wear no nail polish darker than pink, and
showing horrible movies about the bad things that would happen to you
if you ever had sex, or if you "mixed" with persons of other races.
Made me wonder if lightening was going to strike me right there in
class.
Hey Teresa! Did you ever have Mrs P for home ec?

When DS's shop class was swapped over to a home ec class for a six
weeks
stint, they were all instructed to make white satin ring bearer pillows.
Imagine that.
The grandson's class was to learn to make biscuits. Biscuit making
takes
decades of practice and is a fine art. It would have been so much better
if
she had taught them how to approach a load of laundry.


I reckon your DGS does better with what he learned to bake than he
would with a box of Jiffy Mix.
Our school didn't do laundry in class till high school. The washer
and dryer were both in the high school home ec room.
We did make biscuits though. She taught us how to make our own mix.
Mix flour with some baking powder and a smidge of salt and put it in
jars in the pantry. That and chocolate chip cookies were all that we
cooked. When we got the new teacher in my last year of home ec we did
no sewing, but a lot of embroidery, and made pizza and sugar cookies.
We did get lots of instruction on the proper ways to do a fair many
general housekeeping tasks.

I still fold my towels by the home ec teacher's demand. Lengthwise in
thirds, then in half and half again.


You know it just occured to me, so do I

NightMist


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PS:

Threading diagram:


http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diag..._threading.htm

This place may be able to do one for you:

http://www.sewconsult.com/id24.htm

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